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I know, I got mixed up.

In post 1746, Galron wrote:I claimed the green check on NPOM's slot.

In post 1747, Galron wrote:I claimed investigative Night 1, before bugspray or gamma were in the hood.

You claimed invest during N1? Why would you do that?

Why would you invest NPOM who was one or the townier slots in the game? Why not invest Frogster who you seemed more suspicious of?

What other claims have been made in the hood?

Or even invest one of Bugs/Lunar, which would have provided a lot more info given their wagons D1.

NPOM seems a really weird target. Imo perhaps the worst one you could have made, if you’re a Town invest.

And did you simply claim ‘investigative’ or something more specific?

Did Amelie claim or hint at her role in the hood?

In post 1751, Luca Blight wrote:

In post 1746, Galron wrote:I claimed the green check on NPOM's slot.

In post 1747, Galron wrote:I claimed investigative Night 1, before bugspray or gamma were in the hood.

You claimed invest during N1? Why would you do that?

Why would you invest NPOM who was one or the townier slots in the game? Why not invest Frogster who you seemed more suspicious of?

Out of 12 players to choose from, I narrowed it down to wanting to confirm the so-called town bloc or the people who had claimed, and NPOM overlapped, so he was a good place to start.

You can figure out why I claimed and the timing of the claim if you try hard enough.

As far as other claims, I'll leave that to the other hood members. I have more results, yes, but I don't want to let the cat out of the bag yet. You asked about Amelie, she played very close to the vest.

In post 1756, Galron wrote:

In post 1751, Luca Blight wrote:

In post 1746, Galron wrote:I claimed the green check on NPOM's slot.

In post 1747, Galron wrote:I claimed investigative Night 1, before bugspray or gamma were in the hood.

You claimed invest during N1? Why would you do that?

Why would you invest NPOM who was one or the townier slots in the game? Why not invest Frogster who you seemed more suspicious of?

Out of 12 players to choose from, I narrowed it down to wanting to confirm the so-called town bloc or the people who had claimed, and NPOM overlapped, so he was a good place to start.

You can figure out why I claimed and the timing of the claim if you try hard enough.

As far as other claims, I'll leave that to the other hood members. I have more results, yes, but I don't want to let the cat out of the bag yet. You asked about Amelie, she played very close to the vest.

The other investigations you made are claimed in the hood though?

I think it's fair if I state there's no information on a N2 result from Galron

In post 1756, Galron wrote:
You can figure out why I claimed and the timing of the claim if you try hard enough.

So again you're being cagey as to your motives. I can see a possible Town and scum motivation for revealing your supposed role N1, and right now the scum motivation seems to make more sense.

As Town, it would be foolhardy to put your trust into the hood when you could be roleblocked/killed if one of them is scum, and it could also lead to a false positive, given you were widely TR D1 and could have have been targeted by scum anyway even if the hood was pure.

As scum, you want to pocket the hood and build trust. 'Confirming' an already Townblocked player is a small price to pay for that.

In post 1756, Galron wrote: I have more results, yes, but I don't want to let the cat out of the bag yet.

In post 1758, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think it's fair if I state there's no information on a N2 result from Galron

So why would you be prepared to reveal the NPOM result to the hood, but not the supposed N2 result?

What are you waiting for exactly? As Town you'd be presuming you'd be NK, especially if Bugs flips Town as you seem to think they will, so why would you withhold this info?

: Can you confirm that Amelie left no hints as to her role?

What did NPOM claim? I don't remember that.

only thing in hood amelie hinted was `trenall if you are protective please protect galron tonight` but no other reference to her role

This game is stalling and someone should hammer bugs.

yeah why is bugs not limmed yet

Surely Galron has to reveal his supposed N2 result?

