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oops wrong pronoun sorry koba!!! *their hardclaim*

just figured out that if we yeet the mafia child and koba didn't rand the child love then we have 2/5 shot at winning it tomorrow

not auto tho

In post 174, insomnia wrote:I don't really see what you're saying? there are 3VTs in this setup and another mafia father outside of the mother.

how is it auto on D2 if 3 people claim with like 5 unknown people?

Here's how it works.

we have:

3VT

2Kids

4Parents.


Right now we have 2 people claiming to be town mommy:


You and Koba.

So if we open claim the kids now - we can know exactly which kid is the town kid, since both dad/mom will say "This kid is my kid" and mafia can't do that.


So now we know the good kid and the mafia kid.

We kill the mafia kid, one of the mafia parents commits suicide. -> if the mafia parent that commits suicide is not within (Insomnia/Koba) we have a lockwin:

Since we would be left with

M/D/K
Mafia
3 VT

If Mafia kills the Kid, the real mom commits suicide and we kill the fake mom tomm.

If the mafia kills a VT, we have enough elims to kill both moms.


So that's 50% chance of a lockwin right there.


Now let's say the mafia that flips is like koba or insom - then mafia kills the town-child, town loses 2 ICs and we go into endgame with like 3 VTs vs 1 Mafia.

is the mafia family child actually a town member?

according to the setup yes.

there are 2 kids and niether of them knows whether they r mafia kid or town kid

but they both win with the town? at least according to the color chart thing

the thing is, if we claim our child and if we hit koba's child

then if we fall in the bad scenario, tomorrow we wake up with 3vts and a mafia, which puts it at MyYo

maybe this setup wasn't as broken as I thought it would be, but it seems pretty lame in the sense that if you choose to cheese it mechanically, you go into F3 without any sort of info on who the last one can be other than pure guesswork.

so lol @ whoever thought this was townsided, it's actually pretty scumsided fmpov, at least

admittedly, mafia is gambiting here

and it could technically be the scenario where it's auto for town no matter if we hit wrong or not, I think

unless I'm missing numbers

if you are town and koba is mafia parent and koba doesnt suicide - its auto-loss for mafia. so its at least 50% town EV.

I think we can also win 3 VT vs 1 Mafia Parent too just off info

kk i was HOPING for that.

now i know im the mafia's kid

lets go yolo

VOTE: koba

In post 184, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:if you are town and koba is mafia parent and koba doesnt suicide - its auto-loss for mafia

yeah, that's the ideal scenario

but if it's the other one, then it's gonna be pretty tough

now i get to use this image

that's a plot twist

VOTE: koba :3

In post 185, DkKoba wrote:kk i was HOPING for that.

now i know im the mafia's kid

lets go yolo

VOTE: koba

that's actually a genius move if you're the mafia child here, lol

props

we have a guaranteed scum death today and scum already knew my identity.

scum either risks eliminating an unclear

or they can get a guaranteed clear that will still be aware of a clear townie the next day

In post 189, insomnia wrote:that's actually a genius move if you're the mafia child here, lol

well you know the town-child's name right?

see you all in the next iteration

hopefully this doenst backfire on me

if i knew this one would have counted i wouldnt have blown this so early with no info

also for QoL purpose, the mafia parents should know which parent has the childs love so they can at least play around that and let that parent play with a cc/comfortably let mafia kill their child in the case of a scum elim d1

insomnia u claim im not ur child right?

i hope so bc if i was town child i would have easily been able to claim with no issue.

In post 196, DkKoba wrote:insomnia u claim im not ur child right?

I thought that much was obvious

otherwise, I don't really see why I'd counterclaim you?

whats funny is i did it on a whim thinking pooky was softing mother to me and i could roleswap