Newbie 2061 | Views of Tallinn | Town wins

[lendunistus]

Newbie 2061 - Votecount 1.7

Votecount

catboi (3):

iN3krO, Meuh, Pearofclubs

iN3krO (2):

NorwegianBoyEE, catboi

Not_Mafia (1):

Not_Mafia

Toriiiiiiiiiiii (1):

Samawoodo

Not Voting (2):

Toriiiiiiiiiiii and marcistar

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to eliminate a player.

Deadline:

(expired on 2021-04-17 15:00:00)

Vote history

Meuh votes Pearofclubs: Post #9
NorwegianBoyEE votes Not_Mafia: Post #10
Samawoodo votes Toriiiiiiiiiiii: Post #15
catboi votes Pearofclubs: Post #45
Not_Mafia votes themselves: Post #46
NorwegianBoyEE votes Meuh: Post #60
iN3krO votes catboi: Post #96
Pearofclubs votes iN3krO: Post #97
Meuh votes catboi: Post #100
NorwegianBoyEE votes iN3krO: Post #125
Pearofclubs votes catboi: Post #134
catboi votes iN3krO: Post #174

edit: missed cat's iN3krO vote when I originally posted this, apologies

edit2: forgot to remove norwegianboyee’s original vote when they voted iN3krO, fixed now

[lendunistus]

Not_Mafia has been prodded.

They have 24 hours to post until I start looking for a replacement for them.

[lendunistus]

Samawoodo has been prodded.

They have 24 hours to post until I start looking for a replacement for them.

[Samawoodo]

@Not_Mafia:

thoughts on Tori?

@Samawoodo:

thoughts on Catboi?

Uhm actually is a null for me, idk, i dont feel like he is scummy for me atm. I mean, i have not so many reads for him right now so actually i couldnt figure so much about him

[Samawoodo]

@Not_Mafia:

thoughts on Tori?

@Samawoodo:

thoughts on Catboi?

@Tori:

thoughts on Marci and Sama?

@iN3krO:

thoughts on Sama and Tori?

@NorwegianboyEE:

Could you explain how your read on Sama evolved from #68 to #125?

@Marci:

Thoughts on Tori?

@Pearofclubs:

Thoughts on Marci and Sama?

@Catboi:

Thoughts on N_M and Norwee?

I'm going to pointedly refuse to answer this and instead ask why you felt the need to ask everyone about different people.

Ok i didnt read this when i wrote my previous post

I dont see the point of that tbh, i mean, is not like he asked you for a 2v2 or something like that (anyway, that wouldn't be a problem either). Is like you are being so defensive without reason (We are at D1 still)

If someone ask about my thoughts, i wouldnt have any problem sharing them

I hope you are not afraid of sharing them

[Meuh]

@Not_Mafia:

thoughts on Tori?

@Samawoodo:

thoughts on Catboi?

@Tori:

thoughts on Marci and Sama?

@iN3krO:

thoughts on Sama and Tori?

@NorwegianboyEE:

Could you explain how your read on Sama evolved from #68 to #125?

@Marci:

Thoughts on Tori?

@Pearofclubs:

Thoughts on Marci and Sama?

@Catboi:

Thoughts on N_M and Norwee?

I'm going to pointedly refuse to answer this and instead ask why you felt the need to ask everyone about different people.

I asked everyone about people I wanted them to elaborate their read on, so either people they haven't or barely have mentioned/interacted with so we can build a fuller picture of the game, I feel like the partners are probably not interacting much, so asking these questions could help bait out scum/scum interactions, which would probably be pretty great.

[Meuh]

@Not_Mafia:

thoughts on Tori?

@Samawoodo:

thoughts on Catboi?

@Tori:

thoughts on Marci and Sama?

@iN3krO:

thoughts on Sama and Tori?

@NorwegianboyEE:

Could you explain how your read on Sama evolved from #68 to #125?

@Marci:

Thoughts on Tori?

