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Guys, I'm going to be LA for a bit. Had a little accident involving a mandolin making breakfast this morning. I have what's called a "partial amputation" of my right thumb and can't really type all that well. I'm reading and will post but my posts will need to be short and sweet.

Oh no

PLEASE get well soon Yates

In post 1751, Yates wrote:Had a little accident involving a mandolin making breakfast this morning.

That's like one of my worst fears.

in other news

Semi-meaningful, mainly for her awful hop onto the Luca wagon, but I will be reevaluating my positions in this game properly in the next 24 hours or so.

Mastin, talk to me about Damon. Im wondering if he hasn't been a huge blind spot in my peripheral.

I think Im leaning towards a Pisskop vote. He was scummy and the DV kills makes sense for it. Im guessing Talah was SKdVigd.

In post 1755, AngryPidgeon wrote:DV kills makes sense for it.

Err Zd* kill. Your avatars are both foxes :X

AP, explain what you mean about the Zd kill?

Im saying Pisskop was Zd's favorite lynch for a long time. And Zd got scum-killed. Pisskop was a scummy person in the first place.

You think scum would kill someone they were already trying to lynch?

I mean, if they knew they would flip town, and chose to push them during the day, why would they want to then flip them?

In post 1759, Snork wrote:You think scum would kill someone they were already trying to lynch?

I don't see why not? Zdenek wasn't getting lynched anytime soon.

No Talah. You will be mourned.

Also I have to say I'm relieved that I wasn't wrong about you. That would have killed me.

AP, I am also reconsidering my read on Damon, but I'm thinking of voting for you, so this is kind of awkward!

Nero, give me a short thing on why I should vote for PA.

I'll work on sorting my reads tomorrow.

In post 1742, Nero Cain wrote: Well, both you and Snork voted him right after the whole counter wagon discussion started so its an EXTREMELY reasonable that someone not privy to ya'lls thoughts would think this especially in light of any other reasoning. Though you calaim there was OTHER reasoning for this vote so you can quote it.

Also why are you more concerned with Thad thinking this but not me?

Is it that reasonable? I mean, would we start a counter-wagon on someone just because they did it too? That's just dumb, especially when you're not taking our reads in consideration. Would we start a CW on ThAd if we did not have a scum read on him? Well, I wouldn't. So to think that we'd start a CW on ThAd just because he had started one too, not taking into account our reads on him, is not reasonable at all. Add to that that he did knew we had scum reads on him, so it's not like he wasn't aware like you're suggesting.


His reaction was just bad and the only purpose it had was to discredit our votes on him based on something he "assumed" for no logical reason.

In post 1744, ThAdmiral wrote: I'm still waiting for these supposed actual reasons btw.

And don't try and pretend you didn't use the negative sentiment surrounding me because of my proposed counterwagon in an attempt to get a wagon started on me. Otherwise why vote me right then and not any time earlier in the day?

You're waiting, since when? You never showed any interest in the reasons behind my read on you until now. Well, this approach is actually one of them. You just don't seem interested in getting reads on people. Like you say, you're just waiting, waiting for people to do something "scummy" that you can throw against them. Your posts just don't show a town mindset.

I did not vote you because of your attempted Aptil CW. I voted you because at that moment I wasn't happy with either of the main wagons and Snork had expressed that he'd like your lynch too. So I decided to give it a shot. I must say though that I do think your suspicion of Aptil is BS, so yeah I didn't like that you tried to start a counterwagon on him, but it wasn't the act in itself that made me vote you.

As for my other reasons to suspect you:

In post 675, SnowStorm wrote: I don't like ThAdmiral. I didn't like the way he approached the bjc situation. His vote on him doesn't bother me as much as the fact that he seemed frustrated that bjc would get away with town reads, the only reason to be frustrated about that is if he's scum. IDk why town would express being so annoyed at bjc and the claim. His whole position on the matter doesn't make sense to me. Aside that there's nothing in his posts that make me lean town on him. Oh, also, I'm not thrilled about his reaction to the fake Vig. One second he was voting Z. the other he's kneeling before him praising the gambit. Too much.

^Here. Your approach makes no sense coming from town. You voted bjc for his scum claim, then you said it was a null tell, but you kept expressing frustration towards people town reading him. So if you were not voting him for the scum claim what were you voting him for? And if you really thought the scum claim was a null tell why did you only complain about the town reads and not the scum reads based on it?

That part about Zd is also interesting considering he just got killed.

In post 1750, Nero Cain wrote:

vote:PA

Come on, I know you can be more persuasive than that...

VOTE: aptil

How about a non-crappy wagon today, y/y?

for using deadline as an excuse to not post content (and that felt hammer felt like a kneejerk reaction to being pressured)

post 1733-1734 by mastin feel like trying to paint me, damon, and thad badly for the incoming mislynches. Although it could be town suspicious of the wagons. We'll see how mastin plays today.

Both of them being town means a lot needs to be reevaluated. I think aptil or RM are good options, as well as going back to Gant.

I have some notes I wanted to share but they are at home. Will post my updated reads/thoughts later tonight.

Also pa... where is the rest of your catch-up? Your analysis? Nothing to say except sniping at Nero for voting you?

BTW peeps

a Newbie game just ended and Luca and Joker were the scum and won

Newbie 1476 http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=38637

We had a Doc and a Cop (Doc died N 1), Cop was a newbie (Burn 209) who did not cop correctly. Instead of waiting til he got a guilty, he claimed cop on D 2 with an inno read on Notty, and lied that he had a cop clear on Luca. 3 person LYLO was Luca, myself, and Jake.

So yeah there was cause to see Luca as a scumspect on D 1 here in this game.

Nero I would like to hear more from you besides a naked vote on PA.

RM are you making the excuse for your vote on Luca that you were reading her based on a game you were in with her at the time where she had not flipped? Really?

A game where she supposedly was cleared?? And you had no reason to believe at that time the cop was lying since he flipped town cop... so you voted Luca based on that game where she was a "cleared" player...

Yeah that doesnt hold up Rach. That is the shittiest excuse ever, not to mention why are you bothering with excusing your vote? Do you feel guilty about it?

VOTE: RachMarie

In post 1762, DeasVail wrote:No Talah. You will be mourned.

Also I have to say I'm relieved that I wasn't wrong about you. That would have killed me.

AP, I am also reconsidering my read on Damon, but I'm thinking of voting for you, so this is kind of awkward!

Nero, give me a short thing on why I should vote for PA.

I'll work on sorting my reads tomorrow.

I don't see what is awkward about that
Nero has been talking about Rogers all of Yesterday, did you not care then?
This post just -feels- fake to me

In post 1766, 4nxi3ty wrote:post 1733-1734 by mastin feel like trying to paint me, damon, and thad badly for the incoming mislynches. Although it could be town suspicious of the wagons. We'll see how mastin plays today.

This paranoia is still probtown.

I don't know what to make of matinWKing the lynches. It felt wrong but its something mastin is easily capable of as either alignment. I guess I expected more fervor, but the V/LA is making mastin disjoint from the game anyhow. Like I -think- mastin is town based off her tone and attitude, but I realllly need more before I start getting paranoid.