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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:54 am
by Aloratom
In post 171, HoldenGolden wrote:Aloram, outside of LL, do you have any opinions on the rest of the players?
I don't have much of an opinion on anyone yet. I generally don't get decent reads from the first few pages.

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:55 am
by humaneatingmonkey
In post 174, LuckyLuciano wrote:
In post 172, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
In post 170, LuckyLuciano wrote:You want to do something other than be wrong about me all game so I can townclear you as well? Y'know, with the whole being wrong=null thing.
you dropped my wagon and pursued inwho22. i assume you did this because you think im town. am i wrong?
Correct.
In post 170, LuckyLuciano wrote:You want to do something other than be wrong about me all game so I can townclear you as well? Y'know, with the whole being wrong=null thing.
so what's this all about?

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:56 am
by humaneatingmonkey
In post 173, InWho22 wrote:Why do you think I'm town based on talking about an unrelated game?
Holden knows my answer to this one, but I'm gonna let lucky answer that. I want to see what's on his mind.

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:58 am
by Aloratom
In post 177, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
In post 173, InWho22 wrote:Why do you think I'm town based on talking about an unrelated game?
Holden knows my answer to this one, but I'm gonna let lucky answer that. I want to see what's on his mind.
I was going to answer it too, but I'll hold off.

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:59 am
by humaneatingmonkey
I thought you didn't have opinions on the rest of the players?

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:00 am
by LuckyLuciano
In post 176, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
In post 174, LuckyLuciano wrote:
In post 172, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
In post 170, LuckyLuciano wrote:You want to do something other than be wrong about me all game so I can townclear you as well? Y'know, with the whole being wrong=null thing.
you dropped my wagon and pursued inwho22. i assume you did this because you think im town. am i wrong?
Correct.
In post 170, LuckyLuciano wrote:You want to do something other than be wrong about me all game so I can townclear you as well? Y'know, with the whole being wrong=null thing.
so what's this all about?
You are correct, in that you are wrong that I pursued InWho22 because I think you are town.

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:01 am
by humaneatingmonkey
...

this is why you're scum Lucky

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:02 am
by HoldenGolden
In post 177, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
In post 173, InWho22 wrote:Why do you think I'm town based on talking about an unrelated game?
Holden knows my answer to this one, but I'm gonna let lucky answer that. I want to see what's on his mind.
I-I know that answer?

I mean, yes! I one hundred percent know the answer! Pfffttt, who wouldn't?

(I do but assuming is bad unless when its not)

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:03 am
by LuckyLuciano
In post 173, InWho22 wrote:Why do you think I'm town based on talking about an unrelated game?
Gut. I gave you a few opportunities to slip if you were scum and none of them happened.

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:04 am
by LuckyLuciano
In post 181, humaneatingmonkey wrote:...

this is why you're scum Lucky
Is it? I thought I'm scum because my role pm says so.

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:05 am
by humaneatingmonkey
Your turn Aloratom

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:05 am
by LuckyLuciano
I feel like Monkey wants me to hard tunnel him back and is upset that I won't.

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:10 am
by Aloratom
In post 179, humaneatingmonkey wrote:I thought you didn't have opinions on the rest of the players?
Answering why I think someone may think something is different.

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:11 am
by humaneatingmonkey
Repeat the sentence, but in English

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:13 am
by Aloratom
In post 185, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Your turn Aloratom
@InWho: Your answers came across as natural and unforced. You get starter Townie points for that.

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:14 am
by Aloratom
In post 188, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Repeat the sentence, but in English
I think you can figure it out.

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:15 am
by InWho22
I see. What about you HEM?

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:15 am
by LuckyLuciano
I am going to ask this an sincerely as possible and I don't mean to offend you, Aloratom, is English your first language?

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:19 am
by HoldenGolden
I understand that post pretty well. It's missing articles is the only issue

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:20 am
by LuckyLuciano
I understood it as well, but that's not why I ask.

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:21 am
by Aloratom
In post 192, LuckyLuciano wrote:I am going to ask this an sincerely as possible and I don't mean to offend you, Aloratom, is English your first language?
Yes, it is. And I don't mind the question. I apologize if I come across as traditional in my writing, but my style, structure and word choice, for the most part, is deliberate.

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:25 am
by HoldenGolden
The oxford comma just rolled over in its grave.

Theres a portion of the game I wish would post more.

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:26 am
by Aloratom
In post 196, HoldenGolden wrote:The oxford comma just rolled over in its grave.

Theres a portion of the game I wish would post more.
And so did subject-verb agreement.

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:29 am
by HoldenGolden
In post 197, Aloratom wrote:
In post 196, HoldenGolden wrote:The oxford comma just rolled over in its grave.

Theres a portion of the game I wish would post more.
And so did subject-verb agreement.
Don't forget sentence fragmentation as well.

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:32 am
by humaneatingmonkey
@InWho22

Okay I answered this before as scum (my previous game with Holden), but this is how I figure out if someone is town vs scum: organic behavior and town motivation vs inorganic behavior and wolfy motivation.

It's all tonal. It's not a final read, but it's my best tool to use on day 1.

Organic behavior refers to actions: your actions need to come from a real, natural place. Same as what Aloratom was saying. No leaps of logic were made. No fabrications. No forcing. Even if you make mistakes, just as long as they're coming from an understandable place. Contrast, inorganic behavior where leaps of logic were made to justify a vote. Reads are fabricated and forced. They make mistakes like this because they have to fake not having information, fake scumhunting, fake everything.

Town motivation refers to reasons: your point of view should reflect someone who has no information, no agenda other than to figure out who could be scum. This means you'll have paranoia, self-preservation, concern for the town win condition, etc.

You can fake these, but it's very hard.

Townhunting is as good as scumhunting, because you can use the process of elimination to move on to other people who can be scum.

So do I think you're town? You're probably town. Do I think you're scum? Right now, I think there are other people who could be more scum than you are.