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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2021 2:56 am

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In post 172, Lukewarm wrote:I am nervous about who our replacement is going to be x.x
A shame there's now another 20 pages of posts for them to wade through compared to a day ago, lol.
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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2021 3:03 am

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In post 174, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 170, Lukewarm wrote:Sometimes I think that my posting level is a curse. My "slip" in 560 could have been nice, but I dont think that anyone will ever see it again because who the hell is doing a deep iso on me post flip lol

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In post 560, Tanner wrote:
In post 558, Lukewarm wrote:Also, Baltar, you do realize that imaginality is only confirmed
town
from your POV, and not from tanner's, right?
luke and vp confirmed scum ggwp


Funny enough, this really was a typo. And I spotted it. And I then actively chose to not correct it, because if it was taken as a slip later that was better for us lol
Uh, lmao
In post 946, Aristeia wrote:Luke said something earlier in the day about Imag only being confirmed town to VPBaltar, Tanner noted it as a skip and Luke laughed it off. If Luke does flip scum this does feel like more likely to be a slip.
LOL yes I was amused when I saw your post in here after I'd seen that post in thread.
In post 173, Lukewarm wrote:Ari and implo out here doing the lord's work
I see Tanner is pushing implo a bit. Not sure if we can make use of that at all? It does seem quite close as to who the scummiest player in the Wall is.
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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2021 4:09 am

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RH9 replaces Toogeloo.
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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2021 7:55 am

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Hello !
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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2021 7:58 am

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Hi RH9!

Cliff notes for you:

-numberQ is probably scum
-or on the off chance that it's not numberQ then it's implosion
-you're town :)
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Post Post #180 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:38 am

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I think that my "scum slip" on baltar has been mentioned enough that me flipping first probably helps you A Lot.

And me flipping scum could lead to an Implo miselim at the wall too.

The keep flipping first I think is infinitely better for us, even if I lose. Neither of those things work in reverse in our favor.
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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:10 am

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Yeah, a Pav town flip will also make VP suggesting him-me-DArby look way worse too.
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Post Post #182 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:31 am

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In post 180, Lukewarm wrote:I think that my "scum slip" on baltar has been mentioned enough that me flipping first probably helps you A Lot.

And me flipping scum could lead to an Implo miselim at the wall too.

The keep flipping first I think is infinitely better for us, even if I lose. Neither of those things work in reverse in our favor.
Cool but numberQ knows my towngame and is likely to get me eliminated at the Wall.

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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:37 am

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NumberQ is already locked in on your slot because he thinks implo is townie.

The options for you to win your game are for you to convince implosion that you are townie, and get number q eliminated

OR, once I flip, let Ari's argument that I am partnered with implosion sway numberq
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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:37 am

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The second option is only available if I flip first tho
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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:44 am

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In post 183, Lukewarm wrote:NumberQ is already locked in on your slot because he thinks implo is townie.

The options for you to win your game are for you to convince implosion that you are townie, and get number q eliminated

OR, once I flip, let Ari's argument that I am partnered with implosion sway numberq
On this note, RH9 maybe shouldn't push too hard for the Keep to flip first, as post-flip it might look like he had foreknowledge that Luke would flip scum. Probably better to attack numberQ for now and then 'reevaluate' when Keep flips?
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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:49 am

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Probably. Also, good luck with this Tanner situation
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Post Post #187 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:01 am

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In post 185, imaginality wrote:
In post 183, Lukewarm wrote:NumberQ is already locked in on your slot because he thinks implo is townie.

The options for you to win your game are for you to convince implosion that you are townie, and get number q eliminated

OR, once I flip, let Ari's argument that I am partnered with implosion sway numberq
On this note, RH9 maybe shouldn't push too hard for the Keep to flip first, as post-flip it might look like he had foreknowledge that Luke would flip scum. Probably better to attack numberQ for now and then 'reevaluate' when Keep flips?
I'm not sure about that because numberQ, in Open 835, was super cautious.

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Post Post #188 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:28 am

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From your pov, Implosion and numberQ has a scum in it - 100%

You should absolutely be approaching the game like you know there is one in there. NumberQ is definitely the easier push right now, unless you come up with some new case against implo.
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Post Post #189 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:00 am

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FYI, the reason for my confidence is actually because prior to replacing in, I had ISOed you, implosion, and numberQ. I had already scumread you before knowing that you were in fact, scum.

But I will try to push numberQ.

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Post Post #190 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:05 am

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In post 189, RH9 wrote:FYI, the reason for my confidence is actually because prior to replacing in, I had ISOed you, implosion, and numberQ. I had already scumread you before knowing that you were in fact, scum.

But I will try to push numberQ.
I could just answer you first.

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Post Post #191 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:20 am

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Your all good, I don't mind the scum read coming from you.

But, it kinda solidifies my scum read on your slot that was already a little there before rep in. I am a somewhat notorious OMGUS'er as town. I bristle at people scum reading me. I don't lock in, but it makes me suspicious. And for you that is being added to a slot that I was already slightly scum reading

This probably helps you if the keep goes first, hurts you if the wall goes first
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Post Post #192 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:22 am

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I am also notorious for presenting my reads very confidently as town. It is something that regularly alerts people I havent played with before, but it is definitely a feature of my town play.
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Post Post #193 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:22 am

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Not that you would have any reason to know that of course lol
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Post Post #194 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:24 am

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In post 189, RH9 wrote:FYI, the reason for my confidence is actually because prior to replacing in, I had ISOed you, implosion, and numberQ. I had already scumread you before knowing that you were in fact, scum.

But I will try to push numberQ.
When you did implosion and numberQ, who did you think was scum at the wall? Or did you already think that toog was scum?

You can push which ever you want, don't change your target based on me. I just saw Q as the easier push
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Post Post #195 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:35 am

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I am sorry if I go too hard on you. My thinking is that the keep looks like it will go first, and this could be good for you.

If you would rather me give you some breathing room, I can do that!
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Post Post #196 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:37 am

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Post Post #197 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:39 am

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I am going to fake a null on imaginality for 'being in the background'. It is the easiest narrative to pursue.

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Post Post #198 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:48 am

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I kinda need the keep to flip. Keeping this level of townieness up 100% of the time is exhausting. In normal games, scum can run at 80% of the time, most of the time. But just not getting eliminated here is not enough.

After playing this game twice, I think that town should probably not flip the keep first. In the first game, the keep flipped first for a scum win, and this one is leaning that way too. If scum has an uber townie looking WiM player, it is probably good for town to delay that game to see if they tire out / slip up over time. I think given enough time Birar could have lost the keep and given enough time I would lose the keep.
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Post Post #199 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2021 2:10 pm

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Sorry Lukewarm for portraying you as a villain.

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