Mini 724 - Drawn Together - Game over!!

farside22 · Post Post #1750 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2009 4:12 am

vote count:

Llamafluff 2 votes: (Zilla, Xtoxm)
Xtoxm 1 vote: (Llamafluff)

Not voting:

OGML

Zilla · Post Post #1751 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:35 am

Llama, you have to explain the lack of a kill last night to prove Xtoxm guilty. With OGML confirmed not-scum (absolutely no reason not to end the game by voting Llama) and with me protecting Xtoxm, there's only one possible source for a kill order.

LlamaFluff · Post Post #1752 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:35 am

Zilla wrote:Llama, you have to explain the lack of a kill last night to prove Xtoxm guilty. With OGML confirmed not-scum (absolutely no reason not to end the game by voting Llama) and with me protecting Xtoxm, there's only one possible source for a kill order.

Zilla wrote:Both OGML and Llama consider me a valid lynch candidate, and are pushing Xtoxm as confirmed town. That fits with no kill on Xtoxm.
Unfortunately, there's the possibility that Xtoxm submitted no-kill in the hopes that I would protect him and clear him, that he missed night action, or that I didn't submit a kill to verify that I'm a doctor.
On Xtoxm no-submitting for a clear, that's a 1/3 chance he's taking. I find this unlikely.
On missing it, it's possible that he missed it given his low frequency of posting.

You just argued this a few pages ago...

Zilla · Post Post #1753 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:11 pm

So, you're taking my argument that he missed it from low-frequency of posting?

I don't approve. I don't think he would have missed his shot, and I'm pretty convinced he didn't see the value of a 4p LyLo. You understood that, and your target was more likely to be Xtoxm if you had decided to kill. There's more evidence against you than the chance that Xtoxm didn't submit a kill.

OhGodMyLife · Post Post #1754 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2009 1:01 pm

Xtoxm may not post much, but he is very active on the forums - he would not miss a night action. That argument can be discarded.

*mumble mumble hate endgame decisions*

I am leaning towards hammering Llama. I need to ruminate on it further.

LlamaFluff · Post Post #1755 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2009 4:02 pm

Zilla wrote:So, you're taking my argument that he missed it from low-frequency of posting?

Im pointing out that you are trying to use logic that you just pushed as why not to clear xtoxm as why we shouldnt lynch him.

I really dont have any great case on xtoxm. The scummiest things coming out of him are first his complete lack of doing anything in this game. That big nothing post of his has to be at least as much word wise as he has posted in the rest of the game combined.

RS from day one just still bugs me though, he went back and forth on Nat the entire day. Continually saying he wanted to hammer, but felt it was best for the town if nat got replaced.

Later he descends into bandwagoning on "slim at best" reasons and discussing obvious theory such as no lynch is bad. The entire D1 he never gave any good reasoning as to why we should be lynching or letting live nat.

If you want to run a couple no lynch cycles to check for alignment conversion, im fine with that. A long time ago I messed around with a setup where mafia had to recruit their killer. I know its a longshot, but with zilla protecting OGML at nights it will either force a kill of zilla, making it an obvious one or the other situation.

OhGodMyLife · Post Post #1756 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2009 5:34 pm

Its time to pull the trigger.

Vote: LlamaFluff

Pre-emptive apologies/high fives to the town.

Zilla · Post Post #1757 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:10 pm

Well, we've got tonight if I save the right person again. Probably going to be OGML since he's obvtown.

Zilla · Post Post #1758 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:10 pm

That is, if we go to night at all.

OhGodMyLife · Post Post #1759 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:13 pm

*fingers crossed*

Cyberbob · Post Post #1760 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:20 pm

I'll take my apology in chocolate form, thanks OGML.

OhGodMyLife · Post Post #1761 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:44 pm

Cyberbob wrote:I'll take my apology in chocolate form, thanks OGML.

You'll get no such thing from me, Mr. Self-Hammers-As-Town.

Cyberbob · Post Post #1762 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:04 pm

Yes, clearly I was the worst player in this game.

