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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:16 am
by RationalMadman
Pressure isn't meant to be fun, it's meant to force reads and tells from the tubneleed player and bystanders.

Your reactions have been nulltelling at the start, you could be angry town for sure. I would prefer voting Orctin to you, if you are willing to vote him.

I am inclined to not vote anyone else over you because yoyr anger seems proportional to how much players are coming at you, which is not a way most players who are town react. Sone town olayers do act this way but they're detrimental to the Town as that means anyone who buddies them automatically gets townread by them.

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:16 am
by RationalMadman
Andante, how do you read Orctin and Rathe, please be precise as possible.

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:17 am
by Andante
whatever.


and, no thanks, I'm not conversing with you, just for you to pick it apart and tell me how bad the read is

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:19 am
by RationalMadman
Why not? Isn't that how you'll defeat me if I am scum and you are town? If I am town and you are town, isn't it also how you'd win me over?

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:20 am
by Andante
quite honestly, I don't care to win you over?? I'm just pissed right now, so maybe you'll get content from me later, I need to step away, I'm so over this

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:22 am
by RationalMadman
Well I will stay on yoyr bandwagon then. I do want T3 to kustify his scumread on you more.

Out of curiosity what ahout T3's meta is it that you say is so scummy vs his previous games?

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:23 am
by RationalMadman
Justify*

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:24 am
by Andante
In post 180, RationalMadman wrote:Well I will stay on yoyr bandwagon then. I do want T3 to kustify his scumread on you more.

Out of curiosity what ahout T3's meta is it that you say is so scummy vs his previous games?

feel free to go skim ISOs of any of his past games, and it will be very clear. and not like I care if you stay on my wagon

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:24 am
by Rathe
being emotional will not allow u to play the game well

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:25 am
by Rathe
do u think rational is mafia?

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:26 am
by Andante
In post 183, Rathe wrote:being emotional will not allow u to play the game well

call me shit at this for all I care, it's how I play, and when people anger me, it's literally not good. so I'm stepping away for an unknown amount of time, cause I honestly can't deal right now.

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:26 am
by Rathe
otherwise y would u close off discussion

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:27 am
by Rathe
In post 185, Andante wrote:call me shit at this for all I care, it's how I play, and when people anger me, it's literally not good. so I'm stepping away for an unknown amount of time, cause I honestly can't deal right now.
k thats good take care

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:49 am
by RationalMadman
I have taken a lot at T3's games (most are ongoing so I won't say any details). I can't truly ascertain meta from any, I don't think it obeys rules if I specify why but the reason is rather blatant.

Let me put it this way, meta can only be developed when you've seen the behaviour of a player you can 100% match to their flipped alignment and role (especit alignment). The data required to conclude this is... Insufficient as of this post.

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:50 am
by RationalMadman
Look at, not lot at*

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:50 am
by RationalMadman
Especially* alignment

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:06 am
by RationalMadman
T3 ought to convince us of voting Andante though, much more than he already has. At the moment, T3 scumreads Andante based on some quotes but little explanation has gone into why.

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:10 am
by orctin
Honestly Day 1 is always a Crapshoot - and odds are against town with any day 1 vote cause it's just to easy to basically have 2 townies facing off against each other which i am starting to wonder if that's what is happening with Rational and Andante. At which case then need to think about who's really egging the two sides on - there's your scummie

I would need to read back to look that way at the last few pages, as busy at work so do it later, but i would suspect your best scum target isn't one of them, but someone on the side wanting to keep attention there.

Vote: NoVote

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:23 am
by RationalMadman
Spoiler:
In post 192, orctin wrote:Honestly Day 1 is always a Crapshoot - and odds are against town with any day 1 vote cause it's just to easy to basically have 2 townies facing off against each other which i am starting to wonder if that's what is happening with Rational and Andante. At which case then need to think about who's really egging the two sides on - there's your scummie

I would need to read back to look that way at the last few pages, as busy at work so do it later, but i would suspect your best scum target isn't one of them, but someone on the side wanting to keep attention there.

Vote: NoVote


Well, that would definitely be you, yoyr entire reading system and vote on me was based on this rivalry too.

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:24 am
by RationalMadman
You unvote by saying Unvote, not saying vote novote

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:36 am
by orctin
Unvote


Yes cause you came in guns a blazing

Where's the day 1 hello how are you - lets have fun things. It's just straight to lynching people cause they told a joke :)

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:14 am
by T3
Andante's reaction to the whole sarcastic thing gut pinged me as scummy. Then Andante's defense was basically just: "You want to lim me because you're scum scared that you know what I can do. Then when rational AGREES Andante basically rage quits.

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:22 am
by Andante
excuse me? I didn't rage quit anything? I stepped away before I started saying personal stuff?

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:25 am
by T3
In post 185, Andante wrote:
In post 183, Rathe wrote:being emotional will not allow u to play the game well

call me shit at this for all I care, it's how I play, and when people anger me, it's literally not good. so I'm stepping away for an unknown amount of time, cause I honestly can't deal right now.

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:29 am
by RationalMadman
I think the team could legitimately/plausibly be Orctin and Andante. This also explains why Orctin joins the BW on me yet Andante lays off voting me despite being very angry. It's so that voting patterns don't come back to bite.

Of course, there is some confirmation bias involved in me seeieng this as a team.