Let's please keep in mind of the, state L1 and intention to hammer before EoD occurs, if it does.
would also be nice to leash gamma emerald to eliminate someone who is not me if the throne is a kingmaker type deal on account of this entire push feeling like it might be preemptively designed to explain him doing so
what in the everliving fuck
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:50 am
by Morning Tweet
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:56 am
by petapan
i don't think taly/ulyana are s/s based on taly fosing both ulyana and dunn early although that's kind of a hipfire read
i want to highlight key interactions and maybe even do iso commentary when i have the time
In post 1470, Taly wrote:I don't receive much from your posts to be honest. Some of your opinions and ideas come from a mindset that seems more survivalistic than solving.
okay well i'm town who would like to play future minigames and am not particularly strong at solving without information and currently your method of sorting me is flipping me so maybe try something else
actually kind of like this even though anyone can post that sort of thing, seen while going through skitter
In post 1470, Taly wrote:I don't receive much from your posts to be honest. Some of your opinions and ideas come from a mindset that seems more survivalistic than solving.
okay well i'm town who would like to play future minigames and am not particularly strong at solving without information and currently your method of sorting me is flipping me so maybe try something else
actually kind of like this even though anyone can post that sort of thing, seen while going through skitter
i'd say that both alignements want equally to survive the game (maybe scum a bit more) so like, what's likeable about that?
and Gamma is trying to get into the chair because he's a stagehand and he knows the chair is good.[Theory]
Dunnstral is saying the theory is incorrect because Gamma could've just voted himself into the chair but Gamma didn't - hence he can't be a stagehand who wants to get into the chair. [Theory is wrong]
This completely ignores the fact that if Gamma were to vote himself into the chair, and it was something good, Gamma would look hella susp for it, aka the rest of the game when maybe we get a chance to kill him.
So it's not as simple as Dunnstral is making it.
Dunnstral is like
good
at mech, so he should recognize this, but he simplifies it.
That feels informed to me.
Also he ignored Gamma's vote on him completely and chooses to comment on this part without really commenting on actual relevant shit.
i read this like three times and i'm not sure i get this, i'm sorry >.>
can u try to say this again?
skitter30 wrote:more broadly since we're at a pretty game-critical point, i prefer galron over gamma. i think they can be svs, but i do think galron is almost certainly s and would prefer him
i'm very underwhelmed by dunn but don't know if that ai for him, also think it would be a disappointing way to end the day if we ended up flipping him while we have this gamma/galron thing going on
In post 2044, Ydrasse wrote:peta's jealous that he has to post content to be townread tbh
i have actually gotten townread for not efforting, me doing that is actually strongly town indicative because i'm a massve tryhard as scum but most people don't understand that
anyway
VOTE: ydrasse
ydra is good there too.
i saw that there were votes for dunn and infinity. would be fine with dunn, don't really want infinity in it
In post 2105, Dunnstral wrote:Did Galron/Ydrasse read the event rules? It's clearly described as a duel to the death involving a gun, why vote yourselves in?
given that we don't know what the events actually,well, are, i'm kinda suspicious of people who intentionally seem to want access to them
In post 2213, Dunnstral wrote:Is relitigate some kind of buzzword that doesn't mean anything now?
My reads for today is what Ulyana just said in 2202, which I kind of hinted that that is where I was leaning, but wondering why other people thought otherwise
In post 2232, Dunnstral wrote:I don't know, and that isn't related to whether I'm "relitigating" stuff or not, so I'm not sure I want to follow you smoothly changing the topic of discussion
the two things are directly related: i'm critiquing that all you seem to be talking about is this setup stuff when you can be talking abt game-relevant and helpful things like who we should be having duel today
and why don't you know, and when do you think you will? that's kinda my point, like why don't you have reads and when will you
In post 2244, Dunnstral wrote:I think it will be more clear whether we've received a benefit when we know more about the event.
so you'd default to gamma being exempt from duel to determine after if we've received benefit?
hm, i think this makes some sense, though if gamma is a scums that leaves only 3 for us to hit 2 within with other choices
Putting my thoughts on gamma aside:
If we wanted to eliminate him, we had a chance to do so. We didn't take it. It's nonsense to try to eliminate him again using a seperate game mechanic, it would mean we wasted power
In post 2272, unwnd wrote:If you don't feel particularly convinced about Cakez skitter you could weigh in on the other subjects on Gamma's wagon for me
In post 2272, unwnd wrote:If you don't feel particularly convinced about Cakez skitter you could weigh in on the other subjects on Gamma's wagon for me
it is weird that you are weighting the gamma wagon towards scum when a) your slot was on the wagon and more importantly b) your slot was the opposing wagon
yeah i was thinkign this too
i'm not sure why gamma's wagon is the focus and not galron's
Galron's wagon during that phase is not important as the one that is happening on him right now. I don't really enjoy looking backwards unless it's to reference something. My read on Cakez is a short dive and I plan to mostly continue to do the same.
so why are you going backwards to focus on gamma instead of the wagon on u rn
also dunn's defense is awful, why would it indicate he's town here ... ?
