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interesting that you're so sure he's scum that you're willing to put him at L-1 in potential MyLo

↑ kuribo wrote:interesting that you're so sure he's scum that you're willing to put him at L-1 in potential MyLo

L-2 is no different if he's town. And besides, epiphanies for me are rare but shine bright.

↑ RayFrost wrote:

↑ kuribo wrote:interesting that you're so sure he's scum that you're willing to put him at L-1 in potential MyLo

L-2 is no different if he's town.

true, true

and personally, i think Wrath has squirmed out of more than one lynch that should have been his

ordinarily i'm all for this thunderdome shit, but for now i'm going to bed.

(thats me still not trusting you to not be the first of two scumhammer votes btw)

When scum dies doesn't matter as long as they do.

Here's my mental breakdown so to speak (I was thinking this through on the way to and from the store):

I've thought spyrex is town basically all game. I can't buy him-scum without overwhelming evidence (such as me-scum or him-scum). There is no evidence. I've been roleblocked, this makes it possible for spy to have been telling the truth. In conjunction with the fact I've found him so oozingly town all game, I find this possibility more likely than him being lying scum.

With the roleblock existence in play, this could be either of spyrex's targets, fate has breadcrumbed the kdowns protection. It makes for spyrex-scum to kill kdowns. Just none. This further entrenches spy-town. Add in the thorough consistency of spyrex's target(s) and his play. Then mix in the fact that spy-scum has to remove the possibility of a sera-lynch.

This means seraphim was the blocked hide. So this leaves us with kuribo, wrathchild, and seraphim.

Ignoring the read I have on kuribo, let's consider the likelihood of the other two first.

Wrathchild has been consistently wriggling his way through this game, on the edge of death multiple times. His play so far is consistent with the desperation of scum. Why hasn't it been consistent with the desperation of town? The contradictions in his actions. Presenting a world where spyrex is scum but then going for kdowns instead, outright stating spyrex-town in his "unvote me if you don't want to lose" comment pointed out by kuribo.

Seraphim has been essentially a nonentity in this game. Hes been 100% coasting by on his miller claim with . This can be all well and dandy for town, but then you have to look at the connectivity here. . Add in the fact wrathchild has been as his reason to find seraphim town and ignore everything else. The connectivity here is blatant.

Now let's look at kuribo. He has essentially . There is simply no logical world in which kuribo is scum with maxous/wrath, meaning he is town by virtue of this aside from his own townie behavior. This assumes he isn't scum with seraphim, but even here there is . He's town.

The failing logic surrounding wrathchild in his struggles to push through this day are of someone trying to leave as much of a mess behind as possible to allow his coasting teammate to hide in the debris. Who is coasting right now? Kdowns. Seraphim. Following the above, kdowns is town.

This is the clearest, possibly redundant, way I can display my thoughts. I've thought this through. It feels right. There will be no egg on my face come endgame.

Holy shit. This stupidity is making my brain hurt. Seriously? If you're going to flavor case me read a bit more about Force Unleashed Kurbio. Every game has a choice at the end where you pick the lightside or the darkside. At the end of FUII, Starkiller is given the option of killing darth vader and succombing to the dark side, or sparing him and going on to find peace in the light side. Obviously the miller clause is to represent me chosing the path of the dark side, but it doesn't make me scum. How hard is it to understand that I was sure that after I had pushed so harad for the Hiraki Lynch, I would be dead soon, so I made sure not to let my shot go to waste.

As far as me still being alive when I was sure I was going to get offed, the argument of me still being alive is crap and anyone who's played this game before knows it. That's like scum-tactics 101, leave the guy alive that everyone expects to get dead.

I 100% fricking guarantee town losses if I get hung. Seriously, you need to get a grip of yourselves if you think I'm scum. It's paranoia paradise in here. You are coming up with all these fucking conspiracy theories about how I'm scum when you're ignoring the very obvious.

↑ kuribo wrote:Why do I want Wrath first? Because let's talk flavor.

Rodrigio Borgia = evil pope = godfather
Lord blazer = demon = scum
Sayaka = master swordsman = ???
Starkiller = RAISED BY DARTH VADER = ???
Daniel = a guy who can't remember his identy = miller
Purim = healer = doctor
Tassadar = killed himself to destroy the Overmind = suicide bomber
Shiki Masaki and Neku Sakuraba = partners in the game = neighbors
Nathan Drake = Treasure Hunter = Tracker
kdowns = Genie = really, it's a fucking genie, that could be anything

So with all that said, I'll give the rest of you a homework assignment:
Here's SpyreX's claim:
http://wiki.uqm.stack.nl/Arilou_Lalee%27lay

Discuss.

