Prozac's Basic Theme 4 - Murder in Marlowe - OVER!

[scotmany12]

VOTE: Espeonage

I really think I was on to something about the whole AJ saying spiffeh was trying to frame him with a connection to SC.

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: Reck
See post 1567 for most of my reason. Was also opposed to MattP lynch.

PEdit: I think catboi, Bins, mollie, and maybe notty look really good coming off that flip too

[notscience]

Spiffeh

Sing the songs of my people more

[Spiffeh]

I would lol if both SC and AJ were scumbuddies and subbed out because they were taking too much heat

[Spiffeh]

Spiffeh

Sing the songs of my people more

[notscience]

Majority of the reason I want to lynch CDB is because I think the interactions between him/mollie aren't Kosher.

Anyone familiar with CDB (thats not mollie)

- Do you think the way he was trying to make her okay with him pushing her lynch is something he would do as town pushing someone he thinks is scum?

I really think there's scum in the pair.

[ChannelDelibird]

Anyone familiar with CDB (thats not mollie)

- Do you think the way he was trying to make her okay with him pushing her lynch is something he would do as town pushing someone he thinks is scum?

I really think there's scum in the pair.

This is really weird on a couple of levels.

While I

absolutely

agree that there's no point trying to convince someone that they are scum, it bugs me that you're not considering what I was clearly doing: not so much justifying to mollie but to everyone, because my reasoning/thought process was being directly questioned and I felt that I had to answer that in order to be listened to. There's also the fact that it's very difficult to avoid being drawn into an argument with mollie. It certainly became completely pointless after a time, which is why I stopped, but given that she objected very immediately to what I was saying, it's a very natural response to be sucked in to defend that.

The dichotomy between me and mollie into which you've settled doesn't ring true, either, for how hard you seem to be coming down on me.

[ChannelDelibird]

The Marquis kill makes me feel a lot better about CKD than I did before.

[ChannelDelibird]

I think PZ's interactions with me make him town. Discuss

Treating Zito as near-confirmed town now.

[ChannelDelibird]

VOTE: pirate mollie for hitting on me.

VOTE: SC go on...

UNVOTE: pirate mollie and VOTE: Marquis for sucking and killing my fun.

UNVOTE: pirate mollie

Fixed the vote tags - Prozac

Mod: I was already voting pirate mollie; I was trying to UNVOTE her.

I still lean towards believing mollie for the crumbing, persistence and general gamestate Yesterday, but given that we now know that Coug was dealing

really awkwardly

with being scum, I would be voting for mollie over these in a vacuum. Awkward scum players are more likely to give into the 50-50-feeling choice of 'do I or do I not open RVS with a vote for a buddy' and the hasty change onto Marquis would appear to chime with that possibility, but the fact that he also

forgot

that he wasn't voting for mollie any more makes voting for mollie look like more of a

thing

in his head.

I'm left not knowing what to think of it, ultimately, because mollie feels town overall but this ticks a lot of buddy boxes for me.

[curiouskarmadog]

Votecount 1.20

-
mykonian - 5 - mollie, reck, espy, notty, CKD
MattP - 5 - Marquis, catboi, spiffeh, Bin, scot
notscience - 4 - Nexus, Zito, Davsto, Flameaxe
Pirate Mollie - 3 - CDB, Starbuck, myko
Espy - 1 - MattP,

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch.

Deadline in (expired on 2015-10-24 14:00:00)

1600 notsci votes mattp. Mattp 6/myko 4/ notsci 4.
1612 mollie votes notsci. Mattp 6/myko 3/notsci 5
Then unvotes. Mattp 6/myko 3/notsci 4.
1619 CDB votes Mattp. Mattp 7/ myko 3 / notsci 5
1630 zito votes mattp. Mattp 8/myko 3/ notsci 4
1657 mollie votes mattp. Matt 9/myko 3 / notsci 4
1699 matt claimed VT
1730 mattp hammers.


No scum can be devised from that really. Notsci looks townier. I would have also joined that notsci wagon if it had taken off...this sucks.

I will also (re)look at the votes before this vote count.

going to read marq and mattp now

[Davsto]

VOTE: pirate mollie for hitting on me.

I know this is a stretch, but it seems oddly coincidental that mollie is a Loveriser and SC's first comment towards her was about her hitting on him.

[ChannelDelibird]

Catboi
Spiffeh
Scotmany
Pirate mollie
Marquis
CDB

Are all obvtown

I'm doing some ISO'ing and then I'll engage more specifically

I can't imagine that scum-MattP would not include at least one buddy in this kind of intended townbloc. I'm town, Marquis is flipped town, Spiffeh looks pretty town given Coug's lengthy thrashings-around with him, so I think there's at least one scum in {catboi, scotmany, mollie}.

