Mini Normal 2081 — My First Game! [Game Over]

[skitter30]

Yeah i'm probabky going to switch but i want to see a vc first; that's why i asked for one

[chennisden]

Also doc enabler isnt a particularly safe claim for scum, why would you even think that?

if it doesnt exist scum can cruise with it?

also as for the meta - ongoing games and other dont talk about stuff.

[Metta]

Hi!

Can someone give me a quick summary of the game?

[Exilon]

huuuuh... that would be very very hard but I'll try in a sec after I do the following

[Metta]

I'm slowly reading through but I'm slow.

[Metta]

Sky feels scummy before replacing.

Skitter, Robb, LUV feel town.

[Exilon]

I read Dann's ISO
VOTE: Dannfloor

Things are sticking out, ... obv not definitively.

This is the main one:

By your own logic you should be voting Skitter here, you've even hard TR Chennis more significantly than you did Skitter. You flailed on the votes in 1697 and 1699, but you parked on Chenn. Stated reason that his TR weakened following Menalque's claim. Which shouldn't be enough to offset your read on skitter, which has been consistently on the scummy side for you the entire game, and who you have never townread explicitly, ever. And yet that's where the vote lies.
Sure at one point there was a mention that Skitter shouldn't be D1 lynch because she's a good enough player + you could be wrong, but you did vote for her and:

You haven't been really pushing or trying to sort Skitter during this game despite the read, your attention has always been on someone else as the forefront; first LUV, then Cinn, then back to Pisskop momentarily after his claim (which was also really weird), then you progressively move to Menalque, and then you jump over to Chenn.

Questions:

1635, if pisskop was already sorted in your mind and we weren't even really talking about it, how is it necessary to repeat or reiterate the point here with a totally different argument? "Look, he's even more towny than before" is very weird; is your belief on his claim actually not that strong? That's not what it felt like before?

Where does 1704 come from exactly? I'm assuming it's a comment on IIRC Cinn suggesting that scumteam. I find it weird that you would project your thoughts here onto Skitter, instead of just outright saying it, especially if in your eyes, she's been null-scum at best. Just a nitpick I guess, but the fact is that the point actually stands that based on your ISO you could very well be partners here, so the point has some merit and this post just feels like an attempt at downplaying its validity!

1706 feels weak. Also, the associative you made was "the push on Skygazer is prolly all town"; if Chennis flips scum then Skitter is 100% town? Is that your logic here? But then who's his partner? The rest are all *townreads*!

[Cinnamon]

My tinfoil hat theory team rn is skitter/Dannflor. I do still townread Dann here though so it's a bit crazy

No offense but like where do you even come up with these things from?
Like why do u think this might be a thing?

Exilon did explain a bit of that logic but it was the fact that dann has been scumreading you pretty consistently but hasn't put pressure on you at all and chose to vote for chennis over you there that pinged me.

[chennisden]

everyone is townie

everything is way too hard to read

everyone is tow-NIE

and it's ruining my dreams

[Exilon]

sorry, for 1706 I got things mixed up. Skygazer was replaced by Pisskop, and Hitei was replaced by Chennis. So the associative here was "if pisskop is scum, the rest is all town". So how about the opposite; couldn't skitter be scum pushing on a wagon on a townie? Is this not a compelling reason to further grind on Skitter, especially because you were already scumreading then in the beginning for it.
The point here that stands is why go back to the first three reads of the game when so much has changed to justify such a vote, and if indeed you want to go back to the first reads, how would you ignore Skitter in this argument, which is also one of the first?

[skitter30]

I dont really think i'm interested in dann today really

[Exilon]

My tinfoil hat theory team rn is skitter/Dannflor. I do still townread Dann here though so it's a bit crazy

No offense but like where do you even come up with these things from?
Like why do u think this might be a thing?

Exilon did explain a bit of that logic but it was the fact that dann has been scumreading you pretty consistently but hasn't put pressure on you at all and chose to vote for chennis over you there that pinged me.

Wow, the timing was really convenient

[skitter30]

Yep

[Exilon]

No shade at all, sometimes coincidences just happen

[chennisden]

I dont really think i'm interested in dann today really

+1

[Cinnamon]

I mean you could say I'm just going off of Exilons thoughts but you can see me pushing on Dann for voting chennis over skitter when it happened

[chennisden]

That line of thinking also happens to be very towny

[Exilon]

Hi!

Can someone give me a quick summary of the game?

OK SO

The game was more or less stagnant although there were a few interesting moments with a pseudo-wagon on Skygazer (now Pisskop), some pressure on Menalque, and then some 1v1 between me and Cinn

At some point after Pisskop replaced in, created a bit of confusion, and then he punched the whole gametstate into the upper stratosphere by claiming doc
The game scrambles and we have a group of people that believe, a group of people that dont really buy it but eventually we all move on to focus on other endeavors,
There's a 1v1 with me and Cinn, Cinn pushes back on people pushing him, we get a lot of info from that,
Chennis has a 1v1 with Skitter in which Chennis claims *macho* *something*;
Eventually as we approach this moment the focus shifts back to Menalque who at L-1 claims town doc enabler,
And now we're trying to decide how the fuck we can proceed under these circumstances.

[Cinnamon]

I'd prefer a lynch on skitter over Dann personally, I see Dan as scummy mainly due to associatives with skitter but I think skitter is more likely to be scum outside of a Dann/skitter team.

[Exilon]

@Metta pt2

BECAUSE TWO OF MY STRONGEST SCUMREADS CLAIMED SOMETHING AND THE OTHER IS UNIVERSALLY CONSIDERED TO BE TOWNIE AND IS ALSO TOWNLEANING FOR ME NOW AND I AM OUT OF SCUMREADS UP IN THIS JOINT


So this game has actually been pretty fucking interesting imo so far.
Oh and also I don't know if this is relevant to you or not but your slot is also universally regarded as being incredibly townish.

[skitter30]

@chenn irregardless of your alignment i think you should work on not misrepping people, because you're repeatedly pushing things that either didnt actually happen or are changing the context, and if you're not doing it on purpose as scum, it's really hard to look charitably upon your posting when you're retroactively changing what happened

And it really frustrates me

[Cinnamon]

@chenn irregardless of your alignment i think you should work on not misrepping people, because you're repeatedly pushing things that either didnt actually happen or are changing the context, and if you're not doing it on purpose as scum, it's really hard to look charitably upon your posting when you're retroactively changing what happened

And it really frustrates me

Ty skitter for the sheep

But seriously, I'm not sure if it's intentional or not but your play style can be frustrating at times.

[skitter30]

I dont get what you're referencing there, or why you think my playstyle is frustrating, sorry

[Metta]

Eventually as we approach this moment the focus shifts back to Menalque who at L-1 claims town doc enabler

This sounds fake.

[Metta]

Skitter feels town to me, why are people suspicious of her?