In post 2289, unwnd wrote:This does not feel similar to scum Dunn who is just watching the town undo themselves while making strong observational points that get him townread. It's not a strong read but I'm purely instinctive right now
tbf i actually don't know his meta or particularly what his scumgame looks like
but he's basically sitting on the sidelines making random mechanical observations and i think that's scummy
In post 2279, Dunnstral wrote:My vote on Gamma wasn't nearly "the worst", nor is it even particularly ai, arguably. Trying to paint this as me having a substantial say in what happened when it was pretty much decided already without any input from me is a bad look.
don't like you arguing that this vote was arguably nai
- were u even scumreading him prior to the vote
- i'm taking issue with the fact that ur calling it nai, its like absolving yourself of any of thr connotations of the vote
In post 2550, Infinity 324 wrote:still though, i think that logic applies in the abstract whether or not you've seen someone's meta
i'm sort of wondering where else you're looking if not to dwlee (and maybe me) but then again unwnd hasn't really towntold yet
for the first point: strongly disagree, i think it very much depends on someone's meta and how they're likely to play the game
second point: dwlee/unwnd/dunn maybe ydra maybe maybe you
In post 2759, Taly wrote:Unwnd, if you're going to rip into my soul, type quicker.
I got a curfew.
Also sorry but what does this mean wrt how ur reading unwnd?
I took his last post of "but actually" as a "will get to you
Taly
ASAP."
In post 2801, skitter30 wrote:I felt his mortal-kombat reaction just now doesnt come from scum-him
Dunn wouod also be a good vote
VOTE: Dunn
Teamwork makes the dreamwork.
Dunn
, do something.
Ah ok - was willing for a read/ur thoughts on the unwnd/ydra thing. Would u mind sharing that and/or requoting if i missed it
(Tomorrow is fine tho, night!)
In post 1470, Taly wrote:I don't receive much from your posts to be honest. Some of your opinions and ideas come from a mindset that seems more survivalistic than solving.
okay well i'm town who would like to play future minigames and am not particularly strong at solving without information and currently your method of sorting me is flipping me so maybe try something else
actually kind of like this even though anyone can post that sort of thing, seen while going through skitter
i'd say that both alignements want equally to survive the game (maybe scum a bit more) so like, what's likeable about that?
are you just going to devil's advocate every goddamn thing i say
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:57 am
by Gypyx
well idk man, i'm not the one who writes your posts right?
apparently there's something with your current posting that's just unconvincing to me, even if i'm litterally just question the arguments in that specific case
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:01 am
by Gypyx
questioning*
also ehm whoops that sounded more agressive than i actually meant there
basically i didn't even notice until you pointed it out, and it's mostly just the fact that your takes are still a bit "raw" as they come out, see what i mean?
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:11 am
by petapan
sorry i misremembered, gamma was the one doubting when i was calling ulyana scummy earlier i just assumed you were being a contrarian on everything
like yes okay i litearally said anyone can give that response but the overall delivery and response there feels more likely to be town than scum
not just that she wants to survive but the annoyance that taly is only calling for her flip and nothing else feels more like a concern town would have it's not necessarily looking to talk him out of the read or discredit him just telling him to back off
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:15 am
by petapan
this is incredibly annoying to deal with because while i like picking through evidence and get better reads from backreading it's harder for me to operate without the ability to apply pressure
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:23 am
by Gypyx
In post 188, petapan wrote:sorry i misremembered, gamma was the one doubting when i was calling ulyana scummy earlier i just assumed you were being a contrarian on everything
like yes okay i litearally said anyone can give that response but the overall delivery and response there feels more likely to be town than scum
not just that she wants to survive but the annoyance that taly is only calling for her flip and nothing else feels more like a concern town would have it's not necessarily looking to talk him out of the read or discredit him just telling him to back off
yeah it's fine no worries, just didn't see where you were coming from, better like that
In post 1470, Taly wrote:I don't receive much from your posts to be honest. Some of your opinions and ideas come from a mindset that seems more survivalistic than solving.
okay well i'm town who would like to play future minigames and am not particularly strong at solving without information and currently your method of sorting me is flipping me so maybe try something else
actually kind of like this even though anyone can post that sort of thing, seen while going through skitter
i don't see anything here? this seems like a very NAI post and something I'd post as scum in this type of game
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:51 am
by SirCakez
I think if Skitter is scum here she doesn't constantly WK me when she could have just rolled over and helped Peta/unwnd/Dunn force me into the duel
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:52 am
by SirCakez
oh yeah lol we can vote in here VOTE: ulyana
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:14 am
by Gamma Emerald
Part of my ulyana feelings are based in effort justification
I worked pretty closely with her to try and get a sense of her game, and I liked what I saw. I don't wanna go back on that hard work, even if she does seem suspicious on some level.
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:19 am
by SirCakez
??????????
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:20 am
by petapan
can you link to that stuff
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:20 am
by Gamma Emerald
I'm saying I acknowledge that she's scummy-looking but I don't wanna go there when there's other options I rate less likely to be town and I also feel like from a certain point of view her play makes sense
the stuff I liked, the work I put in the sort her, or both?
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:22 am
by petapan
i should add we're bound by the same bullcrap antitown synced deadline rules as tenet and without even the ability to see what is going on in the other thread
don't put anyone in hammer range yet, i want no chances taken
