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Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:00 am
by Datisi
Official Vote Count 1.05
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With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

Lynching
Jake the Wolfie
(3): Hectic, emps, GuiltyLion
Amrun
(1): Jake The Wolfie
Hectic
(1): ObviousScum
ObviousScum
(1): Amrun
GuiltyLion
(1): Non lmh
Non lmh
(1): Iconeum

Not Voting
(1): GeorgeBailey

Deadline:
(expired on 2020-01-28 01:30:00).

Mod notes:
  • Iconeum standing V/LA weekends.
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Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:00 am
by GuiltyLion
more specifically I'm thinking there's probably at least one scum in the {Jake/George/Obvious Scum/Non Imh} bloc that I don't feel has seriously tried to solve or towntell at all yet, but I don't have things that stand out that I want to ask them about

and then either of Amrun/Hectic I'm not townreading yet because they strike me as competent players who could have faked their level of play so far, but I don't think either is scummy either

so I'm kinda at a loss. Hectic - do you think Jake refusing to give thoughts on these things moves the needle on his alignment?

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:09 am
by Jake The Wolfie
In post 176, GuiltyLion wrote:more specifically I'm thinking there's probably at least one scum in the {Jake/George/Obvious Scum/Non Imh} bloc that I don't feel has seriously tried to solve or towntell at all yet, but I don't have things that stand out that I want to ask them about

and then either of Amrun/Hectic I'm not townreading yet because they strike me as competent players who could have faked their level of play so far, but I don't think either is scummy either

so I'm kinda at a loss. Hectic - do you think Jake refusing to give thoughts on these things moves the needle on his alignment?
I would love to give my thoughts, when I have them.

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:51 am
by GeorgeBailey
In post 176, GuiltyLion wrote:more specifically I'm thinking there's probably at least one scum in the {Jake/George/Obvious Scum/Non Imh} bloc that I don't feel has seriously tried to solve or towntell at all yet, but I don't have things that stand out that I want to ask them about
I think the most interesting thing recently, was the jake wagon. Do you think there was scum on it? I personally unvoted because I feel like it's way too unsafe to leave someone like that, when scum could just lolhammer. Even SAYING "lolhammers are scumtells" doesn't mean that person will get lynched the day. The L-1 was accidental, but his reaction was very interesting. I can't tell if Scum or Town would react like that.
In post 168, Hectic wrote:Am running from Amrun because she seems kind scary
Pat
hectic

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:06 pm
by GuiltyLion
In post 178, GeorgeBailey wrote:I think the most interesting thing recently, was the jake wagon. Do you think there was scum on it?
I mean that's kind of the main thing that's happened IMO. You have side conversation between Amrun/ObvScum but wagons speak to me much louder than posts.

I'm kinda suspicious of your question here because:

a) we don't have a resolution of the Jake wagon and I'm not especially townreading Jake, so it's hard for me to make any kind of statement about likelihood of scum on it when I'm not all that sure about his alignment to begin with

b) I already gave some reads? I expressed ambivalence about my current vote, stated a townread on emps, said that Hectic's play isn't outside of scumrange, and said your slot hasn't done anything to try to look town. So to me this feels like enough information to take some guesses about how I might feel about the wagon - I wish you were asking about more specifics here, instead of a vague boilerplate conversation starter.
In post 178, GeorgeBailey wrote:I personally unvoted because I feel like it's way too unsafe to leave someone like that, when scum could just lolhammer. Even SAYING "lolhammers are scumtells" doesn't mean that person will get lynched the day. The L-1 was accidental, but his reaction was very interesting. I can't tell if Scum or Town would react like that.
I think concern about a quickhammer is overblown. a wagon at L-1 is a game state that is more likely to generate information and much more uncomfortable for scum than a defused L-2 wagon, whether they are being wagoned, on the wagon, or off the wagon.

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:07 pm
by Non lmh
In post 158, emps wrote:
In post 157, Non lmh wrote:outright claiming
outright claiming as in claiming targets or roleclaiming?
In post 169, Hectic wrote:
In post 157, Non lmh wrote:will start playing tomorrow

outright claiming feels wrong for me but the setup is confusing me rn,, need more time
Do you mean outright claiming what kind of doctor you could be on D1?
targets

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:10 pm
by Non lmh
@Lion, I'm more interested in the setup rn

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:20 pm
by emps
on mobile again gonna post on pc later

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:21 pm
by emps
In post 178, GeorgeBailey wrote:
In post 168, Hectic wrote:Am running from Amrun because she seems kind scary
Pat
hectic
did you even try on this one? this puns pat
hectic

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:23 pm
by emps
In post 168, Hectic wrote:Am running from Amrun because she seems kind scary - if I vote her, she'll probably rally 5 votes to quicklynch me in no time.
yeah, if you mess with amrun things could get hectic.