I don't think so. I asked him to clear me in the hood last night and it seemed like he was trying to avoid saying no
the more i think the more it's him
VOTE: galron

oh he later claimed to be a neopet (the ice cream cop)

I’ll fail the challenge xD
I noticed a new thing about myself. Apparently I have a big tendency to avoid problems...
aaaaaaaaaand I might have a tendency to defend myself with “no I’m right, you’re dumb.” type of arguments when angry
which is kinda toxic. I don’t know how to deal with it yet but I’ll try to fix it somehow.

The conversation about lunar kinda broke me
I just kept running away for 2 days because I didn’t want to read anything more about that, which would cause me to have to argue more and get more frustrated

that’s not a perfect attitude to play FM.

but anyway, I’m back. I can’t say that I’m over it because I’m not. I will likely break down and try to escape again if I have to argue about it more so lemme just ignore it fn.

I could have worked on casing bugs/luca while I was basically avoiding the thread but my brain didn’t want to accept that I’d have to read the new posts then, sooooooo here we are

(I still didn’t btw xD)
(it’s kinda silly how this works but w/e)

lemme just focus on what I want to do. (yes, writing the cases that I’m already a week late with is included there. if you want to hammer before that, I won’t argue. if I manage to write it, it’s good. If not, I guess not. I already failed pretty badly so I don’t really have a right to complain here. Let’s just play)

I can handle myself ejji. I think most people realize that I'm Town. I appreciate the extra effort though.

some of galron’s posts in the hood, I think make him very townie (the stuff I placed in “area boxes” is paraphrased. I’m pretty sure that I can’t quote posts from the hood so this is probably the best you’ll get.)

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At the beginning Galron suspected that both my slot and amelie are town. After bug claimed backup neighbor, he started trusting them as well (because that’s not a role scum would fake). So he openly claimed that he thinks the hood is likely clear of scum.
After saying that he claimed.
(all of that happened D1, near the end of the day)





1. getting town-reads on both amelie and my slot D1 (from my pov both townies) and claiming an investigative role is a VERY townie move imo. It makes his claim way more valid (and claiming TI D1 as scum, without any info about the setup, is a risky thing in itself. Another thing I’d like to mention is that the setup MAKES SENSE with galron’s claim. IF he is scum, he would have to make a REALLY risky move, which coincidentally worked.)

2. the frustration/bewilderment in the last post I paraphrased felt really darn genuine. Coming from a player like galron (who clearly isn’t the type to focus on faking town-tells like that), I’m decently confident that it should be AI.

and I think I figured how to explain my read on lunar after all. I have no intention to argue, if that’s not enough to convince you, so be it. I have it in my mind so lemme just get this out and ignore this later on for good

A player who seems to be a minimalist and dislikes explaining their reads, is less likely to suddenly fake their emotions or things that require precise control of their tone.
If someone gives off a vibe that writing explanations is a pain, faking subtle emotions and regularly adding small town-tells to their posts will likely seem even more of a pain to them.
This makes players like those less likely to fake stuff like that as scum. (most of the time)

Seeing a wide range of emotions (in places that make sense) from a “minimalist”, likely means that that player didn’t have to focus on faking their emotions = that they were genuine.

That’s why I didn’t want to agree that lunar’s posts could have been faked.

This also applies to my read on galron (some of their posts seem tonally good as well, especially the one I quoted (about him giving up if there are 2 scum in the hood)) and both those players give off the vibe of explaining only the bare minimum.

This CAN fail if a person is just a really good player... but from my experience, this rarely happens xD

In post 1770, Lunar Martian wrote:I can handle myself ejji. I think most people realize that I'm Town. I appreciate the extra effort though.

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welp.... I jsut wasted my time then lol
w/e
I’m gonna post it anyway

Luca Blight wrote:

@Other hood members

: Can you confirm that Amelie left no hints as to her role?

she didn’t. I’m pretty darn sure

btw, I’m working on my read on bug rn if anyone cares

..........is bug being scum-read because everyone except for luca refused to ISO-dive him?


it might not mean much coming from me because I was defending him from the very start but his iso looks kinda good tbh :/
I’m NOT tunneled. I swear that I’m trying to rethink my read carefully

how the heck is he getting tunneled so much lmao