In post 143, House wrote:I actually have the slightest of townleans on him, so I'll be interested in hearing more.
Mom thinks he's town because he sounds innocent, naive, and like a child apparently.
typically her soul reads like that are correct and especially when they are only on one specific post(which we won't reveal at the moment) so ig I'm willing to lay off on that for now. I trust mom's reads.
-norbearbearnor
I will say that the heads not agreeing on me is a good look imo.
Nora scum reads me in every game, but in our last game they were a hydra, and mom talked them out of it.
So this feels similar to that
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 1:34 pm
by LavosCore
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 1:41 pm
by ssbm_Kyouko
In post 136, Angel Warriors wrote:I think Lukewarm is scum if anyone wants to debate that with me. I think T3 and roden are scummy but I'm unwilling to look at them much at this point because their play styles are naturally scummy.
-bear nornor
Well I did want to vote luke up until 174, but now we have Noraa Roden and luke town, House off the table but tbh I skimmed him as i was focused on reading roden/nora.
I think i understand the T3 votes but i dont know yet if I agree with them. I'd rather VOTE: Guillotina right now
In post 136, Angel Warriors wrote:I think Lukewarm is scum if anyone wants to debate that with me. I think T3 and roden are scummy but I'm unwilling to look at them much at this point because their play styles are naturally scummy.
-bear nornor
Well I did want to vote luke up until 174, but now we have Noraa Roden and luke town, House off the table but tbh I skimmed him as i was focused on reading roden/nora.
I think i understand the T3 votes but i dont know yet if I agree with them. I'd rather VOTE: Guillotina right now
In post 136, Angel Warriors wrote:I think Lukewarm is scum if anyone wants to debate that with me. I think T3 and roden are scummy but I'm unwilling to look at them much at this point because their play styles are naturally scummy.
-bear nornor
Well I did want to vote luke up until 174, but now we have Noraa Roden and luke town, House off the table but tbh I skimmed him as i was focused on reading roden/nora.
I think i understand the T3 votes but i dont know yet if I agree with them. I'd rather VOTE: Guillotina right now
Have you been reading but not contributing?
Because this post implies that you've been reading but not contributing.
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 1:51 pm
by T3
Angel, while probably being mason had a very towny defense of Roden. From looking at the games myself I agree with this assessment so I think Roden is town.
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 1:53 pm
by House
In post 180, T3 wrote:Angel, while probably being mason had a very towny defense of Roden. From looking at the games myself I agree with this assessment so I think Roden is town.
Is there any particular reason you're trying to paint a target on Angel?
In post 136, Angel Warriors wrote:I think Lukewarm is scum if anyone wants to debate that with me. I think T3 and roden are scummy but I'm unwilling to look at them much at this point because their play styles are naturally scummy.
-bear nornor
Well I did want to vote luke up until 174, but now we have Noraa Roden and luke town, House off the table but tbh I skimmed him as i was focused on reading roden/nora.
I think i understand the T3 votes but i dont know yet if I agree with them. I'd rather VOTE: Guillotina right now
Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute.
"I understand where the T3 votes are coming from"
The.... 2 RVS votes? VOTE: ssbm
In post 180, T3 wrote:Angel, while probably being mason had a very towny defense of Roden. From looking at the games myself I agree with this assessment so I think Roden is town.
Is there any particular reason you're trying to paint a target on Angel?
In post 180, T3 wrote:Angel, while probably being mason had a very towny defense of Roden. From looking at the games myself I agree with this assessment so I think Roden is town.
Is there any particular reason you're trying to paint a target on Angel?
In post 85, Roden wrote:Nora you literally admitted you couldn't explain your scum read on me right up until your rep out lol. You just didn't want to admit your read on me was bad, which was what I kept telling you and was conclusively confirmed with my rep in's flip. My reaction was bad, I'll admit, but I react poorly to bad scum reads.
Ok, but it isnt Noraa making the push here. Defaulting to "Oh noraa you can't read me" isn't going to work.
-momma
More scum vibes. Why are both of you putting words in my mouth?
Currently thinking that Roden is town, the unprompted links to scum meta feels townie to me
Wholehearted disagree.
I'm not verse on his meta but so far, quite a few slots are already towning themselves up.
He underwhelming, and so far is getting pushed lower and lower into the bottom of my list.
Also, he is clearly not a mason here
I'd love to hear your reasons why. Because right now it looks like you're scum trying to push a mis-elim that you can excuse with an emotional reaction to a previous game. You're looking for bias to protect you and that's not gonna work here.
Roden, I get it. you're town but there's no reason to act the way you are. I understand that you think your scum and town games are vastly different but that doesn't mean other people can see it as clearly. we are sorting you in good faith and you gain nothing from lashing out at everyone.
