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Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 1:46 am
by Ginngie
In post 1743, mykonian wrote:
In post 1739, Ginngie wrote:Okay idk if this makes sense and is kinda game related but not really, do you find it refreshing playing with a bunch of people, who for the most part haven't played with before? I can't meta anyone here if I'm honest except maybe Dunn but it sounds foolish to try and meta dunn anyway.
I never did meta all that much. I got "in tune" with a few select people? Where their thoughts made sense and but it stopped being that way if they were scum. I joined at the end of where you could consider MS to be small, but I read a lot of those games, I think from this game MS kind of feels small again? Where it becomes that everybody kind of knows everybody because you keep playing the same people. Or maybe people happened to join this game with lots of people they like. So clearly I'm a bit strange in how I can't tell Bell is town, or Enchant is going to leave anyway, or that Noraa tends to be a dominant voice? So I have some catching up to do in that sense.

But otherwise, coming back nothing much has changed really. It's still the same game, It seems like people still hunt by similar tells. I think I might be standing out somewhat but I was always a bit of an agent of chaos in my games, so idk if it's that or that I'm oldfashioned. Thankfully Andante did some of the chaotic stuff day one, so I didn't have to :)

It's fun playing with some new people and figuring out how they go about the game. And it's somewhat fun to relearn the (forum) game.
I stopped playing meta because whats funny is when I play with mastina, she's the opposite alignment I end up reading her as. Almost a 100% accuracy of me reading her incorrectly. I'd literally go hey if I townread mastina, you shouldn't.

I will say I'm seeing that like every few years there's a new pocket of players that all play and get to know each other well. I think enough time has passed where I'm starting to see who the new consistent players are and how they're interacting with each other. I will say it's starting to make me feel old seeing join dates of last year and I've been playing since a decade ago. What i personally like is that coming back, I don't really yell or curse at players anymore. Going for more of a nacho route where I try to remain calm and advocate for talking through and through. I will say I do like your style, like this game i've decided to encourage my pair to try and eliminate me; which, ngl, is a new play for me and kinda went fuck it lets see how it plays out. Also 100% honesty, I kinda tailor my play based on the mod and idk, I hosted Pooky for one game and this kinda play is what I feel like what Pooky would want in his game so I'm going for it.

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 1:48 am
by Ginngie
I'm so damn good at pagetops

Also Enchant, repeating back what I said doesn't really help me sort you. I'm asking about your read on Andante and how that developed during the posts I quoted.

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 1:50 am
by Enchant
In post 1751, Ginngie wrote:I'm so damn good at pagetops

Also Enchant, repeating back what I said doesn't really help me sort you. I'm asking about your read on Andante and how that developed during the posts I quoted.
I always scumread Andante.

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 1:52 am
by Dunnstral
The scumreads I had on a lot of players have mellowed out

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 1:54 am
by Ginngie
In post 1746, Enchant wrote:You doesh't advocate for my elim, you only supporting what is done by someone else.
This would be true if I saw Dunns case, then said yeah I agree with this, and just said enchants scum.

Instead, at least to me, I've brought up original questioning and it's not even really a case. It's a bloody question.

Like I'm not really advocating for anyones elimination(well the Andante thing but I explained that) yet because I've barely sorted anyone. I'm literally trying to sort you so excuse me for not rushing into things.

P-Edit: In the 5 times you mentioned Andante, two were in jest, the rest is saying to eliminate her or a blank scumread. I've read your ISO and I couldn't find anything explaining this read.

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 1:55 am
by Enchant
In post 1754, Ginngie wrote:
In post 1746, Enchant wrote:You doesh't advocate for my elim, you only supporting what is done by someone else.
This would be true if I saw Dunns case, then said yeah I agree with this, and just said enchants scum.

Instead, at least to me, I've brought up original questioning and it's not even really a case. It's a bloody question.

Like I'm not really advocating for anyones elimination(well the Andante thing but I explained that) yet because I've barely sorted anyone. I'm literally trying to sort you so excuse me for not rushing into things.

P-Edit: In the 5 times you mentioned Andante, two were in jest, the rest is saying to eliminate her or a blank scumread. I've read your ISO and I couldn't find anything explaining this read.
Andante is always so happy, i scumread for it.

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 1:58 am
by mykonian
In post 1750, Ginngie wrote:I will say it's starting to make me feel old seeing join dates of last year and I've been playing since a decade ago.
yes, I remember you. I imagine you don't want the old account discussed?

I don't think we played much anyway. Maybe the odd large?

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:09 am
by Ginngie
ya know hilariously enough my advice to Andante to not be seen as scummy is to calm down with the !!! and all caps because people generally think it's fake or ignore it.

P-edit: If you know the account yeah you can talk about it, cuz I reminisce when I created the Democracy hydra of like 20+ players. The only thing I dont discuss is why I made a new account, everything else is fine. Yeah it may have been a large. My favorite was joining Recks game as a replacement during the night phase, deadline got extended 24 hours, read the whole game, formed some reads, and then ended up being the mafia night kill. I died in a game where I didn't even post and IMO never felt more confident in my townplay since. Really tho, I think we both have seen each others names floated around, but not really interacted with; so it's dope to be able to play with you.

If I'm honest I don't really have a good read on you but I feel like it would be dope to have a PT with you if we get to choose that every cycle.

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:25 am
by Bell
In post 1717, Dunnstral wrote:So you are scumreading me because I made and you think that I used too many words to explain why I think you are mafia?
Yes.