I'm really curious as to why you would go into such depths to explore Spyrex's claim via wikipedia and then just go "DERP! DARTH VADER'S APPRENTICE!" on mine. A simple wikipedia search would tell you Starkiller is just as much savior to the rebel alliance as he is their Bane in that game.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Galen_Marek

↑ WrathChild wrote:I 100% fricking guarantee town losses if I get hung. Seriously, you need to get a grip of yourselves if you think I'm scum. It's paranoia paradise in here. You are coming up with all these fucking conspiracy theories about how I'm scum when you're ignoring the very obvious.

how many more times are yo gonna break out the appeal to emotion?

↑ WrathChild wrote:That's like scum-tactics 101, leave the guy alive that everyone expects to get dead.

And that's why they killed MoI, am i rite

and god dammit, if you're gonna break down and go "HE ONLY VOTES ME BECAUSE OF FLAVOR" am i really going to have to go back and reiterate why i think you're scum?

again?


and AGAIN?

AND FUCKING AGAIN

i didn't even think of the flavor shit until just then, and i STILL thought you were scum

I thought you were scum back when MoI threatened to cut off my penis for thinking you were scum

bottom line is that you're scum, there's really no other way to put it!

flavor? No flavor? YOU ARE STILL FUCKING SCUM

also, force unleashed is a REALLY shitty game

Where do you get that MoI saying I'm town makes me scum?

Anyways, hold your rage for a moment. I want to talk to you level headed like. I think the evidence is pretty overwhelming that I am town, but whatever, we can disagree on that for now.

I like your point about spyrex being able to come up with something better than hider to win in MyLo. Now before I move on, I need to now something from Ray. It is absolutely critical he answers this ASAP:

@Ray: Were you notified that you were roleblocked?

↑ Kdub wrote:

Day 6, Vote Count #2

WrathChild (1)

- RayFrost

RayFrost (1)

- SpyreX

Seraphim (0)

-

SpyreX (0)

-

kuribo (0)

-

kdowns (0)

-

No Lynch (0)

-

Not Voting (4)

- Seraphim, kdowns, WrathChild, kuribo

6 votes available, 4 votes needed to lynch

Deadline is November 16, ~ 8:30 pm PDT

Is this 100% correct? There is an error, is it intentional?

Never mind, my bad

I thought Spy had voted me.

↑ WrathChild wrote:Where do you get that MoI saying I'm town makes me scum?

Anyways, hold your rage for a moment. I want to talk to you level headed like. I think the evidence is pretty overwhelming that I am town, but whatever, we can disagree on that for now.

I like your point about spyrex being able to come up with something better than hider to win in MyLo. Now before I move on, I need to now* something from Ray. It is absolutely critical he answers this ASAP:

@Ray: Were you notified that you were roleblocked?

EBWOP: *Know

↑ WrathChild wrote:Where do you get that MoI saying I'm town makes me scum?

when did i say that?

i said that i had suspicions that you were scum, but every time i expressed them, MoI claimed you were so fucking townie and that LLD was so fucking scum

what i'm saying is that he's not here anymore to stop me from looking into your behavior and claims.

↑ kuribo wrote:

↑ WrathChild wrote:Where do you get that MoI saying I'm town makes me scum?

when did i say that?

i said that i had suspicions that you were scum, but every time i expressed them, MoI claimed you were so fucking townie and that LLD was so fucking scum

what i'm saying is that he's not here anymore to stop me from looking into your behavior and claims.

That's fair enough. At this point I don't expect you to not look into the possibilities of me being scum. I really need to know Ray's response to my question.

Can we keep talking about stuff?

If Force Unleashed is so crappy, what's a good game in your opinion?

@Ray: Were you notified that you were roleblocked?

↑ WrathChild wrote:Can we keep talking about stuff?

If Force Unleashed is so crappy, what's a good game in your opinion?

And Force Unleashed isn't that bad. The second one is ass, though.

A good game? Alpha Protocol. Super Mario Brothers 1. Max Payne. Saint's Row 2. GTA: SA. Serious Sam. Doom. Doom II. I've put like 60 hours into The Binding of Isaac.

Eh, I have to leave to attend a staff meeting soon, but don't worry, my vote remains uncast until I sort this shit out in my head.

Binding of Isaac? I'll have to google that. Now that you mention it, the second one was a bit less exciting than the first Force Unleashed.

This is all cute except for one huge thing

Unless KDub is taking a new and exciting approach to night actions, you cant block a hider.

OHH SNAP