@Pearofclubs:

Thoughts on Marci and Sama?

@Catboi:

Thoughts on N_M and Norwee?

I'm going to pointedly refuse to answer this and instead ask why you felt the need to ask everyone about different people.

Ok i didnt read this when i wrote my previous post

I dont see the point of that tbh, i mean, is not like he asked you for a 2v2 or something like that (anyway, that wouldn't be a problem either). Is like you are being so defensive without reason (We are at D1 still)

If someone ask about my thoughts, i wouldnt have any problem sharing them

I hope you are not afraid of sharing them

Yeah, I mean why not answer the question? Plus you can still ask me why while also answering, no reason not to help develop the game, unless you're scum?

[marcistar]

Newbie 2061 - Votecount 1.7

Votecount

catboi (3):

iN3krO, Meuh, Pearofclubs

iN3krO (2):

NorwegianBoyEE, catboi

Not_Mafia (1):

Not_Mafia

Toriiiiiiiiiiii (1):

Samawoodo

Meuh (1):

NorwegianBoyEE

Not Voting (2):

Toriiiiiiiiiiii and marcistar

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to eliminate a player.

Deadline:

(expired on 2021-04-17 15:00:00)

im sorry, im so confused, why does norwegianboyee have 2 votes on here..?

[marcistar]

I dont see the point of that tbh, i mean, is not like he asked you for a 2v2 or something like that (anyway, that wouldn't be a problem either). Is like you are being so defensive without reason (We are at D1 still)

I agree, I don't see the point on him holding out reads

If someone ask about my thoughts, i wouldnt have any problem sharing them

on this note, do you have any thoughts on other people..?

[lendunistus]

Newbie 2061 - Votecount 1.7

Votecount

catboi (3):

iN3krO, Meuh, Pearofclubs

iN3krO (2):

NorwegianBoyEE, catboi

Not_Mafia (1):

Not_Mafia

Toriiiiiiiiiiii (1):

Samawoodo

Meuh (1):

NorwegianBoyEE

Not Voting (2):

Toriiiiiiiiiiii and marcistar

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to eliminate a player.

Deadline:

(expired on 2021-04-17 15:00:00)

im sorry, im so confused, why does norwegianboyee have 2 votes on here..?

Apologies, mistake on my part. Will be fixed ASAP.

[NorwegianboyEE]

My votes carry such depth, such volume. That counting them twice is only natural.

[marcistar]

Apologies, mistake on my part. Will be fixed ASAP.

Ah issok ty!

My votes carry such depth, such volume. That counting them twice is only natural.

ah facts

[Toriiiiiiiiiiii]

Current reads-TR Norwee, Pear, , Null Not_mafia, sama SR Meuh, Catboi, marci

Sorry I haven't been involved as much I've been a bit busy~ I'll try and talk more

[marcistar]

SR Meuh, Catboi, marci

Can I ask for you to explain pretty please?

[catboi]

Ok i didnt read this when i wrote my previous post

I dont see the point of that tbh, i mean, is not like he asked you for a 2v2 or something like that (anyway, that wouldn't be a problem either). Is like you are being so defensive without reason (We are at D1 still)

If someone ask about my thoughts, i wouldnt have any problem sharing them

I hope you are not afraid of sharing them

It's not like it would be particularly difficult to answer that question as scum, indeed if my focus were simply on pleasing people I'd answer straight away and be done with it.

speaking of not answering questions, though - you didn't answer mine. Is there anyone you currently suspect?

I asked everyone about people I wanted them to elaborate their read on, so either people they haven't or barely have mentioned/interacted with so we can build a fuller picture of the game, I feel like the partners are probably not interacting much, so asking these questions could help bait out scum/scum interactions, which would probably be pretty great.

I ask because it struck me as the sort of move that is designed to appear like someone is being helpful on the surface but is largely directionless and accomplishes nothing, a maneuver I've attempted as scum before. I don't think asking people for opinions on others based on putting names together seemingly at random accomplishes much.

