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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 2:28 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
I think i'd rather do either of A50/Holiday today.
Also i think it was April that said "that would only work if me and A50 was partnered or something" and that was in fact exactly what i've been considering up to now. So i'd rather just pressure April if A50 did turn out to be mafioso.

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 2:31 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
Also competing wagons are Gucci :up: :up: :up:

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 2:35 pm
by MegAzumarill
Tracer.Bullet Replaces Gamma Emerald

Deadline:(expired on 2021-11-23 21:35:34)

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 2:45 pm
by MegAzumarill
Vote Count 1.0.11
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Holiday (5) April Ludgate, Almost50, Dwlee99, Enchant, T3 [E-2]
T3 (2) Something_Smart, Tracer.Bullet
April Ludgate (2) Holiday, Andante
Enchant (2) osuka, geraintm
Not Voting (2) Hella Jeff, NorwegianboyEE


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Tracer.Bullet Replaces Gamma Emerald
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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 3:17 pm
by Dwlee99
In post 1737, Andante wrote:give me a reason
In post 1738, Andante wrote:cause I can just come back at you and go "you should vote A50"
I think he is scum

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:55 pm
by Tracer.Bullet
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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:58 pm
by Tracer.Bullet
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VOTE: April Ludgate

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:16 pm
by Enchant
I believe mafia would push with reason "lol it's panicking scum" not "Well it possible town but let's still elim without forcing claims."

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:36 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
How did we lose Gamma and end up with this.

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:41 pm
by Hella Jeff
gonna miss gamma
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In post 1740, April Ludgate wrote:Why is Holiday scummy? They were semi active during portions of the game,
but they were also being the type of player that wasn't really saying anything unpopular or unfavorable, and when people tried to think of any actual things Holiday had said, nobody was able to remember, which naturally means they were off of people's radars.
bolded feels like case fluff, doesn't exactly seem like a scumtell and i guess you know that with the use of "the type of player that"?
regardless it doesn't feel applicable since when you came across someone who actually had holiday on their radar
because
of their takes and you just said:
In post 1268, April Ludgate wrote:oo, the fightback against Holiday makes me feel good about my read.
makes me feel like through your lens, they were damned regardless of how many people liked or remembered what they were saying, which doesn't feel right when it's the bulk of the post
In post 1753, MegAzumarill wrote:Holiday (5) April Ludgate,
Almost50
, Dwlee99,
Enchant
, T3 [E-2]
but ill note that in this wagon there's exactly 2 people that i townread. super confident in a50, azaa/enchant is up there also even though enchant hasn't done any cool tricks for us
in theory there should be like ZERO doubt that this flips red? because i dont townread either of the PR claimers but both of them could, at face value be telling the truth. esp knowing that one likely solves itself tonight
so that begs the question that from my perspective, who are the scum in this wagon? :wink:
(fuck if i know, all of that talk about the flimsiness of d1 reads has me hurting)

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:55 pm
by Tracer.Bullet
In post 1758, NorwegianboyEE wrote:How did we lose Gamma and end up with this.
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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 7:06 pm
by Hella Jeff
aprilwagon has only like, townreads
i'm feeling some kinda way right now
to the point where i feel like blindly sheeping
but the consequences of my actions......
i don't feel like i've done enough work to be part of aprilwagon right now
why did something interesting have to happen so close to deadline

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 7:08 pm
by Dwlee99
Jeff can you vote holiday? Thanks

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 7:10 pm
by April Ludgate
Scum have to push me here because I become essentially conf town after Holiday flips.

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 7:11 pm
by April Ludgate
It's pretty clearly Holiday and Gamma slot.

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 7:12 pm
by April Ludgate
@Hella Jeff - idc bout your read on me, but how do you see Dwlee and not town read them? The miller claim is not coming from scumDwlee.

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 7:14 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 1763, April Ludgate wrote:Scum have to push me here because I become essentially conf town after Holiday flips.
Are you the best slot to push as an alternative to Holiday?

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 7:14 pm
by April Ludgate
Hella Jeff and Andante are the manipulated ones being banked on.

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 7:15 pm
by April Ludgate
In post 1766, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 1763, April Ludgate wrote:Scum have to push me here because I become essentially conf town after Holiday flips.
Are you the best slot to push as an alternative to Holiday?
Sure, i dont mind being pushed. i wouldn't say im the best slot, but it makes sense because im the one pushing Holiday, so scum have to take action to fight back.

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 7:17 pm
by April Ludgate
At the end of the day, they're pushing me because I'm pushing Holiday, and i think that's obvious, I am pushing Holiday because I think they are scum.

Regardless of your paranoia, Norwegian, you can feel it deep down that I'm town, I can sense the struggle of not wanting to let me get away as scum, but you definitely sense that I'm town. Which is good for me to pickup, because it's inherently townie of you.

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 7:18 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
But from my POV it seems like there would be ample other room to try anyone else if the goal was to simply redirect from Holiday?

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 7:18 pm
by Hella Jeff
In post 1765, April Ludgate wrote:@Hella Jeff - idc bout your read on me, but how do you see Dwlee and not town read them? The miller claim is not coming from scumDwlee.
it is really one of those things that i should take at face value?
genuine question

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 7:18 pm
by April Ludgate
Holiday, Gamma slot, Hella Jeff is a solve, but Idk, I think Hella Jeff's town in my gut, but if I didn't, I'd have them there.

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 7:19 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
Or is limbait not existing in this game.

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 7:21 pm
by April Ludgate
In post 1770, NorwegianboyEE wrote:But from my POV it seems like there would be ample other room to try anyone else if the goal was to simply redirect from Holiday?
Why? They have to weaken me because Im dead set on killing Holiday. If they try to push elsewhere, it weakens them because I'm pushing them, and they have to split the difference between relieving pressure off them and onto someone else.

By creating a 1v1, it forces people to take sides, and it's more likely people think I'm scum manipulating the game, but frankly, you have to absolutely believe me to be hardcore Open Wolfing if I were scum, which fine, I'm bold enough to Open Wolf in certain playerlists, but those are generally ones that are favorable towards me.

Not only do I have multiple people this game that could call me out, the people who don't know me as well are the types of players to not understand and push me in that regard.