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:30 am
by Andante
In post 1709, Ginngie wrote:Okay quick note idk wtf Andantes deal is but I think its gamethrowing that they want to leave the game as soon as possible. I really dont get where that mentality comes from either alignment.
Im not throwing nor do I appreciate this accusation.

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:34 am
by Andante
In post 1744, Enchant wrote:
In post 1741, Ginngie wrote:After first ten pages of catch up this is where I'm at:

Town: Dunn, Andante, Mala
Not town: Everyone else

dunn because I said so, Andante I've stated clearly and Mala is more townlean but townlean isn't scum so.
RIP only 4 townies in game.
LOL ENCHANT

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:41 am
by Bell
Both you and the player you replaced have enough posts in the game that I sort of doubt it could be considered game throwing to leave quickly. There’s info to make an informed (if bad) decision.

I’m also just curious if they do it, given someone said they could, then said they couldn’t and then they tried to leave anyway.
Like a dog with a leash. :3

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:42 am
by Enchant
Don't lol on me

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:44 am
by Bell
The tyranny of time and space on doggos will never be forgiven.

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:51 am
by Bell
Currently leaning to pair with fire.

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:51 am
by Andante
In post 1761, Bell wrote:Both you and the player you replaced have enough posts in the game that I sort of doubt it could be considered game throwing to leave quickly. There’s info to make an informed (if bad) decision.

I’m also just curious if they do it, given someone said they could, then said they couldn’t and then they tried to leave anyway.
Like a dog with a leash. :3
Can we please not even discus me “throwing” I’m not. sure I haven’t read every post of the game, but I’ve read a lot, I have reads.
meanwhile we have Ginngie saying that I should be convincing bell… well excuse me, IF YOU READ THE GAME AT ALL, you’d see I literally tried that last night, bell went “nope” and then I was like oh yeah bell TRs prism.

so like can we not throw around the term throwing? thanks… this week has been stupid rough, and this has only been adding to me stress lately… this isn’t my maf play, and well a PT of like 3 more throwinng accusations… like seriously… can WE JUST PLAY THE GAME…. thanks

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:52 am
by Andante
In post 1764, Bell wrote:Currently leaning to pair with fire.
that makes exactly 0 sense.. what part of Cephrir is scummy? also if that’s your plan can you at least wait 12 hours to let me towncase ceph?

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:54 am
by Bell
I’m trying to gauge ginggle’s response to a cogent counter argument Andante.
But sure, I’ll drop it.

Work work work. Sigh.

Bai all.

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:54 am
by Bell
In post 1766, Andante wrote:
In post 1764, Bell wrote:Currently leaning to pair with fire.
that makes exactly 0 sense.. what part of Cephrir is scummy? also if that’s your plan can you at least wait 12 hours to let me towncase ceph?
Please refrain from talking about sense with me.

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:48 am
by Lukewarm
In post 1764, Bell wrote:Currently leaning to pair with fire.
I know that this is a situation where you hold sole power, but I don't think that a single person is currently advocating for that to be your choice lol

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:49 am
by Lukewarm
Where is Datisi?

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:51 am
by fireisredsir
In post 1764, Bell wrote:Currently leaning to pair with fire.
why is ceph scum this game

ive seen some of the comments you've made but i feel like they could apply to ceph every game

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:02 am
by Lukewarm
In post 1699, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 1694, fireisredsir wrote:i don't know who i want to die this phase tbh
to follow up on this: luke, do you feel that what I've done this phase (or ceph, or probably others too) is significantly different from what myko has done? if so, in what why? and if not, why single out myko for it?
I felt like I saw you working towards an answer.

I remember you commenting on one of my posts. I remember you pushing Dunn about his line of questioning with Andante. You were the other person I saw who caught that Myko would be a dangerous choice for Bell to propose to.

And Cephrir engaged with me on my Myko read, and has expressed opinions on pairing with Andante, and I liked him being contrary on the dunn pushes prior to Dunn's enchant case.

I don't remember where Myko has weighed in on literally any options.*

*Just went back to his iso, and the only takes I am seeing are: He liked dunn's effort. His dream kill is you (fire) but in a wishy washy way.

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:09 am
by Lukewarm
In post 1757, Ginngie wrote:ya know hilariously enough my advice to Andante to not be seen as scummy is to calm down with the !!! and all caps because people generally think it's fake or ignore it
If andante shows up to a game and starts only posting with correct capitalization and punctuation, I think I would scum read her for it.

Bad advice lol

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 5:12 am
by Andante
In post 1769, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 1764, Bell wrote:Currently leaning to pair with fire.
I know that this is a situation where you hold sole power, but I don't think that a single person is currently advocating for that to be your choice lol
I mean, how does Bell hold sole power? the person bell wants has to accept. and it really looks like bell is only going "who do I stand the best chance at survivng long game with" cause notice how Bell wants nothing to do with me cause all I've done is "IM LEAVING!!!" bell is trying to find the least likely person to leave tbh... I think I'm good with bell not taking anyone, cause all this mocking me? like bell isn't taking this seriously, I was asking a genuine question, like, I strongly TR ceph, I'd love to know why bell is CONVINCED ceph scum, I think fire never leaves the dance, which is why Bell is trying to go there, and notice how bell isn't actually trying to help sort any of enchant dunn luke mala.. instead "oh yeah I'll take fire!" like what... it was initially "I'll take prism" like, I think I'm pretty obviously town here, bell never once said he wanted to pair with me - and I don't want that to happen, I won't accept now.

umm Bell isn't giving me good vibes, the mocking me isn't helping at all, like, Bell is basically if you take all the reasons I SR fire AND MORE... so yeah I'm good with Bell leaving the dance tbh