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In post 1737, Save The Dragons wrote:

In post 1729, Venus and Mars wrote:

In post 1679, Gamma Emerald wrote:Oh
I thought a DM potion could make that possible

In post 1693, Gamma Emerald wrote:does JK potion also prevent pain potions on the JK target from showing?

Gamma sounds uninformed.

uniformed in mech =/= uniformed in alignments

You would have a scumteam to help you with that though, unless you’re going to argue that the entire scumteam doesn’t understand mech?

~M

In post 1738, Save The Dragons wrote:{kitty, gamma, venus and mars} contain at least one scum, who knows maybe 3

I was actually thinking I was wrong about yoi before this post. It’s extremely obvious by this point that I can’t be scum or it should be to you since I don’t think you’re this terrible at reading me. But you saying all 3 is extremely suspicious in itself.

I am not scum. I think this is Kitty town meta and you arguing that Gamma could seriously be uninformed mech scum is whack.

Now had you disputed what I had said about that it would be different but afaik from your play, you’re not a particularly moonlogicky type of thinker, so you would know that you either disagree about me saying Gammais uninformed about mech or you don’t but it makes no sense for you to argue that an entire scumteam would have to be mech uninformed.

So, I’m thinking maybe you could be scum because this take is bad: both because of your read on me and the logical ludicrousness of thinking that hypothetical Gamma!scum could seriously be uninformed. How does that even make sense to you?

In post 1750, Venus and Mars wrote:

In post 1737, Save The Dragons wrote:

In post 1729, Venus and Mars wrote:

In post 1679, Gamma Emerald wrote:Oh
I thought a DM potion could make that possible

In post 1693, Gamma Emerald wrote:does JK potion also prevent pain potions on the JK target from showing?

Gamma sounds uninformed.

uniformed in mech =/= uniformed in alignments

You would have a scumteam to help you with that though, unless you’re going to argue that the entire scumteam doesn’t understand mech?

~M

you are assuming a lot

Now, I know that you didn’t specifically say that but obviously you can’t think the entire team could not be mech informed, right? So assuming one scum is mech informed, you think they wouldn’t inform all of their teammates?

That’s why I say, you either dispute what I said about Gamma being mech uninformed or you can’t think he’s scum because both of these things don’t go together, unless you are going to seriously argue that the entire scumteam, could seriously be uninformed about mech.

So what is it?

A) I’m wrong.
B) You are.
C) You’re scum and therefore arguing this in bad faith.

Because it’s 100% one of the three.

you're completely wrong

scum can just not talk about mech with their people
OR
scum can just fake not having talked with their people

uniformed about mech tells us NOTHING about alignment

and any assumption that scum would have talked mech is an assumption

you're just wrong about this and nothing's going to convince me you're not so i don't know what to say

just kill me and find out that all my weird opinions come from a place of truth already

i dunno i don't want to argue today i'm feeling like crap

scum either bussed me because i'm scum or tried to kill me because i'm town

and no one thinks that's relevant so i dunno what else to say

Why would a scumteam not talk about mech?

Like that would be really really stupid. Did you read the scum pt in FFIV? Because we discussed everything in there. Now granted that’s a different kind of setup and we didn’t understand how optimally navigate the raids but this otoh would have to be straightforward to at least one scum and that scum would make damned sure that the entire team would understand how their potions worked.

So, I don’t see how I’m wrong unless you think either there’s an entire team who doesn’t understand mech or that whichever scum(s) do would not share it with their team.

i've been on scumteams that didn't talk mech

you also just ignored

In post 1754, Save The Dragons wrote:scum can just fake not having talked with their people

I won’t claim to be above faking uninformed on mech but I would aim to be more aware of it as scum because you kinda have to be to do well

no one is above faking uniformed on mech as scum

you could also be entirely genuine and asking genuine questions in the main thread having not yet talked about everything in the scum thread

In post 1760, Save The Dragons wrote:i've been on scumteams that didn't talk mech

you also just ignored

In post 1754, Save The Dragons wrote:scum can just fake not having talked with their people

No I didn’t and of course that’s true but my point still stands. Do you really think it’s possible that if Gamma’s scum, he didn’t discuss potions with his entire team?

That’s why I say you either think I’m wrong about Gamma being mech uninformed or you don’t.

If you think it’s somehow faked then your argument isn’t illogical but if you honestly believe that he’s truly mech uninformed and scum, then something really bizarre would have to be going on with that team.

So your theory will possible but highly unlikely. But in this type of setup, I don’t see how unless you have an entire mech uninformed team - assuming at least one scum is mech informed, they don’t share it with the team.

Sure a team could fake that but that wasn’t the issue. You can’t logically agree that Gamma is both mech uninformed and scum, especially on d2.

D1, is more plausible because no flips and no claims yet but the scumteam would logically have discussed all this. Do you seriously not get my point?

In post 1761, Gamma Emerald wrote:I won’t claim to be above faking uninformed on mech but I would aim to be more aware of it as scum because you kinda have to be to do well

Well that’s my argument to STD. I’m saying his argument makes very little sense.

yes i do not get your point because you are wrong and nothing will convince me that you are right

lim me i'm town i'm right in my belief

I would also likely be pumping iron for my mech considerations in the team StD suggests so he seems bent on “push first use logic later”

i'm not saying it's not possible that gamma could be uninformed

it just means nothing because he could be faking it or scum may not have talked about it

VOTE: Std fuck this game i'm out just kill me and find me town already

so done with people not engaging me on good faith

In post 1762, Save The Dragons wrote:no one is above faking uniformed on mech as scum

I am saying that it doesn’t make logical sense to think a scumteam would not have discussed mech unless that entire team was uninformed.

I’m not saying any or an entire tram could not be capable of faking that. Those are two entirely different things.

In post 1769, Save The Dragons wrote:i'm not saying it's not possible that gamma could be uninformed

it just means nothing because he could be faking it or scum may not have talked about it

Gamma was my hydra buddy in FFIV and I recall him being quite vocal about pretty much everything in both our hydra and scum pts.

i do not care

if the scum team talked about mech or not

gamma as scum could have talked about mech or not

but if he's scum he's faking being uniformed

or he could be actually uniformed

it doesn't matter

either way

he could still be scum