I tried very hard to work with you in summertime. If you decide to treat me the way you did that game, I am going to be very upset. Please stop. I will town case you. Stop arguing with people and just think. You are engaging people that you think are town in such bad faith. That is not going to get you anywhere. Literally, they are only going to get upset and think you are scum. What do you gain from that? You gain nothing so please stop.
-beario
I play like this as town because I rely more on logic than vibes. I genuinely have trouble reading interactions and I'm not good at catching lies/reading intentions. But I'm fairly competent at catching people when it comes to their reactions.
In our newbie game I knew you were town and town locked you once I figured out your playstyle, and you almost read me correctly multiple times but our playstyles clashed too much. I genuinely believe we lost that game the moment you replaced out because Bulge wasn't bothering to solve. We both heavily suspected Italiano/Cabd and I think we could have Day 1'd him if we came together there.
Btw I don't actually scum read you. Your responses are actually pretty townie but I pushed to see how genuine you were. I think you're genuinely trying to read me here.
House wrote:
In post 147, Roden wrote:I'm honestly super easy to read and consider it one of my bigger weaknesses, but most people just don't bother trying to read me for whatever reason. They just vibe check a random post then park their vote.
You're not exactly giving me much to work with.
Who's scum? All you seen to care about is whining about my vote.
Get over it and scum hunt.
What do you think I'm doing?
Don't complain about my attitude if you're just gonna be rude and complain yourself. I don't know if you're actually town and it would be a bad play to blindly believe your claim.
???????
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 2:43 pm
by Robert M Hunter
In post 84, House wrote:Ok, so after some interesting discussion in the PT, I have some cool info to share.
I'm a mason JoaT.
My partner is a mason bodyguard.
The reason I am claiming is because we agree that their flip when I am targeted will confirm me and buy me an extra day, and we expect that I will not be the n1 target as scum typically avoids the "obvious" kill in order to prevent being busted by investigatives or preempted by protectives.
I will not flavor claim until my partner dies, at which point I will claim flavor and the uses of my JoaT shots.
I'm interested in the discussion you had that led to this unconventional decision.
In post 84, House wrote:Ok, so after some interesting discussion in the PT, I have some cool info to share.
I'm a mason JoaT.
My partner is a mason bodyguard.
The reason I am claiming is because we agree that their flip when I am targeted will confirm me and buy me an extra day, and we expect that I will not be the n1 target as scum typically avoids the "obvious" kill in order to prevent being busted by investigatives or preempted by protectives.
I will not flavor claim until my partner dies, at which point I will claim flavor and the uses of my JoaT shots.
You're not concerned about a Roleblocker? When I got JoaT in a different game, a RB was also in the mix and completely neutralized me.
How did the two of you come to think it was a good idea to out a role that begs to be roleblocked?
From what perspective would you not see that coming?
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 2:46 pm
by Angel Warriors
you all realize
The more people question the mason claim, and the reason for coming out, the easier it is for scum to slowly narrow down who the other mason partner is, if the claim rings true?
In post 84, House wrote:Ok, so after some interesting discussion in the PT, I have some cool info to share.
I'm a mason JoaT.
My partner is a mason bodyguard.
The reason I am claiming is because we agree that their flip when I am targeted will confirm me and buy me an extra day, and we expect that I will not be the n1 target as scum typically avoids the "obvious" kill in order to prevent being busted by investigatives or preempted by protectives.
I will not flavor claim until my partner dies, at which point I will claim flavor and the uses of my JoaT shots.
I'm interested in the discussion you had that led to this unconventional decision.
In post 84, House wrote:Ok, so after some interesting discussion in the PT, I have some cool info to share.
I'm a mason JoaT.
My partner is a mason bodyguard.
The reason I am claiming is because we agree that their flip when I am targeted will confirm me and buy me an extra day, and we expect that I will not be the n1 target as scum typically avoids the "obvious" kill in order to prevent being busted by investigatives or preempted by protectives.
I will not flavor claim until my partner dies, at which point I will claim flavor and the uses of my JoaT shots.
You're not concerned about a Roleblocker? When I got JoaT in a different game, a RB was also in the mix and completely neutralized me.
How did the two of you come to think it was a good idea to out a role that begs to be roleblocked?
From what perspective would you not see that coming?
I don't see how any of that is your concern at this point in time.
I've guaranteed that I never see MyLo. That's all you need to know about me for d1.
This kind of post raises flags with me, because absolutely nothing pro-town can come from following the path he's trying to go down.
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 2:54 pm
by Robert M Hunter
I'm not interested in the who, I am interested in the thought process behind the decision.
Your post reads like a performative Look At Me I'm Town.
The more people question the mason claim, and the reason for coming out, the easier it is for scum to slowly narrow down who the other mason partner is, if the claim rings true?
This is not a discussion we will have today
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 2:57 pm
by Robert M Hunter
Just tp give everyone a heads up, I work in hardscaping, it's seasonal work and my hours in the summer are long and physically draining.
I will be visiting the thread reliably every evening.