In post 1589, Infinity 324 wrote:Was town before, but stopped being towny towards the end of the day which worries me.
What was not Townie by the end of the day?
His aggression and sorting from earlier in the day turned into a very forgettable presence
. It felt like he was
saying stuff just to say it
. The progression on horse, from thinking she said some towny stuff to going back to scumreading her didn’t feel
particularly genuine
. The response to flea’s case felt...
not as flippant as I expected
. The case was bad enough imo that I think most would be really frustrated by it as town and
guillo instead seemed to give more validity to the case than it had
.
Ok! I'm at home, let's do this!
1) I was the second highest poster on D1 (i think) where I scumhunted and push the slots that seemed the most suspicious to me. I was very far from being a forgettable presence!
2) I never say stuff just to say it as either alignment, I was split between my logical side scum reading Horsewoman and my heart side townreading her and that manifested in my hesitation to cast a final vote on her in various occasions. I ended up casting it on her because in my opinion she failed to town up, I don't know the reasons she had, she did say she was going through a mental breakdown (paraphrase) but I thought it was AtE. If I would have yeeted Tangeloo instead of Horsewoman if such wagon was possible but we all know that would have been a misyeet as well.
3) Flea's long wall post was ill intended and it was obvious that they were trying to provoke me, I tried to keep it respectful but I'm no goddamn saint, it pissed me off and I acted reacted accordingly. You say it was not as flippant as you expected and I say,
what do you know about me to have expectations about my behavior as a person?
And since when being allegedly disrespectful to someone is alignment indicative?
4) We all (except mafia) are trying scum hunt to solve the game to win. To me, everyone has validity, their opinions matter whether they are wrong or right, bad or good, because those inputs will help us solve the game. So I don't like it when you say that I seemed to give more validity to Flea's case than it had, it was valid for me and I had to address it. How is that bad eh?
1. Post count means nothing, at all. And just because you have a high post count doesn’t mean your posts hold any weight in people’s heads, thus can be forgettable.
2. That was a very complicated way to say you were fence sitting on them and chose they were more likely scum than town.
3. No comments
4. The first sentence screams LAMIST but is probably NAI.
1) I doubt my contributions were ignored.
2) What's fence sitting?
3) Why?
4) What first sentence? "Ok! I'm at home, let's do this!" ? It's NAI.
3) I had no additional thoughts on it
4) First sentence of your point 4
Mathblade
Guillotina
Momrangal
JacksonVirgo
Marky Mark
No team/ coasters
Toogeloo
Flea the Magician
AGamblingPig
While we're working out claims, I think this is a good time to place this here and see what people think about it
1) Why is Vax randomly there with nobody else
2) Do you think scum is spread in all three sections
I think mom wants our opinions.
And G’s claim but the latter prolly not gonna happen and probably going to have to flip him.
I’m asking Momrangal :c
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:36 pm
by Momrangal
That's about where my thoughts are going, and I'm working off that assumption when I am pushing for who to claim.
If there are multiple scum in a single group, I think that group is most likely going to be in the defensive team, with one contrary scum on the defensive team.
My working play is Nora/Vax/G or Vax/G/flea
So
Pedit: Vax was on the defensive team but like, also played offense so Im not exactly sure where to really put him
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:36 pm
by Momrangal
I do want opinions though
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:38 pm
by JacksonVirgo
Honestly depending on the mafia setup I wouldn’t be surprised if scum isn’t in one of the defend/offence at all.
DGB/Noraa in the defence
Gills/Math in the offence
All of the final section
That’s my scum picks in each if there was some in each. Mark and Infonity are mimicking town games very well to be scum. I’ve heard Mark finds it harder as scum so their town-tell is >rand accurate town-tell rather than a false one.
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:40 pm
by Momrangal
I don't think DBG is scum here, I don't think Math is scum here
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:41 pm
by MathBlade
In post 1757, Momrangal wrote:I don't think DBG is scum here, I don't think Math is scum here
It’s okay JV forgot you’re mason.
He’s just on a delayed cycle.
He’ll pick all that up d3 prolly lol
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:42 pm
by MathBlade
I agree on the Mark Infinity town part though to be fair.
In post 1757, Momrangal wrote:I don't think DBG is scum here, I don't think Math is scum here
It’s okay JV forgot you’re mason.
He’s just on a delayed cycle.
He’ll pick all that up d3 prolly lol
Bruh, I’m trying my gosh darn hardest :C
Also I don’t fully appreciate the shade/discredit
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:50 pm
by JacksonVirgo
In post 1757, Momrangal wrote:I don't think DBG is scum here, I don't think Math is scum here
I’m not saying they are or aren’t I’m saying they’re more likely in the group if I had to pick.
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:52 pm
by JacksonVirgo
Guill/Math interactions make me feel it’s a TvS
DGB pushing for mass-claim I didn’t like, even if you have information about the missing kill they should just say it except push for a mass-claim.
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:53 pm
by JacksonVirgo
In post 1759, MathBlade wrote:I agree on the Mark Infinity town part though to be fair.
So you’re thinking Gill is the only possible scum in the offence section?
You’re probably town, no elim aka Infinity prolly town horse is town.
This means that we probably have a minor scum wagon on Noraa or a complete whiff at start of D1.
Means we probably have two scum voting somewhere if not three so one scum max in Pig/G.
Scum probably don’t combine here this early
So Vax + Nora out.
G/Vax(or Nora)/Flea maybe?
Spitballing thoughts here
So, you cased Horsewoman based on wagon movement and failed. Your whole case on horsewoman was based mostly and not all on wagonomics. And instead of re-evaluating your approach, you are gonna cased me based on wagonomics?
You’re probably town, no elim aka Infinity prolly town horse is town.
This means that we probably have a minor scum wagon on Noraa or a complete whiff at start of D1.
Means we probably have two scum voting somewhere if not three so one scum max in Pig/G.
Scum probably don’t combine here this early
So Vax + Nora out.
G/Vax(or Nora)/Flea maybe?
Spitballing thoughts here
So, you cased Horsewoman based on wagon movement and failed. Your whole case on horsewoman was based mostly and not all on wagonomics. And instead of re-evaluating your approach, you are gonna cased me based on wagonomics?
What happens when i flip town then? Hmm?
If you flip town then either A) All scum voting or B) Pig is scum.
I don’t think you do and this is much ado about nothing.
There’s pretty much only one claim that makes you a townread at this point and if you were town you’da done it. I reached out to you before and crickets so pretty sure you’re just scum here.
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:19 pm
by MathBlade
VCA changes as new data comes in.
As I said earlier it’s not perfect, but it can help who to push and find scum or not.