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[Karnage]

VOTE: Titus

why?

Cheeky's been voting me since RVS and had a pretty static read there. He's the "bad cop". He accuses me of being evil, no matter what. You meanwhile are saying that everything I do is ok, making you the "good cop".

is this the extent of you theory?

[Titus]

VOTE: Titus

why?

Cheeky's been voting me since RVS and had a pretty static read there. He's the "bad cop". He accuses me of being evil, no matter what. You meanwhile are saying that everything I do is ok, making you the "good cop".

is this the extent of you theory?

Right now, yes.

[Karnage]

Right now, yes.

VOTE: Karnage

Theory, Karnage Cheeky scumteam

can you show examples of "good cop"/"bad cop" from before 94?

[Titus]

Right now, yes.

VOTE: Karnage

Theory, Karnage Cheeky scumteam

can you show examples of "good cop"/"bad cop" from before 94?

Sure, although I'm phoning in post numbers on Cheeky. Cheeky immediately votes me for breaking RVS. Breaking RVS is usually a good thing. So why would experienced town vote me for that? Cheeky has had that hostile attitude since go. Hence, Cheeky bad cop.

Your 64 is good cop. You're supposing I'm town and have players sucking up to me. This can interfere with natural town blocks. You starting from the supposition that I'm town and working outwards is good cop. You shouldn't know, at this point, that I am town.

[Karnage]

Your 64 is good cop. You're supposing I'm town and have players sucking up to me. This can interfere with natural town blocks. You starting from the supposition that I'm town and working outwards is good cop. You shouldn't know, at this point, that I am town.

Do you believe that post 64 is too early in the game to develop a town lean/read on somebody?

[Titus]

Your 64 is good cop. You're supposing I'm town and have players sucking up to me. This can interfere with natural town blocks. You starting from the supposition that I'm town and working outwards is good cop. You shouldn't know, at this point, that I am town.

Do you believe that post 64 is too early in the game to develop a town lean/read on somebody?

No. I don't. I do think it's too early for the strength you displayed. The general concept though, no.

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: Titus

why?

Cheeky's been voting me since RVS and had a pretty static read there. He's the "bad cop". He accuses me of being evil, no matter what. You meanwhile are saying that everything I do is ok, making you the "good cop".

Yeah that makes sense except why would we try to lynch you? If I were scum I'd be going for the noobs. This is just straight up reaching.

I've felt you were off since RVS and your reactions towards my push on you have been omgus and trying to justify said omgus. Like please, we both know you're much better than this.

[CheekyTeeky]

@Cheeky: You voting Titus automatically means that you are unvoting QQ. Why? Do you think his actions are such of a confused Townie of some sort? Or it's something else?

I found myself being a hypocrite. I accused him of policy lynching when I was scumreading him for making zero sense. I honestly have no idea what QQ is saying in his posts so pushing him isn't gleaning any further info in either direction.

From the perspective of him being scum he could be playing intentionally obtuse but I'm not sure how he intends to gain traction on his lynch with these antics.

From the perspective of town I still have no idea what he's doing.

What do you make of him?

As a side note I think Titus/TSE interactions are rather strange. I know scum SEs often hide behind the coaching charade.

[Plotinus]

Official Vote Count 1.07

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Lynching

With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

Karnage

(2): Titus, TrueSoulEnergy

Ph0enix

(1): QuantumQuasar

Titus

(1): CheekyTeeky

LunarRest

(1): Homura

QuantumQuasar

(1): Ph0enix

Homura

(1): Tapiocaphobe

Tapiocaphobe

(1): Karnage

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-03-07 22:45:00).

Mod notes:

Homura replaced Phi Kappa Phi. LunarRest is being replaced.[/area]

[CheekyTeeky]

Breaking RVS is usually a good thing.

Sure you could say you were breaking RVS but "gut" doesn't really add additional value to the initial wagon momentum on a slot. I've already said that players jumping off wagons are often more suspicious than those jumping on in RVS, particularly so in this instance because you decided to follow "gut" prior to waiting for a reaction from Tap.

Where has that read even gone?

[Ph0enix]

What do you make of him?

From the perspective of him being scum he could be playing intentionally obtuse but I'm not sure how he intends to gain traction on his lynch with these antics.

From the perspective of town I still have no idea what he's doing.

^Pretty much this, to be honest.

[Titus]

@Cheeky, I have a theory I'm looking to test. If something changes my mind on that, I'll let you know.

Second, it is early so I am open to being wrong. That doesn't mean I'm open to baseless attacks for being protown. You know based on my meta that I am stronger in later days too. You're perfectly free to ignore any theory you find baseless and scumhunt, if you're capable.

[Tapiocaphobe]

hello homura

so I reread 'cause I realized I wasn't analyzing everything as well as I could be

i'm not strongly TRing TSE for 31 anymore but I think the mafioso discussion was TvT

LR looked like they were genuinely trying to work out the titus vote-switch in their mind

karnage looks like genuine scumhunting town

QQ is wacky but prob town

phoenix has been asking a lot of questions and advancing the game which is pro-town, and I've read his QQ reactions as genuine, but idk

I think titus/cheeky is SvT (or very unlikely SvS)

I think titus has been generally more pro-town, and I'm townleaning her after rereading 55 and understanding the thought process, + cheeky has been lowkey tunneling titus all day like she's known who she's wanted to lynch since before the game began

BUT it's looking very likely at least one of my TRs is wrong, so I wouldn't be surprised if my titus TL is wrong too + I do like some of cheeky's posts

although cheeky is more likely scum here imo

so rn i'm thinking it's probably cheeky/?? (karnage?) or maybe titus/?? (tse?)

idk VOTE: cheeky

[Tapiocaphobe]

VOTE: Titus

why?

Cheeky's been voting me since RVS and had a pretty static read there. He's the "bad cop". He accuses me of being evil, no matter what. You meanwhile are saying that everything I do is ok, making you the "good cop".

Yeah that makes sense except why would we try to lynch you? If I were scum I'd be going for the noobs. This is just straight up reaching.

I've felt you were off since RVS and your reactions towards my push on you have been omgus and trying to justify said omgus. Like please, we both know you're much better than this.

I would imagine it's easier to pocket the newbtowns for lylo

[Tapiocaphobe]

oh yeah I forgot to mention

I could kinda see titus/tse if cheeky flipped town but idk

I don't really see cheeky/karnage I'm just relying on the titus read for that one

[Karnage]

No. I don't.

I do think it's too early for the strength you displayed.

The general concept though, no.

you're losing me here. the "strength" is displayed? I had a town lean on you. How was anything I said to that point stronger than your 55?

I'm ok tentatively placing you (ph0enix) as town based on the top post.

[CheekyTeeky]

@Cheeky, I have a theory I'm looking to test. If something changes my mind on that, I'll let you know.

Ok, can I have some insight into this or will that ruin it?

[CheekyTeeky]

I would imagine it's easier to pocket the newbtowns for lylo

Thank you for the lesson, so who am I pocketing for lylo?

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Proding.
Losing interest In this game.
Hopefully I can regain interest tonight so I can play properly.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Prodging*

[Homura]

Hello.

[Homura]

Saw TSE and Phoenix as town while spectating. Will reread the game more carefully tomorrow; not feeling mafia right now.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Saw TSE and Phoenix as town while spectating. Will reread the game more carefully tomorrow; not feeling mafia right now.

I feel yeah.

[CheekyTeeky]

TSE what reads do you have atm?

[CheekyTeeky]

I think titus/cheeky is SvT (or very unlikely SvS)

Can you elaborate on this? Why is SvS and TvT ruled out?