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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:01 am
by ArcAngel9
In post 1773, MortFeld wrote:
In post 1771, TwoFace wrote:
In post 1762, ChaosOmega wrote:Guys, if you don't lynch me today, you also get rid of ArcAngel. Sounds like a great deal to me!
@mort, maybe arc is talking about this?

idk what this actually means

this game is giving me a headache
Oh, I'm pretty sure Chaos just meant that he's going to flip town, meaning that Arc is going to quit.
How i am so happy to prove you wrong here. I never been wrong in a case like this. Anyone who has played with me in the past would tell me that why i appear so confident. When i found scum they are scum. If i am not sure i am ready to listen, i give benefit of doubt for every possibility that i can find

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:02 am
by TwoFace
As much as I want him lynched I'm not rolling the dice day 1.

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:03 am
by ArcAngel9
In post 1772, TwoFace wrote:I don't buy the cop claim either but I am not a big fan of lynching claimed PRs on day 1 although I have seen town do it and lynched right. if he's legit i'd rather we not do the work for mafia
This is exactly what he wants. and exactly what scum wants. They know that townies won't dare to lynch PR claims on day 1 and they want benefit out of it.

Don't fall for this.

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:06 am
by rb
Boy oh boy. This game long. Who is scum?

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:06 am
by TwoFace
Day 1, I'm going to. Any other day that's a different story.

You can be super confident he's lying and still be wrong. It's not worth it

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:06 am
by ArcAngel9
In post 1776, TwoFace wrote:As much as I want him lynched I'm not rolling the dice day 1.
You're buying the street garbage that scum is selling it you. When you go home, you wont stars in it. you will see how end up losing your bet on that.

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:06 am
by TwoFace
In post 1778, rb wrote:Boy oh boy. This game long. Who is scum?
You sorry you replaced into a scum slot

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:07 am
by TwoFace
In post 1780, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 1776, TwoFace wrote:As much as I want him lynched I'm not rolling the dice day 1.
You're buying the street garbage that scum is selling it you. When you go home, you wont stars in it. you will see how end up losing your bet on that.
I guess I am. #SorryNotSorry

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:07 am
by ArcAngel9
In post 1779, TwoFace wrote:Day 1, I'm going to. Any other day that's a different story.

You can be super confident he's lying and still be wrong. It's not worth it

For a moment keep his claim out of the discussion. Is there anything he has done that look town to you? Answer me honestly.

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:07 am
by ArcAngel9
In post 1782, TwoFace wrote:
In post 1780, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 1776, TwoFace wrote:As much as I want him lynched I'm not rolling the dice day 1.
You're buying the street garbage that scum is selling it you. When you go home, you wont stars in it. you will see how end up losing your bet on that.
I guess I am. #SorryNotSorry
You being a townderp!!

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:10 am
by MortFeld
I don't see why I should want to avoid lynching Chaos. If we had a good alternative it would make sense to not lynch the cop claim day 1, but I don't see one.

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:10 am
by ArcAngel9
TF - Please feel free to think what you want. I dont want argue because i know i can't convince you or maybe you dont want to get convinced.

Can I have other players look into the situation. We are getting closer to the day end.

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:10 am
by TwoFace
Having just finished a game where I was 10000% sure somebody was scum that I would have done the same and threatened to quit only to find out that not only was the shitty player was not scum, he basically had the entire scum team nailed.

So yeah shit happens. He's probably scum but day 1 isn't the day to take that risk. I'm a shitty gambler

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:12 am
by ArcAngel9
In post 1785, MortFeld wrote:I don't see why I should want to avoid lynching Chaos. If we had a good alternative it would make sense to not lynch the cop claim day 1, but I don't see one.
Stop looking at the case from claim perspective. Look at the claim from the player perspective. How did you claim? On what situation? He was being pressurized to speak up and he claimed and vanished thinking that he could avoid getting lynched today. Doesn't it sound rational to you?

He was not even at L1 to claim that he is cop. He claimed to avoid being explained about why he is not scum.

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:13 am
by rb
Not lynching Chaos tbh.

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:13 am
by ChaosOmega
Mort, what the hell do you mean you don't see an alternative? You were my top town read, you're plummeting down. You were just convincing people to vote for Arc. Is that not an alternative?

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:14 am
by ArcAngel9
In post 1787, TwoFace wrote:Having just finished a game where I was 10000% sure somebody was scum that I would have done the same and threatened to quit only to find out that not only was the shitty player was not scum, he basically had the entire scum team nailed.

So yeah shit happens. He's probably scum but day 1 isn't the day to take that risk. I'm a shitty gambler

A gambler takes risk that i proposed. you're not a gambler and not even close to a poor gambler. You just diced your options and hanging to one just like how you didn't want to listen to my argument the other day.

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:15 am
by MortFeld
Pretty sure this situation is not even close to Titus. That type of situation will probably never happen again.

Pedit: looking forward to who you think we should lynch then rb.

Pedit2: Actually you're right, Arc is an alternative, it's just that if Arc flips town we're in the same situation as we are now. If you flip town Arc is probably scum, meaning that the EV of your lynch is higher. Isn't trading one scum for cop worth it?

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:16 am
by rb
Arc, Chaos + HS probably all town.

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:17 am
by ArcAngel9
In post 1790, ChaosOmega wrote:Mort, what the hell do you mean you don't see an alternative? You were my top town read, you're plummeting down. You were just convincing people to vote for Arc. Is that not an alternative?
now you're trying to buddy up with people. Lol.

If may I ask, explain how you top town read MORT. and who else you is your top town read and also the question you been avoiding all game. Explain reads on your lynch pool please. and also another obvious question you tried to avoid answering. Why did you claim when you're not at L1? Answers please.

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:18 am
by MortFeld
I mean, rb is an alternative, Road is an alternative, even Drone and Shadow. It was inaccurate to say there are no alternatives, I just think your lynch has the highest EV.

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:18 am
by ChaosOmega
And now you're trying to set up lynches to push into Arc D2, Mort. Why are mine and Arc's reads connected in that way?

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:18 am
by rb
Mort is town too. Wee, PoE lynch incoming

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:19 am
by ArcAngel9
In post 1792, MortFeld wrote:Pretty sure this situation is not even close to Titus. That type of situation will probably never happen again.

Pedit: looking forward to who you think we should lynch then rb.

Pedit2: Actually you're right, Arc is an alternative, it's just that if Arc flips town we're in the same situation as we are now. If you flip town Arc is probably scum, meaning that the EV of your lynch is higher. Isn't trading one scum for cop worth it?
Mort - Forget that he even claimed COP. Did he do anything in the game that looked town to you? Answer this please. and please put yourself into his role. If you cop, would play like the way he played? especially someone who know to be awarded as best town performance in Mafiascum.net scummies awards?

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:19 am
by rb
We can just investigate/vig/cop/something on Chaos. I don't know enough about Arc tp know if he's as good as he says.