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Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 10:37 am
by skitter30
In post 161, Kerset wrote:I voted you because I wanted to trigger you.
You have been extremely insecure so far. It seems that you can even make scumreads, when your comfort zone is challenged.
i voted kerset for this ^

tone's pretty bad, and the vote is like a cross between a reaction test and scumreading you
i don't know what it means that bob's been 'extremely insecure' so far, or where kerset is seeing that, or why it warrants a vote

and many people have not really given scumreads so far, so i don't know why kerset is pushing bob in particular

it's just ... weird and bad

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 10:37 am
by bob3141
In post 174, skitter30 wrote:
In post 156, bob3141 wrote:I think a scum you means there is reasonable chance that one of rb, profii and gobble are scum.
why do you think this?

Its read on situation. I used the word reasonable over likely for a reason. Why i scum read nona for that blantant sheeping. Over a point that prety much says 50/50 that one in 3 is scum if x is scum.

Never is that justification for an actual vote. as based on things so far tahts 1/6 chance that player is scum if x is scum. Whenx alignment hasnt been determined yet.

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 10:39 am
by bob3141
now if kerset is scum why woudl nora choose. unless either kerset isnt scum or is scum and rather than voting the scum buddy. Votes the one of the 3 names in list that inst scum.


which makes me think if nona is scum that gooble is town

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 10:39 am
by skitter30
my point is where did you get the group of {rb, profii, and gobble} from, and what they have to do with kerst

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 10:41 am
by skitter30
In post 177, bob3141 wrote:now if kerset is scum why woudl nora choose. unless either kerset isnt scum or is scum and rather than voting the scum buddy. Votes the one of the 3 names in list that inst scum.


which makes me think if nona is scum that gooble is town
i have no idea what you're trying to say here

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 10:42 am
by bob3141
all were wagons that could have been pushed further or to the same level as mine. Just a general poe vca read.

why i used word reasonable rather than likely. As its not strong read but is a read.

If kerset is scum i was wondering why he would push one of the others further rather than. having serveral weak wagons

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 10:44 am
by bob3141
In post 179, skitter30 wrote:
In post 177, bob3141 wrote:now if kerset is scum why woudl nora choose. unless either kerset isnt scum or is scum and rather than voting the scum buddy. Votes the one of the 3 names in list that inst scum.


which makes me think if nona is scum that gooble is town
i have no idea what you're trying to say here
yep my town reasoning can get a times quite convoluted. Especially when there fresh thoughts.

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 10:44 am
by skitter30
Ok bob is probably town

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 10:51 am
by Kerset
Bob was overreacting even over rvs. Is normal?

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 10:56 am
by bob3141
In post 183, Kerset wrote:Bob was overreacting even over rvs. Is normal?

i only count the first vote as rvs. with any other votes needing jokey subtext.

I count vote like that to be serous. And thus the potentiel to move us out of rvs. Even if it bbmola was still in rvs although others have already left it.

bbmola either gives justification to the vote or says its was just another rvs.

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 11:05 am
by popsofctown
VOTE: bob3141

68 reads like bob knows that BBMolla is town

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 11:16 am
by popsofctown
@mod: Could you deliver on the thread title more often? It'd actually help me tell my games apart more

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 11:30 am
by bob3141
In post 185, popsofctown wrote:VOTE: bob3141

68 reads like bob knows that BBMolla is town

And how do you coem to that conclusion. Very easy to say something yet can you justify it.

What about makes you think i know bbmola alignment

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 12:17 pm
by skitter30
In post 183, Kerset wrote:Bob was overreacting even over rvs. Is normal?
Looks kinda typical go me, why do you think it's an overreaction?

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 12:18 pm
by skitter30
In post 185, popsofctown wrote:VOTE: bob3141

68 reads like bob knows that BBMolla is town
Um where are you seeing this?

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:09 pm
by popsofctown
In post 188, skitter30 wrote:
In post 183, Kerset wrote:Bob was overreacting even over rvs. Is normal?
Looks kinda typical go me, why do you think it's an overreaction?
Because have you seen BBMolla's iso? And if so is it because you were blinking?

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:09 pm
by popsofctown
*if not

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:17 pm
by bob3141
In post 190, popsofctown wrote:
In post 188, skitter30 wrote:
In post 183, Kerset wrote:Bob was overreacting even over rvs. Is normal?
Looks kinda typical go me, why do you think it's an overreaction?
Because have you seen BBMolla's iso? And if so is it because you were blinking?

why do you think a lack of any posts is areason to just ignor blank votes. Thats how you get players with minimal interactions. whether town or scum if you let them lurk they will keep lurking.

And how do you think its overreaction to first ask if there is reasoning behind the vote or ask what they mean by locked.

As i said locked implies a degree of permanency and certainty. Based on his posts around there and infact looking at his iso after. There is nothing in his lack of posts that could be determined to be perdiant in relation to me.

An entirely blank vote would actual look better than what he did posts. which was blank vote with implied seriousness. Hence the question about what is behind his vote

Your vote on me is just looking opportunistic

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:22 pm
by skitter30
In post 189, skitter30 wrote:
In post 185, popsofctown wrote:VOTE: bob3141

68 reads like bob knows that BBMolla is town
Um where are you seeing this?

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:22 pm
by popsofctown
You didn't look like you were sorting BBMolla at all. You were trumpeting about how correct or incorrect it is to "lock" a vote, which doesn't lead to understanding why they did that and sorting them. You look more interested in vindication than ascertaining who is scum or town.

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:23 pm
by popsofctown
193 was a ninja but 194 should incidentally provide an answer.

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:27 pm
by profii
I actually agree with Bob in principle- if you leave lurkers to lurk, they lurk to detriment of the overall game

I will say this - its unusual for any game to be in a situation where lurker votes and then the votee pursues the lurk issue so vigouresly.

From an outsider (ie any other player in the game) it may seem like a policy lynch to support the pressure on the lurker (BBMolla) but actually, the quality of the game in the long run maybe helped


Then just to caveat and complicate the entire thing - we've just hit midnight in my time zone, so merry Christmas everyone- which also does mean we should perhaps offer some leniency to lurkers for a couple of days at least

But I will say I do want to hear more from BBMolla

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:29 pm
by gobbledygook
VOTE: BBmolla

Pops town read increasing
Bob town read appears
Profii town read appears

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:32 pm
by profii
I mixed up games and thought I was voting somewhere but I'm on RVS

VOTE: bbmolla

Appreciate its holiday time but let's hear more about that locked vote on Bob

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:50 pm
by skitter30
In post 194, popsofctown wrote:You didn't look like you were sorting BBMolla at all. You were trumpeting about how correct or incorrect it is to "lock" a vote, which doesn't lead to understanding why they did that and sorting them. You look more interested in vindication than ascertaining who is scum or town.
i don't understand how this shows that looks like bob knows that bbmolla is town