[ChannelDelibird]

Davsto do you have a bot that changes your avatar every time I read a new one of your posts or something

It's exhausting

[Davsto]

I change it ~twice a week. It's always Colin Mochrie, so it's not like you won't be able to recognise that it's me with first glance at the avatar, since I don't think anyone onsite has a Mochrie avatar.

[mykonian]

pretty fortunate that we got scum. Over the night got to do some reading, get a little more structure in my view on the game.

spiffeh, marquis look to not be partnered with SC.
marquis, mollie, bbm, NS, scot is the wagon at first. I could

maybe

see scot in a bussing position, the rest I doubt it. Maybe flameaxe if he had the presence of mind. Probably shouldn't underestimate that. NS, mollie and marq are not partnered.
spiffeh not partnered again.
aaaand sc sucks for replacing out. So spiffeh, marq, mollie, NS in group 1, scot/bbm in group 2.

AJ isn't partnered with Matt. Cats.
CDB isn't. And zito isn't. After that it's w/e.

so. CDB, zito, spiffeh, marq, mollie, NS in group 1, bbm in 1.5, scot in group 2.

[ChannelDelibird]

Catboi was first on the list of those three to iso alongside Coug/Matt...

(snip)

VOTE: MattP

Underwhelmed by the replace in stuff, vote on flameaxe looks like it's for non-alignment-ish stuff and doesn't speak to a believable scumhunting process. Think flameaxe's rudeness comes across as a town sort of arrogance - a lot of it was unprovoked, he's not trying to appeal to people or anything.

On a reread of his ISO, I could be tempted to vote AJ. His tunnel on spiffeh doesn't really look believable, it looks a bit like scum taking a singular focus in the early game to avoid commenting on anyone else. Vote on Flameaxe was also not good.

Actually you know what?

VOTE: AJ

This all happens

very

quickly for my liking but catboi's reasons for suspecting Matt (voting for someone for whom he thinks scum are likely to be drawn to vote, as he later clarifies) doesn't seem like the sort of reasons people bus buddies so I'm inclined to give it the benefit of the doubt

PEDIT: Myko, gonna need you to tell me why 'cats' are why AJ isn't a Mattbuddy.

[ChannelDelibird]

Vote: SC

Like...what is he supposed to defend against. Come on now

This is more the sort of way in which people feel drawn to vote for buddies.

[ChannelDelibird]

VOTE: scotmany

[ChannelDelibird]

I think I clearly explained it is because Reck knows PM well, and after meeting her in public I think it puts her tone into a very understandable town-oriented context.

I have no interest in voting Reck if that's what you're moving towards.

But how someone interacts in real life is not always the same as on a forum. And just because two people know each other in real life does not mean they can automatically read each other.

I understand your viewpoint for voting bbm now, but I disagree with it. I simply don't find that scummy from him.

At this point, given how big scotmany went on SC earlier, this post really doesn't have the paranoia of the MattP slot that I would expect from town.

[catboi]

I still lean towards believing mollie for the crumbing, persistence and general gamestate Yesterday, but given that we now know that Coug was dealing really awkwardly with being scum, I would be voting for mollie over these in a vacuum. Awkward scum players are more likely to give into the 50-50-feeling choice of 'do I or do I not open RVS with a vote for a buddy' and the hasty change onto Marquis would appear to chime with that possibility, but the fact that he also forgot that he wasn't voting for mollie any more makes voting for mollie look like more of a thing in his head.

I'm left not knowing what to think of it, ultimately, because mollie feels town overall but this ticks a lot of buddy boxes for me.

I put a lot less stock in this sort of interaction versus something later in the game, given how arbitrary these sorts of things are.He can choose to do whatever in RVS, any interpretation of something like that is going to be mostly guesswork.

[Spiffeh]

Davsto what kind of pointers did you scum team give you? I doubt they were very happy with your performance yesterday.

[Spiffeh]

UGH I TYPO'D FUCK

[pirate mollie]

Spiffeh is TOWN and should LIVE FOREVER. Flameaxe is also likely town. I'm making shifty eyes at ckd and Starbuck, BUT I think that, psychologically, most people would see a scumbuddy like MattP at L-1, realize he's a dead man walking, and hammer. So I lean town there. Need to look back and find the people who were showing reluctance to vote that way throughout the day. Need to read back.

[pirate mollie]

Majority of the reason I want to lynch CDB is because I think the interactions between him/mollie aren't Kosher.

Anyone familiar with CDB (thats not mollie)

- Do you think the way he was trying to make her okay with him pushing her lynch is something he would do as town pushing someone he thinks is scum?

I really think there's scum in the pair.

wait why am I not allowed to answer this