↑ Elyse wrote:I expected some justification for the vote or acknowledgement. Idk if someone said that to me I'd be angry and show them why they're wrong. Random just seems to be coasting by and shitty votes that he knows are shitty and doesn't care.
Well, yes, that's what you'd do, but we're talking about midget here. If he doesn't even hold himself to a reasonable playing standard, then why would you?
↑ Elyse wrote:Interesting that Eagle jumps back on me after someone else votes there. He called me scum for something similar earlier in the game. I also thought he wasn't scumreading me that much anymore. Oh well guess he changed his reads completely again.
Unfortunately, this is indeed an accurate summary of what EE's been doing recently.
Not unless I'm scum, or I feel that it's a weak case in comparison to a better case that I'm championing.
↑ Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Typically I assume it is something that is not alignment indicative but based in everyone's reaction to him, I assumed he was an excellent player who was careful and deliberate to make sure he had everything.
Oh you, stop making me blush.
↑ Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Do you believe this to be a poor assumption on my part, or is the fact that he seems to be pretending to be dumb a sign of his alignment?
Neither. There's no misrepping going on. Even if there was, the simplest way to prove this would be to
answer the questions I'm asking you.
It's the quickest and the most effective way of proving your point, if you have one.
But, aside from that - what cases have I been misrepresenting? I'm backing the Klingon one, and I have yet to comment on any other significant ones, such as Spifflop. No idea where you're getting this from either.
A good vote, and good posting before it as well.
↑ Extrapolated Eagle wrote:
Dont worry, I'm nowhere near as cocky as I sound. But I have noticed, at least in this game, when I don't act cocky or arrogant, arrogant people try to manipulate me and talk about me like I'm a bug to be observed under a microscope. I'm not about to let that continue to happen, and because of this I'm not interested in giving TSO the respect he refused to give me.
I have no idea where this hostility is coming from - I play Mafia in an aggressive manner when it necessitates it. Your failure to respond to me in any way is obviously going to spark a certain level of derision. The solution to this is simply to answer questions that people ask you.
Jaqen threw the first punch by calling my early game bad, and we've since agreed to discuss it in postgame. In what part of this am I being a shithead?
Can you give me a specific timeframe when you
will
, then? It's not that hard to do. And they're eminently answerable questions, in the event that you are town.
↑ Extrapolated Eagle wrote:especially since he's asking questions about a vote on Klingon that lasted a whole couple of hours.
Surely you see that the length of time your vote lasted doesn't magically negate the need for its reasoning to be explained.
Fairly, yes.
↑ Extrapolated Eagle wrote: ↑ Spider Gwen wrote:I've been kinda sorta fast reading, but I really haven't seen TSO misrep anything. Granted, I have been sorta skimming you, because you have no idea what you're talking about and it gets kinda tiring having to read that. I know what you've said. I just don't put much stock in it.
I wasn't counting you actually reading it. Just his past. And I wasn't asking about this game. More about past experience.
Again - I fail to see what case I could have misrepped this game. But, to answer your question - no.
↑ Extrapolated Eagle wrote:He seems rather stuck on my "throw a bunch of names at a wall" post. Which is interesting. I don't think I like it. He also seems more obsessed with me as scum then he does seem actually reading me.
It was a very poor post. I do not think anyone in the game will disagree with that verdict - multiple people have echoed it. I have to admit, I am still vaguely torn on your alignment. AJ and I shared very similar reads in YCBA III, with solid success. Her strong townread on you does give me pause. But the way you continually evade actually responding to me is pretty bad.
↑ Extrapolated Eagle wrote:But he also seems rather defensive about how I brought up that he jumps around a lot. Which, by the way, is in reference to how his catch up posts seem to skip things.
Well, it's nice to finally know what the phrase means, if a little anticlimactic. Assuming this is true, which I am honestly too weary to argue about, do you feel it's something that I'm more likely to do as scum than as town? I fail to see how this is so.
Yes, usually this is the assumption I make when somebody votes a leading wagon.
↑ Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Or that my vote wasn't just for reactions, which should have been rather apparent
It was in no way obvious to me. It's possible that it was to others, but I didn't see anyone else pick up on the subtext either.
↑ Extrapolated Eagle wrote:I know I at least stated that I did not really believe Klingon was scum here:
↑ Extrapolated Eagle wrote:
3. Yes. I one hundred percent can put it off on you when I voted her, and I did. You know why? Because both of you were WAY too confident she was scum. I was pretty confident she wasn't. She might be, but she probably wasn't. So no, I didn't flip my read on her. I've read her as null:town and null:scum alternating for a while now, but the vote on her did not reflect a desire to see her lynched. It was a reaction vote. I wanted to see what you would do.
What reaction were you expecting to get from this, and what did you think it could tell you about ...whatever you thought it would? I have to say, I don't really know where this is going at all.
↑ Extrapolated Eagle wrote:I also don't like how he seems to manipulate me: you're a good player, but you play like trash that holds town back oh wait you won't respond to me because I'm being an arrogant jerk who won't read the thread? Oh. You're definitely a trash player then. I'm sorry I said you might be good. Correct me if I'm reading this wrong anyone.
I would also support people correcting this - these events are totally fictional. You're inferring things that don't exist.
↑ Klingoncelt wrote: ↑ T S O wrote:Klingon's most recent pushes have been on weak players, lurkers, people who she knows are quite vulnerable. Pip, inte, that sort of thing. The pushes also suck ass, for what it's worth. This sort of horrible opportunism when close to death is not what Klingon-town would be doing.
Pip will flip Scum.
Inte, yeah, that's weak, but I get pissed off when the game's fairly intense and someone dicks it up with a prodge. Why sign up for a game that's gonna last until spring just to prod dodge?
Can you explain your top scumread to me, coherently and concisely? I'm sure that, if you flip town, you'd like this information to be well known.
↑ Aunt Jemina wrote: ↑ T S O wrote:AJ is probably town, really. I'd like to talk to her about Eagle - I never felt she expanded on that townread enough.
I simply do not see Exxy's posting as sour. There is also the fact that prior to the Spiffyloppy counterwagon to Celty, there was an Exxy counterwagon to Celty. Almost identical names, even. That is as much as I can really say.
I admit, I didn't notice this. I'll take a look at it later.
↑ inte wrote:tso with the heat
If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.
↑ Alchemist21 wrote: ↑ Shiro wrote: ↑ PeregrineV wrote:I should probably make my way through the 20+ pages, and I think I will, but for now I'm selling my vote to the first person to request it. Be like a jump start, perhaps.
Alchemist. What part of this made you think town?
It was light-natured, and I don't see scum just blatantly giving away their vote to the first person who asks.
This is a pretty poor reason to townread Peregrine.
↑ Extrapolated Eagle wrote:I promise I'm a good person who tries to work with people, so I'm really sorry to the people I've been a jerk to, namely spiff, tso, Elyse, and anyone else. My reads over the past few days are probably also garbage since I haven't been able to read like I want to nd they've been disgustingly sporadic and poorly researched. Which is why I put my vote back in Elyse.
It's fine. Mafia is a heated game by nature, and it happens to us all. I'm still going to require answers to what I've been asking you, though.