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VOTE: Lucky Luciano
@bob: Since when was that a thing?

I'm actually more confident in bob being scum. He seemed really opportunistic in his vote on me
VOTE: bob

In post 1752, midwaybear wrote:I'm actually more confident in bob being scum. He seemed really opportunistic in his vote on me
VOTE: bob

What do you think makes it opportunistic?

7 players alive.

What do you think opportunistic about me voting for one of teh playesr i dont town read?

Dont you think it woudl be normal for a townie to vote for either of their two scum reads?


Why did you not vote adora who has also said they would vote you?

Midway how is your own vote on lucky not opportunistic. You have yet to say why you scum read lucky. Why did you scum read lucky enough to vote?

what is you read on all the players alive

It shoudl be clear to all that

clidd/alort is day one town read
dave/lucky a day 2 town read
wake day 2 town read
tweet day one town read

plus i beleive mech means tweets, luckys and wake slots are all town.



What do you find oppoertunistic about me having 4 town reads?

Who do you think if your genuine is my partner and why?

can you explain the mechanics part of ur argument?
Because Wake said noone is cleared.
It seems like you and lucky are more eager to use a "mechanically cleared" argument which I don't really like. However, if you can explain it, I will reconsider.

ive posted enough on mech side of things. If you want to see read back.

Basicly it amounts that if any of the pr are scum then there is hole in town power.

As all 3 are confirmed visiting roles. So if one is scum then that means scum have another pr.

So 3 and half town power roles would be need to balance out the 2 scum power roles. (thats assuming its simply half role split) e.g. 2 shot or even/odd gating.

3 positive pr simply wouldnt be enough.

rolecop, watcher, gated neigbourizer - too weak
rolecop, babysitter, gated neigbourizer too weak.
rolecop, babysitter and watcher slightly too weak

another recent game to comapre balance with


town roles

rolecop/neighbourizer
watcher/voyer
tracker/follower

vs

scum joat (strongman, rolestoper and roleblocker)
scum back up

here you have 3 town pr but all of them strong each with medium pr and weak pr combined

while scum only had one rolestopper and one roleblocker shot. With back up role if first died before they were used

scum power 0.5


town power 4.5 vs 0.5

town has more power as its in 3 roles and not 4. scum has back up use so there half role is stronger

the town rolecop is actualy a cop but one that gets inno one one scum.

So if we only had 3 pr

rolecop, watcher neighbourizer.

Those 3 roles would actual need to be stronger


so scum can only be in the vt claims


As for one pr to be scum not only does it weak town but also makes scum stronger. makign teh game scum sided and normals always tend to err towards townsided

So midway what is you read on lucky that overcomes the missing town power enough for you to think he is scum.

wake simpyl thinks dave /lucky is scum based on the fact 3 roles visited hectic.

Although 2 town and one scum v three town roles visiting.

Are just as likely as each other

Also mid why do you think come day two your slot would go to much effort to a try and push wake as scum watcher and b. push that alort could still be scum with chemist

idk maybe he was accounting for the possibilities? I didn't read day 2 at all, but is there a reason that it was scummy?
I can see where you are coming from with the mechanics argument, but I don't think it clears anyone which is why I don't like you and lucky saying that.

what you dont like how im already town reading the pr slots before and mech analysis?

I don't like treating people as clear just because it might make sense "mechanically"

In post 1754, bob3141 wrote:Midway how is your own vote on lucky not opportunistic. You have yet to say why you scum read lucky. Why did you scum read lucky enough to vote?

what is you read on all the players alive

Apparently tweet and clidd are locktowns for an unknown reason I'll choose to believe
like clidd said before LL vs Wake and bob vs adorable are both not tvt arguments(and they don't read like svs either)
I SR LL and you more than Wake and adorable

In post 1765, midwaybear wrote:

In post 1754, bob3141 wrote:Midway how is your own vote on lucky not opportunistic. You have yet to say why you scum read lucky. Why did you scum read lucky enough to vote?

what is you read on all the players alive

Apparently tweet and clidd are locktowns for an unknown reason I'll choose to believe
like clidd said before LL vs Wake and bob vs adorable are both not tvt arguments(and they don't read like svs either)
I SR LL and you more than Wake and adorable

And why do you scum read more than adora.

A player that has never answered half my questions.

In post 1764, midwaybear wrote:I don't like treating people as clear just because it might make sense "mechanically"

In post 1765, midwaybear wrote:Apparently tweet and clidd are locktowns for an unknown reason I'll choose to believe
like clidd said before LL vs Wake and bob vs adorable are both not tvt arguments(and they don't read like svs either)
I SR LL and you more than Wake and adorable

Why do you have me as locktown then? Clidd is a half-mechanical, half-obvtown thing too.

Essentially, there were literally only two wagons D1. Clidd and Chem(scum). Also, i independently townread clidd. Also i think he sort of townslipped in 1493 where he linked posts from a PT notes thread

I didn't know why you and clidd were locktown, and it makes it easier for me if I treat you as such.
Since the consensus was that you both were locktowns, I just assumed that.

well there's my clidd reasoning that i suspect at least a few people share. You'd have to ask bob why Wake/Morning is locktown. Oh yeah, you're voting bob

If bob is scum, i think it's more likely that his partner is Lucky than not, but im still entertaining midway-profii/bob as well. Today Lucky and Bob have gone against the grain and claimed that all of the PRs should be locktown for the most part, and therefore scum is inside {midway-profii/Adorable/bob}. If bob is scum with a VT claim, i think its more likely that bob is partners with profii as compared to adorable. Their exchanges don't feel like theatre

I'd be more comfortable voting Lucky if it came down to it, rather than bob. Lucky's flip would tell me a lot more. Bob flipping green/red could mean multiple things, but Lucky flipping red would more or less confirm Lucky/bob as the team.

Ok, I agree with the part that the bob/ador exchanges don't really feel like scum theatre(it was one of the only parts I reread). Yeah, I would be fine with voting LL or bob. I see myself as a town sheep rn

In post 1770, midwaybear wrote:Ok, I agree with the part that the bob/ador exchanges don't really feel like scum theatre(it was one of the only parts I reread). Yeah, I would be fine with voting LL or bob. I see myself as a town sheep rn

So what makes you think it me that is scum rather than adora.

What do you think of adora through out the game?

idk
tbh, I am just sheeping the locktowns(clidd and tweet)
if they vote adorable, I will probably too
I just thought that her frustation in her argument with you felt too genuine to be scum

In post 1772, midwaybear wrote:idk
tbh, I am just sheeping the locktowns(clidd and tweet)
if they vote adorable, I will probably too
I just thought that her frustation in her argument with you felt too genuine to be scum

What made you feel it was genuine?


So you only want to vote adora if you forced. Only if you cant get them to vote for some one else.


If you think adora is town why would you ever say you would vote for her?

I read the "argument" and it felt to me that she sincerely felt that you were attacking her. I don't think you actually were, but it is reasonable that she thought so. I don't really think scum would try to use the emotions card because that is sorta cheap.
Yeah basically
Because she is not "mechanically cleared"