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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:42 am
by Billy Pilgrim
I feel like I'm doing a good job of playing dumb. I'm back on NPOM.

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:43 am
by Datisi
i don't think that's clearing for andres. scum does sometimes townread each other.

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:44 am
by Datisi
In post 173, Billy Pilgrim wrote:
In post 171, Datisi wrote:in case my "claim loyal neighborizer then tracker" gambit backfires and i need to confirm myself to be a mason, i'm going to claim to be masons with you.
But that only happens if when she owns the initial gambit, that people start to trust Baltar over her.
which i kinda doubt, because i have a strong tracker crumb + you two will obviously vote with me, but you never know.

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:45 am
by hellbooks
+1 on don't think that's clearing for andres. i think you'll win a 1v1 with baltar

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:47 am
by Datisi
i think the most important part is figuring out if bob/baltar can be s/s. if not, bob has amazing reads which i'd be more than happy to take inspiration from.

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:48 am
by hellbooks
thanks for carrying me u guys

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:49 am
by hellbooks
& yeah we should hear from bob first

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:52 am
by Datisi
i think i'm gonna be like "hey baltar, can we talk about the bob wagon for a sec" and when he says "sure" i'mma slam the guilty on him so he doesn't have time to scramble for a fakeclaim. but patience. patience. we need to see how the threads is breathing first.

aaaaaaaaa i haven't been in a 1v1 in a LONG time, this is exciting!

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:53 am
by Billy Pilgrim
In post 176, Datisi wrote:i don't think that's clearing for andres. scum does sometimes townread each other.
But like hard townreads them? Well if he's scum, they don't have a watcher. Or at least they didn't watch Baltar

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:55 am
by Datisi
agh, i don't know. i've definitely seen scum hard townread their partners (shit i've been there myself, it catches town by surprise)

who do you think are viable partners then? aldu/testa/koba? like is anyone else even left?

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:55 am
by Billy Pilgrim
also, Baltar has to post a bit before you drop the guilty on him. I wanna see how he was planning on entering the day.

And Hellbooks, we're not carrying you. We're all just playing. Look Datisi was wrong on her strong scumread yesterday. This game is hard and people need to stop second guessing and the crippling self-doubt. That's my job.

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:55 am
by hellbooks
I might try to purposely assoc with datisi more to provide cover for billy? although it might be easier to sniff him out if two pieces of the puzzle are known to scum

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:56 am
by Billy Pilgrim
I'm still not off NPOM. I think i had expressed some skepticism of NPOM before Baltar decided to go after me as well. So we're leaning on white knight, but maybe that was a D1 early chainsaw.

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:57 am
by hellbooks
Testa and VP also have similar townread assocs, i would say testa has lower partner equity with baltar than andres does. i could deeeefinitely see aldu. just at a first glance. NPOM's not bad

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:58 am
by Datisi
i'm trying to tie myself to ico as best as i can. you two can "subtly" hint tomorrow "no we probably shouldn't be pushing ico".

i am not carrying anyone, i am using my life to eat a bullet for our PR because that's all i'm good for :')

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:59 am
by hellbooks
oh i thought testa was hardcore townreading VP but found this interesting post:
In post 864, Testarossa wrote:Baltar is a tough one. I am very fond of his posts and can easily be pocketed here, especially because I feel we were on the same wavelength with our reads on the gamestate and I was leaning town on him for that. I actually think his willingness to let Snow get hammered isn't necessarily scummy, I think scum could have easily moved away from the wagon here. At least I think his willingness to win people over for Billy or Snow might have been more town motivated here as they aren't really interesting miselims for scum.
but this also seems cheeky if testa was VP's partner

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:05 am
by Datisi
i just remembered the early "townread but could be fooling me" read from andres. at first i thought that was an attempt to pocket then push baltar, but... ugh, later on in his iso he has baltar as town. gonna be interesting to see how the game turns upside down.

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:11 am
by Datisi
i'm reskimming baltar's iso. the npom townreading him the suddenly flipping onto scumreading him... i didn't notice any interactions with aldus. +partner?

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:41 am
by Billy Pilgrim
In post 188, hellbooks wrote:Testa and VP also have similar townread assocs, i would say testa has lower partner equity with baltar than andres does. i could deeeefinitely see aldu. just at a first glance. NPOM's not bad
What does not bad here mean?

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:43 am
by Billy Pilgrim
Oh God, I so badly want to here why Baltar thinks the GB kill was weird.

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:44 am
by Datisi
"wait what the fuck do you mean he wasn't a PR????"

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:45 am
by Billy Pilgrim
In post 189, Datisi wrote:i'm trying to tie myself to ico as best as i can. you two can "subtly" hint tomorrow "no we probably shouldn't be pushing ico".

i am not carrying anyone, i am using my life to eat a bullet for our PR because that's all i'm good for :')
Uh... thats a croc of shit and you know it.

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:49 am
by Datisi
if you get second guessing and the crippling self-doubt, i get self-deprecating jokes.

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:08 am
by Billy Pilgrim
I wanna let Baltar have some comments on the Bob wagon and NK before you blow up the thread. Thats my two cents.

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:11 am
by Datisi
i know, i know, definitely, we need some spicy associates to work with tonight. my only worry is a quicklynch on bob before i get a chance to claim it, but how often do those happen anyway amirite...