Mafiascum.net

It looks like day 1 was a last minute lynch right?

In post 1744, NoPowerOverMe wrote:is the general consensus that the gera lynch was town or scum motivated?

Scum motivated obviously

In post 1738, maxwell wrote:UNVOTE:

Yeah, I don't know. DoctorPepper's vote squicks me. I don't like the way he interacted with the BM slot either.

This post gets a major yikes from me dawg

In post 1752, Not_Mafia wrote:

In post 1738, maxwell wrote:UNVOTE:

Yeah, I don't know. DoctorPepper's vote squicks me. I don't like the way he interacted with the BM slot either.

This post gets a major yikes from me dawg

Same.

DP is pretty town so don't know why people keep going back to this well.

Probably because I'm very inactive and I only post here and there.

TBH I get very lazy

In post 1732, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:

In post 1719, bob3141 wrote:@farside

It should have been clear I was outright calling you out for shading me. Trying to dismiss my entire post as ate. Something i've seen do scum do to me recently to get me worked up. In the end it won the game as I stopped being objective and snapped on midway for his bad play even though I was 100% sure cat/adora slot was scum and uncertain midway at the time..

To be clear, you were talking about HK50 here right?

yep was meant to be @HK

In post 1755, DoctorPepper wrote:Probably because I'm very inactive and I only post here and there.

TBH I get very lazy

I know it’s been a while since we played together, but i cant remember you doing this at all during our games.

Cat Scratch Fever wrote:bob's recent posting has been better

can you tell me what about his recent handful of posts you liked better relative to everything else in the game?

In post 1754, Green Crayons wrote:DP is pretty town so don't know why people keep going back to this well.

You're going to have to explain that because I don't see it at all.

Here's a summary of DoctorPepper's interactions with the BM slot: in 248 just says he disagrees with bttle mage's tossed out scumreads (didn't really seem to be townreading notscience before that so it's a bit strange). 260 is a soft defense of battle mage, with "too jokey to be scum" and likes him "not being super defensive", but says his posting has been "incoherent". 262 asks if people have a meta read on battle mage, doesn't really have a follow up. 567 says BM replacing out is NAI. 939 says "Hate on BM's content all you want but pushing Clidd for this is kinda bordering on desperate". 943 again criticizes the push on clidd. in 1592 on day 2 he says "I'm actually kinda shocked that porkens flipped and was targetted this night. I did not understand your case on him at all", which I actually kind of like? It's not impossible to fake that sentiment but I like the admission of being wrong. But it's fairly notable there was basically 0 interaction or mention of DP from either battle mage or porkens.

I'm probably not opposed to the theory of flipping people who were off the clidd L-1 wagon and that includes Dunnstral but I don't want to just lazily default along with the popular vote, think a more thorough examination is warranted. I need to go back over people because my overnight reads got upended. I'll be looking at HK 50 next.

In post 1758, Malakittens wrote:

In post 1755, DoctorPepper wrote:Probably because I'm very inactive and I only post here and there.

TBH I get very lazy

I know it’s been a while since we played together, but i cant remember you doing this at all during our games.

You played with me when I was a college student with a lot of time.

Now I'm a corporate slave lol

Also Maxwell that case sounds so cherry picked to prove your point

It's "cherry picking" to highlight every single interaction you had with a flipped scum slot? Lol okay.

Hello beautiful people, I'm going to be very concise.

Today was not easy. I worked 8+ hours today in ~92°F weather with no shade and direct sun. It was not fun among other things I'll spare you from hearing.

"Now HK, that's fluff. Where's the goods?" Well you see my organic friends, I'm not finishing the post I've been working on tonight. Its half-written and I can't write anymore due to exhaustion. The comprise I see is that I sleep and actually produce something compensable while you threaten to policy lynch me in 24 hours upon failure to deliver it. Unfortunately as a robot, I care little for your rights and am forcing your cooperation with this endeavor. I hope you understand.

This post is obligated to have game related info. Therefore: I believe HK 50 is town. This is a read I feel heavily strong about. Additionally, I find YesWeakUnderYou, the relative of NoPowerOverYou, to be scum for enciting word play with naming conventions.

So, in a similar vein, here's how HK 50 interacted with the BM slot: 166 has him making a joke about battle mage being useless in response to battle mage making a vote on him because of his wagon size and post restricvtion. Maybe an unlikely S/S interaction? Asking him for an explanation in 168 less so. 207 has him questioning why malakittens finds battle mage scummy. 209 asks battle mage about his read on green crayons. 307 explains his meta as "you have to look at overall motivation in his posts in accordance to the gamestate" which isn't very useful (though I somewhat liked the admission to sheeping in that same post). Says he hates reading his posts in 609. defends clidd's absence in 709. 713 again comments on the slot with "Clidd really has nothing AI. BM I dont really have a read on." 728/729 is dismissing the possibility of a BM/votato team. In 731 says "I can be convinced of scum BM despite disagreeing with the votato pairing" which is probably his worst line. 738 again calls stungun's push on clidd "WIFOM bullshit". 1022 says of BM: "Even with my suspicions he was trying to play against/off meta, the case didnt sway me hard. It warrants hearing his replacement speak at least". From there, there's not a whole lot of interaction with porkens on any level. refuses to vote him in 1545/1547. expresses alarm that the counterwagons of the day all jumped to voting gera in 1549 but then walks it back in 1558. Again very little comment on anything porkens says.

Independently, I think HK 50 reads townish overall but from this perspective it doesn't really look good. There's a few townish looking posts but his resistance to reading the slot in the later day is bad. I'll look into Dunnstral tomorrow as well, fully aware he doesn't look great interaction-wise either.

My vote on HK 50 is purely from the vote count analysis perspective.

In post 1763, maxwell wrote:It's "cherry picking" to highlight every single interaction you had with a flipped scum slot? Lol okay.

Yeah, because you're assuming

Porkens reads:
#143: BM votes HK50...biggest wagon.
#157: BM votes himself...trust Not_mafia
#158: BM votes GC. won't say reasons
#160: BM scum reads GC, Mala, Ns, and HK50
#184: BM says GC is playing "safe and cautious"
#193: BM slight townlead on HK50 due to posting style.
#343: BM votes Votato. based on shotgun me
ta analysis. Nobody is behind GC wagon. Townleadeding Dunn.
#360: BM reaffirms he thinks Dunn is town.
#367: BM asks farside to wagon GC.
#403: BM responds to Dunn saying BM played similar as town by saying Dunn played different as scum.
#404: BM says votatos slip is a town lean.
#405: BM says scum-Dunn tries harder.
#518: BM doesn't like GC's case on him. votes: GC

So based on this, I have Dunn and HK50 for scum, and GC, Mala, Farside for town. but I haven't
read past #518 so...

I see there is a wagon currently on Dunn.

VOTE: Dunnstral

Hey guys, I believe the above poster may be aligned with an anti-town faction

Because BM was clearly town and he was promiting town!Dunn.

@Dunn I see Newbie 2004 didn't work out so well for you as scum.

In post 1770, Dunnstral wrote:Hey guys, I believe the above poster may be aligned with an anti-town faction

NPOM/votato isn’t likely scum. Who else you got?

Are we townblocking yet?