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:25 pm
by emps
help me im running out of hectic puns

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:35 pm
by emps
In post 167, Hectic wrote:
In post 142, emps wrote:
In post 114, GeorgeBailey wrote:VOTE: JakeThewolfie

I'm not liking your reaction to the wagon right now.

I hope my voting isn't too...
HECTIC


Spoiler:
ok ok i'll stop now
dont stop we must keep making the hectic puns
I'm gonna EMP your PC if you keep this up.
things are gonna get hectic if u go that far

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:35 pm
by emps
idk couldnt think of a good pun

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:38 pm
by emps
anyone know if this sort of play is normal for jake?

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:40 pm
by ObviousScum
In post 181, Non lmh wrote:@Lion, I'm more interested in the setup rn
y tho?

whenever I try to think about this setup my head hurts a little bit

do you have any reads?

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:08 pm
by Hectic
In post 178, GeorgeBailey wrote:
In post 176, GuiltyLion wrote:more specifically I'm thinking there's probably at least one scum in the {Jake/George/Obvious Scum/Non Imh} bloc that I don't feel has seriously tried to solve or towntell at all yet, but I don't have things that stand out that I want to ask them about
I think the most interesting thing recently, was the jake wagon. Do you think there was scum on it? I personally unvoted because I feel like it's way too unsafe to leave someone like that, when scum could just lolhammer. Even SAYING "lolhammers are scumtells" doesn't mean that person will get lynched the day. The L-1 was accidental, but his reaction was very interesting. I can't tell if Scum or Town would react like that.
In post 168, Hectic wrote:Am running from Amrun because she seems kind scary
Pat
hectic
In post 184, emps wrote:
In post 168, Hectic wrote:Am running from Amrun because she seems kind scary - if I vote her, she'll probably rally 5 votes to quicklynch me in no time.
yeah, if you mess with amrun things could get hectic.
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Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:11 pm
by Hectic
In post 176, GuiltyLion wrote:Hectic - do you think Jake refusing to give thoughts on these things moves the needle on his alignment?
I did meta-check him yesterday, and yeah, his play here does strike me as weird. Look here: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11412103
There's a lot of early pushing for reads, and open thoughts/solving.

But him continuing to give no thoughts in his last couple of posts after knowing I've caught onto that is interesting - not sure yet if he's just taking a different approach this game or is doubling down as scum.

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:15 pm
by Hectic
To forge daily is insanity, but not putting your vote on anyone if you're afraid of Jake being on L-1? Now that kinda behaviour is straight up George Bailey. Explain yourself, good sir.

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:24 pm
by Jake The Wolfie
In post 191, Hectic wrote:
In post 176, GuiltyLion wrote:Hectic - do you think Jake refusing to give thoughts on these things moves the needle on his alignment?
I did meta-check him yesterday, and yeah, his play here does strike me as weird. Look here: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11412103
There's a lot of early pushing for reads, and open thoughts/solving.

But him continuing to give no thoughts in his last couple of posts after knowing I've caught onto that is interesting - not sure yet if he's just taking a different approach this game or is doubling down as scum.
How certain are you that if I were to die right now, I would flip scum?

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:45 pm
by Hectic
I think you have the best odds of anyone here right now, but that isn't very high at this stage. Like 45% if you want an arbitrary percentage? Why do you ask?

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:54 pm
by Jake The Wolfie
In post 194, Hectic wrote:I think you have the best odds of anyone here right now, but that isn't very high at this stage. Like 45% if you want an arbitrary percentage? Why do you ask?
Do you think that I would get to L-1 without anyone mentioning it?

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:59 pm
by Hectic
Are you suggesting your scum buddy would mention scum!you was on L-1? Gion was the only one to post in the short space of time between George's vote and you pointing it out.

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:07 pm
by Jake The Wolfie
In post 196, Hectic wrote:Are you suggesting your scum buddy would mention scum!you was on L-1? Gion was the only one to post in the short space of time between George's vote and you pointing it out.
Why would I suggest something that literally incriminates me? Unless your goal is to throw shade.

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:15 pm
by Hectic
It's hypothetical, I was assuming you were using it as a "I'm not scum because it'd be harder for me to get to L-1 unannounced as scum, since I have my buddy looking out for me."

What are you suggesting then?

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:18 pm
by emps
woops i mightve forgotten to go onto pc once i got home

but im here now