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I find myself with several people I fos, and not much in the way of townreads.

[Pearofclubs]

I return as promised!
Let's get right into it.

Er, the post I was typing up

was

the one you got. I didn't have anything more to say at the time. Is being disinterested scummy to you?

Being disinterested? No, although you engaging more could have made it more interesting for all involved.
Barely participating? A bit. You made one RVS post and then vanished. That's not good.
You've also been acting fairly defensive, not answering questions, not sharing your thoughts. Not townie behavior.
You can argue semantics about it not being fluff if you like, but you didn't stick around to do anything with any reactions that you might've gotten.
But it's still very early

@Pearofclubs: Thoughts on Marci and Sama?

Hm.
Marci I don't really have any new impression of. She was null* pointedly with an asterisk because of that conspiracy theory. She's been asking questions and doing some work, but at the same time there isn't a post she's done that immediately jumps to mind when I think of her. Which leaves me with the impression that maybe she's been posting a lot without doing a lot? I think I'll reread the thread from the beginning again tonight and see if there's anything that pings me. You too, by the way. I feel like with the amount you two have posted I should have stronger feelings. We'll see after another read

Sama is on the lower end of neutral right now. It's admittedly difficult to place him because of the language barrier and the first-game-jitters that I can completely relate to. I guess I'll add him to the list of people I need to completely re-read, lol.

[catboi]

Being disinterested? No, although you engaging more could have made it more interesting for all involved.
Barely participating? A bit. You made one RVS post and then vanished. That's not good.
You've also been acting fairly defensive, not answering questions, not sharing your thoughts. Not townie behavior.
You can argue semantics about it not being fluff if you like, but you didn't stick around to do anything with any reactions that you might've gotten.
But it's still very early

Again, though, you can say me being inactive is

not good

or

unhelpful

, but that doesn't really cross the bridge to be

being scum

, does it? Focusing solely on someone's activity is unfortunately a poor method of finding scum, sometimes there are players who lurk because they have a hard time faking it, but other times people are just naturally disinterested. (granted, my last scumgame offsite, I was miserably frozen and flaked out, but I don't think I'd have that problem here because it's so much slower paced).

I think "defensive" is a term that gets thrown around whenever someone bothers to defend themself, at all, which is a fairly natural thing in a game of mafia. It's an accusation that has very little meaning. Why do you see my not answering qusetions as scummy? It's a very easy thing to comply with the requests of others if I were scum, and that's probably what I'd be doing. But if I feel like I'm getting asked a question that's useless or suspect I'm going to uestion them instead. I can understand your frustration with me not simply plopping down a reads list but most of my thoughts right now are half-formed, I'm still in the process of feeling hings out. In my previous post, I was going to give some townreads then when I went back to reread people, I doubted myself and deleted that part of my post. I don't like making statements that amount to "eh, could go either way, who knows"

[NorwegianboyEE]

Catboi is town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

No ifs, buts, or why’s about it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Sry guys, but Catboi wagon sucks. He’s towntelling in his posts here and we should go somewhere else.

[lendunistus]

iN3krO has been prodded.

They have 24 hours to post until I will start looking for a replacement for them.

[catboi]

While I appreciate the defense, I'm not too bothered by the votes on me right now. Why do you think I'm towntelling?

[iN3krO]

@catboi If you answer me with another question I don't really feel like answering ya. I don't think it's a coincidence that you and NM are voting me, though I think it's quite reactive and doesn't indicate aligment of either of you.

[iN3krO]

Wait, NM ain't voting me, just scumreading me, but doing nothing useful with his vote.....

TR Norwee, Pear, , Null Not_mafia, sama SR Meuh, Catboi, marci

Could you please care to explain why do you explicitly have NM and Sama as Null but you have omitted me? What does that mean?

[Not_Mafia]

I'm waiting to hammer you