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Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 12:28 pm
by Flames682
But I'm paranoid you could be lying

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 12:30 pm
by Flames682
No lynch (6)
NK (5)
No lynch (5)
pie/tier dies (3)
NK (2)
Endgame

Fuck

No lynch (6)
NK (5)
Lynch Boon/seo (4)
pie/tier dies (2)
Endgame

God damnit

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 12:31 pm
by TierShift
I understand.
What was your other explanation for perish song again?
Who do you suspect killed FF if my action got redirected to pie?


As an extent:
Who led the wagon on scum?

Stop being paranoid and start using your brain.

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 12:32 pm
by TierShift
Did you get a result n the end, flames?

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 12:35 pm
by Flames682
?

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 12:37 pm
by TierShift
Your tracker result.

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 12:38 pm
by Flames682
@Mod, what does a pokemon knocking out another pokemon (e.g. Pidgeot's ability) do? Is it just another word for kill?

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 12:39 pm
by Flames682
tier i got no result

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 12:43 pm
by TierShift
As in, you were blocked? I find that hard to believe, seeing we already have a scum who flipped JOAT with roleblock as one of his abilities.

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 12:45 pm
by Flames682
I am not entirely sure.

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 12:48 pm
by Ursaring
Flames682 wrote:
@Mod, what does a pokemon knocking out another pokemon (e.g. Pidgeot's ability) do? Is it just another word for kill?

That is correct.

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 12:52 pm
by Flames682
Okay cool. Willing to lynch Seo or Boon today then.

VOTE: Seo

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 12:55 pm
by TierShift
Is your 'no result' different from 'didn't go anywhere'?

Seo, why did you redirect me to pie?

UNVOTE:

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 1:01 pm
by Flames682
Mod said yeah it's different

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 1:04 pm
by Flames682
Seo is it possible for you to redirect someone's action onto themselves?

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 1:28 pm
by Bert
Flames682 wrote:Could be a global delayer cause I got no result


Flames682 wrote:Mod said yeah it's different


Who did you track? I must have missed it

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 1:31 pm
by Bert
Seohyun wrote:I'm pretty sure I can redirect kills, it says their move so I assume it's whatever ability they have that has a target.
Maybe I should ask the mod to clarify though.

And I'm poliwhirl, wooo doubleslap

I'll be back later tonight to read more carefully


let me think an hour
yes maybe you should!

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 1:32 pm
by Bert
it's like in one of those old Ffery runecast games, where an ability cop cops someone, and they only get ONE random ability of another player, which isn't the implicating ability. And then the town understands it as him getting full abilities due to not making sure his fellow townspeople understand what his results are

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 2:30 pm
by Flames682
Pie what are your abilities besides psychic?

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 2:51 pm
by pieguyn
Flames682 wrote:Pie what are your abilities besides psychic?

Kinesis
self-watch. I used it on N2 and no one visited me. would have used it N3 but I forgot Seohyun didn't actually have Psychic so I attempted to use Psychic instead to confirm it -.-
my pokemon is Alakazam.

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 3:00 pm
by pieguyn
the first thing that comes to mind re: tracker is ascetic. Flames, who did you target?

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 3:03 pm
by pieguyn
also, I can think of at least 2 possibilities for TS's role that isn't what he claimed:

-> vanillaize target/self after 3 phases
-> remove target/self's votes after 3 phases (probably not bc scum already had one role to remove votes, but putting it here for completeness)

any kind of negative utility role would fit to some extent, really

so attempting to confirm him as town or plan based around the role he claimed is not a good idea

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 3:07 pm
by pieguyn
TierShift wrote:Pie, the explanation for my trajectoryless play is dus to the mod. My whole game consisted of posting crap, reading ISO's and updating reads. That's how I got notmaf lynched. There was no trajectory before, because I couldn't be arsed to do a thing earlier. I felt bad, read some ISO's, found scum and pushed it. You can say other players pushed him before me, but you will have to agree that notmaf wasn't even considered as the lynch before I started pushing him. I didn't attempt to link notmaf and fish, that's just bullshit. I put fish forth as a secondary scumread.

I haven't read the rest of what you said.

...... you're spouting bullshit here

it'll take me a bit to explain why. please hold

TierShift wrote:Look, pie, lynching me will do not a single thng about your timer.

if you supposedly think I'm town, then a post like this shouldn't exist

you're really trying hard to discredit/silence me, aren't you?

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 3:33 pm
by Seohyun
@tiershift, During night phase I read through everyone's isos and looked at the vote counts and determined that scum must be in {tiershift, pieguyn}. Took me a while to decide if I should go tiershift -> pieguyn or vice versa. bert and flames' votes of vettrock didn't feel like bussing and I doubted that formerfish took away his own vote. A little doubtful of boonskiies now but most of my read of boonskiies came from how I though wisdom played like town that grew more and more apathetic.
@flames Don't see why not, why?

Also, the mod said my target's factional kills are redirected. All abilities done by my target are redirected, so unless something bizarre happened with other people's abilities interfering that means tiershift couldn't have done the NK. Thoughts?

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 3:36 pm
by pieguyn
Seohyun wrote:Also, the mod said my target's factional kills are redirected. All abilities done by my target are redirected, so unless something bizarre happened with other people's abilities interfering that means tiershift couldn't have done the NK. Thoughts?

is your redirect "all abilities that _target_ user x target user y instead" or "all abilities that _are performed by_ user x target user y instead"?

even if it's the former, I wouldn't clear TS just yet, pending what Flames' answer to my question is, and even then I would be very apprehensive about clearing him. play > everything else in role madness