LlamaFluff · Post Post #1763 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:06 pm

and the not getting lynched as town streak ends at 14...

Zilla · Post Post #1764 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:49 pm

I guess that leaves Xtoxm.

Crud.

Zilla · Post Post #1765 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:49 pm

Also, Bob, yeah, you were pretty much the worst player to self-hammer as town. I meant that facepalm picture.

Cyberbob · Post Post #1766 (ISO) » Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:59 pm

laffo

farside22 · Post Post #1767 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2009 6:01 am

I'm going to end the suspense here as I already got info and it changes nothing.

Llamafluff was lynched. He was vanilla town

I'm sorry I'm away from all my notes so characters and actions will be known tomorrow.

Xtoxm the last of the killers smiles at Zilla and OGML.
"Thanks you guys have been a great help to me. I thought for sure we were not going to win this with all the claims but I slid under the radar enough and helped enough to look like I was a whore like you 2."
With that Xtoxm pulls out a gun and shoots Zilla in the head. Zilla falls down shocked.
OGML "I only did what the teleprompter told me."
Xtoxm "I was immune to your investigation. The prompter knew me as town."
Xtoxm shots OGML. "So what do I win Jew Producer!"

Jew producer: "As I promised your freedom and money that will help you through to the rest of your life.
Now get the hell out of my house!"

Killing group wins!!

Zilla - town doctor - shot end game
OGML - town cop - shot end game

Xtoxm - killing group - immune to investigations wins

Kmd4390 · Post Post #1768 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2009 6:09 am

Llama, I blocked Darox Night 3, not Tajo.

And yeah, I blocked Cyberbob the night I died.

What happened to all the kills?

farside22 · Post Post #1769 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2009 6:13 am

Kmd4390 wrote:Llama, I blocked Darox Night 3, not Tajo.

And yeah, I blocked Cyberbob the night I died.

What happened to all the kills?

I'm sorry I'm away from all my notes so characters and actions will be known tomorrow.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1770 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2009 6:34 am

N1: Poro blocked
N2: Missed
N3: Pop kill OGML
N4: Pop killed Kmd
N5: I kill Kmd
N6: I No Kill

http://www.quicktopic.com/42/H/KeshRJLgrAUU9

I thought town had won ages ago. I'd say I deserved a medal, if hadn't done it so...Like I did. Day 5, I played only to spite Pop for what he said to me at night. It was only when N6 came that I realised I might actually be able to do it. I didn't think sacrificial townie would work as well as it did, it seemed the obvious move for me, because that's what i'd do as town in that situation.

I really felt bad for OGML on the last day there. He had it all completely wrong, and basically won me the game. Zilla and Llama did seem to think I was town too, though.

Llama - Glad I was the first to get you mislynched, then

Xtoxm · Post Post #1771 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2009 6:36 am

Oh, and the reason for my drop off in this game, was because of Farside's mistake. I mean, I understand people make mistakes, and that you couldn't really have handled it in any way other than you did. I have nothing against you for it. But still, it put me off.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1772 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2009 6:41 am

Oh, and N6, I No Killed because I suspected Zilla would protect me, and that would incrimiate Llama, and even if she hadn't, I thought Zilla-scum would have had reason to NoK.

Also, this game has showed me just how powerful town RB's are.

I think that's all I have to say.

Porochaz · Post Post #1773 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2009 7:07 am

Laugh is... I didnt kill night 1. I was telling the truth in that regard. I played this terribly but I was stuck in a losing battle. I am really suprised we won. Good job xtoxm... thought Id never say that...

LlamaFluff · Post Post #1774 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2009 8:12 am

I am at least happy that even though I was off for the most part, in the end I actually got just about everything to click calling CB town, then figuring out that Zilla was forced town and at least moving my vote to the right spot.

This game town played follow the roles way to much though, and I was completely serious when I said I almost replaced out. Had a post asking to be replaced typed out, then basically went with the "fuck this I can finish" mindset.

Also I still say the doctor protection should of been kmd every night.