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Kdub, aegor, and mac joining this wagon would put jake at l-1 for what its worth

And muffin could hammer, then we would get our scum lynch

Or anti, either one would work

In post 1777, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:And muffin could hammer, then we would get our scum lynch

Here's the deal

You get me to L-1 and I will self hammer and when I flip town you get lynched tomorrow no exceptions. Everyone on my wagon assuming they aren't dead agree that you go tomorrow and nobody backs out.

Deal?

Btw mac seems like he's stalling. Wonder if hkc popped in to create a distraction

In post 1765, Jake from State Farm wrote:But aegor flip flopped on a lot of people. Even in the other game i played with him. So the flip flopping alone isn't good enough IMO

My statement that Aegor was flip-flopping on SMP was a response to your implication that he couldn't be scum with SMP, not the reason why Aegor is scummy. Again, why can't he be scum with SMP? If you can point out some concrete reasons, maybe I can more easily address the issue you have with that potential scum pairing.

What do you think about Aegor still trying to policy lynch people on D3 or set up chain lynches involving me/Mac/SG?

In post 1766, Jake from State Farm wrote:And what's your read on muffin

Mild town read on Muffin at the moment based on his play so far. I don't support his lynch today.

In post 1767, Aegor wrote:There is nothing to hold me accountable for. I have been clear about why Mac and the AJ slot are both good lynches. You act as if other players are providing solid cases that I am ignoring in favor of shitvotes. That is simply not true: I have yet to see what I would consider a case more compelling or thorough than my case on Mac. You are more than welcome to point me in the direction of one if you disagree.

Sure, you can point to some of your votes that you have justified, but shall I quote the multitude of other ones that were not? The most recent example was your vote on Jake, which you basically straight up said was a policy lynch.

In post 1767, Aegor wrote:Part of the problem is that some players decided that it would be a good idea to shitpost for like 30 pages, reducing motivation to slog through anything other than the end-of-day wagons.

No argument from me here.

It's possible aegor is scum but mac is the better lynch

we've reached the point when more discussion is hurting more than helping

someone hammer

i think AJ-slot is a lot more likely to flip scum than mac, tbh

i don't profess to be an expert on reading mac, but his D1 posts felt a lot more like town-mac than scum-mac. the casual, inquisitive nature of his posting came across as town. i *think* (and don't quote me on this) mac-scum is more about injecting shitty opinions and asking questions that really don't do anything, and this didn't feel like that at all. his more recent posts have been more meh (i see some stuff i don't mind, some stuff that i really don't like) and i don't really know what to make of the fact he doesn't seem at all concerned with being this close to lynched

on the other hand, AJ's posts felt really robotic and i had a hard time seeing anything he was doing as town. there was like... one post, maybe, where he talks about the difference between his town/scum games that made me think kinda townish, but other than that i didn't see it. and i keep coming back to 1352 and thinking it's awkward as fuck. the first response looks like he knew exactly what SMP was doing (i think anti had suggested rolefishing as a possibility, but no one had outright suggested that was actually what he was doing) and the second response is just... awful

i don't really have much of a grasp on how to read squirrel girl, either, but iirc in too many heads she was more about injecting useful opinions re: reads here and there and less about being a friendly diplomat like i'm seeing here. more about figuring out the game, less about mediating arguments (and holy fuck there were a lot of arguments in that game). i think some of the stances she's taken are more likely to come from scum than town

In post 1781, Kdub wrote: Sure, you can point to some of your votes that you have justified, but shall I quote the multitude of other ones that were not?

Why? I never denied their existence. More important, their existence is of no consequence.

The most recent example was your vote on Jake, which you basically straight up said was a policy lynch.

What is the problem, exactly?

@Muffin:

Your post makes me want to lynch Mac more and then lynch you if he flips scum, which I think he will. Also, we can always lynch AJ tomorrow.

tbh i think i would have bussed mac by now if i were scum with him

but i realise it could be interpreted that way and if he does flip scum, feel free to PL me so i don't have to read anymore. then you can be stuck with jake til endgame

aegor wrote:Also, we can always lynch AJ tomorrow.

again, if mac IS town and AJ-slot IS scum, there's a lot more benefit to lynching SG first

the horror

^in response to 1787

In post 1788, zMuffinMan wrote: again, if mac IS town and AJ-slot IS scum, there's a lot more benefit to lynching SG first

That is a big if.

it's not, really

i mean, i'm not a fan of mac being all lurky-lurky right now, but i think that's more of a site-wide thing than relevant to this game. i didn't like the fact he said he'd be around for a few hours last night then... nothing, but i do that all the time (i am Captain Broken-Promises). i liked his D1 play. i didn't really like AJ's and i haven't really liked squirrel girl's

so no, not really that big an if from where i'm sitting

where's your boner for mac coming from

I had an AJ boner earlier; it went flaccid because others did not seem interested.

Mac's posting is essentially fluff. I see no incisive commentary, lack of active engagement, and horrible attitudes toward both the HS and the SMP wagons.

SG can die tomorrow.

i.e. I am not seeing whatever enormous difference between AJ and Mac you are seeing.

/not hammering

I might, though after SG answers me

aegor wrote:Mac's posting is essentially fluff. I see no incisive commentary, lack of active engagement

are you talking about his D1 posts or his recent posts? because mac's D1 posts i did not feel that way about but i could see that about his recent posts

aegor wrote:horrible attitudes toward both the HS and the SMP wagons

agree (kinda) on HS

not so much on SMP (i don't think it was *that* horrible, just not good)

In post 1785, Aegor wrote:

In post 1781, Kdub wrote: Sure, you can point to some of your votes that you have justified, but shall I quote the multitude of other ones that were not?

Why? I never denied their existence. More important, their existence is of no consequence.

The most recent example was your vote on Jake, which you basically straight up said was a policy lynch.

What is the problem, exactly?

1) This feels like a "I always play this badly" defense.
2) The problem is that you don't want to lynch someone because you think they are scum, you want to lynch them just because you don't like them. That is not pro-town.

1) Naked votes are not bad. Having nothing but naked votes is bad.
2) The point of policy lynches is that they are pro-town regardless of the target's alignment. There is a fallacious assumption in your argument that the only pro-town lynches are on scum.

In post 1774, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:Hey, why are you completely ignoring my case after asking for it?

I found it flaccid but couldn't find a polite way to say it. You didn't even post a case, you just voted every interaction with him and were like 'so there' when, I actually don't even see a case there. I figured it was useless to proceed further because I figured you were scum being obstructionist.