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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:44 pm
by Medea the Alien
...Was it not a pretty obvious claim for everyone else?
Am I missing something?
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:44 pm
by jesusbuddhavrishnathebest
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:44 pm
by jesusbuddhavrishnathebest
↑ Medea the Alien wrote:...Was it not a pretty obvious claim for everyone else?
Am I missing something?
??? Am I? ffery told me I wasn't.
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:45 pm
by Medea the Alien
Like "debuff" in a bulbazak game screams pretty loudly a very specific subset of roles.
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:46 pm
by Murder of Crows
There was something he posted earlier, like near the start of day 2. I'll hunt it up eventually.
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:47 pm
by Murder of Crows
↑ Medea the Alien wrote:Like "debuff" in a bulbazak game screams pretty loudly a very specific subset of roles.
town roles?
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:52 pm
by Medea the Alien
That depends if you see bulbazak being a more cabd style game designer or a more jasont style game designer
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:54 pm
by Murder of Crows
What kind of mod do you see him as?
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:57 pm
by Medea the Alien
The latter.
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:11 pm
by eyestott
I haven't read up, which is what I do now. However, while scrolling down this page, I've seen a bunch of votes for a deadline extension.
I see no reason not to give a bit more time, so
vote for extension.
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:11 pm
by eyestott
I just gotta wait before I wake up properly.
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:27 pm
by Murder of Crows
↑ Medea the Alien wrote:Regarding ffery.... (I take it AP no longer exists and has been scattered to the winds) Nacho can I get in on this money back guarantee? Because I don't want this to be chef mafia all over again. That is actually a goo way to explain the approach I'm taking this game re: ffery. I don't want another chef mafia where she's scum and everyone else agrees she's scum and I sit there defending her like an idiot and eat a mislynch for it, as well as a blow to my arms race pride.
This feels a lot like that oh-god-the-paralyzing-paranoia card that scum-me played wrt you in that one newbie game. Because it involves not taking an actual stance on me.
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:31 pm
by eyestott
↑ Antihero wrote:regfan,
your case on MoC is factually true, but it effected me differently than it did you. what you called manipulative i thought was town. i'm a sucker for AtE and i tend to think it comes from town more than scum.
i'll do this though
VOTE: yonce
If there is a debuff, it would be best if it were only passed on to one person.
So, at the end of the day,
unless she's the lynch, can no one except for myself be voting for yonce?
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:33 pm
by eyestott
↑ yoncé wrote:And in case anyone thinks of voting me while I'm gone I'm not exactly the best compromise lynch.
Either shut up about it, or actually give us information.
Please stop with the "you'll be sorry". It's half-arsed, and I don't buy it.
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:47 pm
by eyestott
↑ jesusbuddhavrishnathebest wrote: ↑ eyestott wrote: ↑ jesusbuddhavrishnathebest wrote: ↑ eyestott wrote: ↑ jesusbuddhavrishnathebest wrote: ↑ eyestott wrote:Negatively affects me in a psychological way. Someone is scumreading me and I have no idea why.
Why does being scumread affect you?
Because I know they're wrong, and there's nothing I can do to convince you otherwise.
But why would you want to waste time and energy convincing just one person that they're wrong when you could be scumhunting instead?
You may have missed the post where I explain this.
95% of my mafia experience comes from face to face games.
F2F mafia is much less logical, much more gut based than Forum mafia, and bandwagons start much easier. Even if someone doesn't give a reason for a vote, or gives a bad one, people will generally follow on and vote the same person. My play style is still based around my Experiences with F2F, and as such, I always get cautious when I'm voted for. Ignoring a scumread in F2F is near fatal, so I dont. Most of you guys are mainly forum mafia players, but I'm not, so keep that in mind. I ain't like other people.
I don't think we ever finished this conversation. My bad. Yes, I understand that F2F and forum mafia are different. You clearly understand this too. So why does it seem like you're using your F2F experience as an excuse for scummy play online? If you are aware that they operate differently, and know that they need different playstyles/mindsets, then you should not be applying your F2F mindset to a forum game.
