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Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:32 pm
by Madonna
You have my reads prior to the mass claim and you have seen my opinions on the path we have to take. Other than discussing what is the best use the power roles, I have little else to say because lynching the VTs is my plan. You know, the one that puts me at risk so that town may win, so you can comfortably sit there and lob acronyms at me while you stress that you do not want to work with town.
Here, let me lob a bomb your way, if you want analysis:
there are no confirmed town in this game
. Everything is a matter of trust. There is no proof for any of this. We treat the power claims as givens because we trust in both the players and in likelihoods. All of these claims could be argued against. The vigilante is an excuse for a second mafia, the tracker claim handily fell out when someone claimed to have misread rolestopper as roleblocker and it is odd because we know the alien was, and the rolestopper may have stopped the second night nightkill but someone realize they could take credit by claiming to be a universal backup. This is all strictly possible. These are all things we could consider.
But we do not, because paranoia destroys a game, because we learn to trust some players, some more than others, and some
over
others. We make a choice when we say NDMath's claim is valid and Nahdia's is not. We decide that our votes matter, that we can tell when someone votes sincerely or maliciously, that a mislynch can come from a good place, that a player's general performance says that one play does not make him scum. So because of all that, we individually decide and agree that our town, as a group, must be right when we claim we have confirmed town, and I choose to believe that NDMath, NorwegianboyEE, and you, votato, are confirmed town, even though I have explained why that is not a thing. So I have been making a lot of decisions to trust in this game, to analyze that which I have been presented, and there has been good and bad, and when I need to decide what is right or what I need to assume is true, do not come to me and accuse me of shitty scumtells when I do not bring shit to your door when you imagine you are above scrutiny and do not need to be pro-town. You cannot tell us who you abducted when you are dead, you horned ass.
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:43 pm
by votato
oooh spiceyyyy
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:53 pm
by popopopopopopo
feel like ndmath is confirmed 100% no?
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:16 pm
by Madonna
Devoid of content, scumtell.
Yes and no. Two deaths happen every night. NDMath claiming to be vigilante explains it. There could be two mafia. That too would explain two deaths every night. There is no proof a second mafia exists, and no scum is going to come forward to helpfully explain that yes, there are two factions in the shadows. So then you would ask, why would NDMath claim vig if there are two scum, and you would say because NDMath is scum, and he is claiming vigilante to be town, and we are all fucked if this is true. So it is not true. Because it is 1) complicated and 2) relies on an amazing scumclaim and 3) that is not generally how the game works. So it is easier to say NDMath is confirmed town. Apply it with NorwegianboyEE, and nothing mechanical supports his claim, but we love him anyways (tm), confirmed town. Again with votato, I already explained this, it is acceptably true, so confirmed town. I wanted to explain I have weighed a lot of options, discarded things not deemed worthwhile, versus serving them up as a scum and insisting any of it a case. So to be called out on one agreeably non-essential post in a lull, not thrilled.
I have already voted, I have already shared my scumpool picks, still waiting on others to catch up, still waiting on votato to play his best town.
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:52 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
GOTCHA!
Norwee was pocketed!
Give a nickname to your new pokemon?
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:59 pm
by Madonna
I will name my newest pokemon Norwee.
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 1:02 am
by NDMath
There are three votes on Tom right now. (Norwee, madonna, midway)
Hang Tom
vig midway
If Tom is mafia alien word
If Tom is town don't say who you're going to alien.
I'm ready for hammer if votato is.
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 1:25 am
by votato
VOTE: alora
Good luck
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 2:26 am
by midwaybear
I shouldn’t be vigged...
Oh well. Pretty confident in a scum flip, so we should be able to clear some vt claims tmrw
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:03 am
by votato
NDMath if you change your mind about targeting, feel free to say so, I'll follow whatever you say until the thread gets locked.
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:25 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Is this scum just giving up or are we walking into a mislynch?
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:26 am
by votato
pretty sure my vote was the hammer, so the silence is telling
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:26 am
by midwaybear
option A
pedit: really?
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:27 am
by midwaybear
L-1: you me norwee madonna
if alor flips scum, vig word. It seemed like he was trying to deflect
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:30 am
by votato
no we are vigging you midway. unless ND explicitly says otherwise in the thread. I'm going to base my action around whatever ND's most recent announcement of his intentions are. its a terrible idea to just hope that myself and ND will manage to target different people and also target effective people without coordinating. we are likely to wind up with a repeat of night 2.
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:31 am
by midwaybear
why am I being vigged over word?
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:31 am
by Aloratom
VOTE: midway
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:36 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Because Word is townier than you? Can you name anything you've done that's townie this game apart from not being tracked anywhere N3?
Sorry to be so harsh, but this is PoE at it's finest here.
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:37 am
by midwaybear
ok, I just don't want to die because I'm town(opposite of Alor)
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:38 am
by midwaybear
i townread stan1ey in the beginning if it counts for anything
yet I still voted for him
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:38 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Alright, so how about we make the plan that if Alor flips town then NDMath turbo kills you. But if he flips scum he'll target someone else?
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:39 am
by midwaybear
im town regardless of his flip
ndmath should vig word upon scum flip madonna upon town, but whatever
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:43 am
by votato
In post 1769, midwaybear wrote:i townread stan1ey in the beginning if it counts for anything
yet I still voted for him
yes, because voting for townreads is something town does... you still havent given a single thing you've done thats townie. you havent attempted to figure out who any of the scum are. you havent done anything except proclaim yourself town.
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:44 am
by midwaybear
you can look at my posts beginning of day
I think those were pretty town motivated?
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:48 am
by NorwegianboyEE
This is like the "How do you do fellow kids" meme in mafia form.