I'm not saying it's an excuse for me to be scummy. I'm saying that it's my meta.
I am slowly adjusting to forum mafia, though. using different mind sets for different mediums is easier said than done.
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:50 pm
by Regfan
Another sneaky work break.
Vote deadline extension
In case we don't get it vote; yonce
He's attempting to downplay my scum read on him while ignoring he detailed explanation I went into earlier completely. Also I highly highly doubt he's a strong town pr, it existing is something that 1000000000000% does not work with role, especially with an ic in the game.
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:51 pm
by Regfan
Does not work with my role*
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:52 pm
by Regfan
Aldo eye throwing himself forward yoeisk having 'negstive' stuff done to him reads town.
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:38 pm
by Medea the Alien
Aaaaand a sudden silence sets out over the game.
Regfan are you just copy pasting my logic about eye now?
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:50 pm
by eyestott
↑ jesusbuddhavrishnathebest wrote:eyestott
Scum for the reason I explained in my previous post. He's aware that his F2F playstyle translates weird online, but instead of adjusting, he is using it as an excuse for behaving with a scum mindset.
Thats a bit of a misrep. Where did I say that F2F was a reason I could act scummy?
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:54 pm
by eyestott
↑ jesusbuddhavrishnathebest wrote: ↑ Murder of Crows wrote:What you're saying makes sense. I got the oddest feeling when I was interacting with him yesterday about putting down some reads or saying something about another player that wasn't about how the player suspects/pushes him. Maybe it's just a personal approach thing.
I know he's capable of posting content that isn't so narcissistic and I'd very much like to see it but I think him focusing on reads based on how players interacting with him is more a sign of him being lazy than it is a sign of anything else.
I dont think lazy is the correct word. Lazy implies a voluntary lack of motivation/participation. Mine was not voluntary.
However, I do see what you mean. I need to stop looking just at how I interact with players. Thats actually something that Ive only just realised I do.
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:55 pm
by eyestott
↑ jesusbuddhavrishnathebest wrote:Also, regarding eyestott's real life situation, yeah it sucks and I'm sorry bro, but I absolutely will not fall for the "real life = town" trap. Sorry if that sounds really dickish. I'm sure you're not doing it on purpose, but it's happening anyway.
PEDIT: This is a continuation of Skrew's reads. I was interrupted as I typed this post, sorry sorry
I'm not asking you to. Im giving an explanation, not an excuse.
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 3:26 pm
by F-16_Fighting_Falcon
Vote: Deadline Extension
Will get to this in a few hours.
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 3:49 pm
by jesusbuddhavrishnathebest
↑ eyestott wrote:I'm not saying it's an excuse for me to be scummy. I'm saying that it's my meta.
I am slowly adjusting to forum mafia, though. using different mind sets for different mediums is easier said than done.
Hey, that thing I just said you're doing, you know that thing? The thing you just said you're not doing? You just did it.
↑ Regfan wrote:Aldo eye throwing himself forward yoeisk having 'negstive' stuff done to him reads town.
No dammit it's the kind of thing a townie OR A SCUM TRYING TO GET TOWNREAD would do.
↑ eyestott wrote: ↑ jesusbuddhavrishnathebest wrote:eyestott
Scum for the reason I explained in my previous post. He's aware that his F2F playstyle translates weird online, but instead of adjusting, he is using it as an excuse for behaving with a scum mindset.
Thats a bit of a misrep. Where did I say that F2F was a reason I could act scummy?
Oh man it'd be great if you explicitly said it. But yeah no not a misrep try again.
↑ eyestott wrote:I'm not asking you to. Im giving an explanation, not an excuse.
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:05 pm
by Regfan
Nacho there's 4 situations 1) yonce and eye are scum together, we knows it's fake. 2) eye is town and yonce is mafia and genuinely believes he's being helpful doing it 3) is the same as 2 but both town and 4) eye is mafia and yonce is town, is this case he'd know yonce is telling the truth and would have no reason to risk something happening to him.
So either way eye lynch makes zero sense over a yonce Lynch.