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Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:47 pm**

I assumed in this list I'd be made before EoD1 and have made pretty much 0 effort to disguise myself

-JC

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:50 pm**

Remind me where you two are on flavor, fox, and smol?

-JC

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:56 pm**

She isn't on Discord right now but I can answer for my part, which is that I haven't read any of those slots. I'm pretty sure she wanted a Smol Might vote when I didn't want to go on Ircherz though.

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:02 pm**

I still think Smol Night is very likely an agent of Black Hole. I don't feel persuaded by arguments other COs have made about difficulty. Sometimes the first part of a campaign is easy by design.
I'm less sure about Tag Team Flavortown. They seem to not be highly engaged in the battle in a way that might indicate they are Black Hole, but it is difficult to be sure without more movements.
CO xofelf has demonstrated many tactics that resemble Orange Star maneuvers, yet I get the nagging feeling I'm actually watching a choreographed military parade at times. CO Pine's actions makes me want to field test a laser on the tag team, but it also feels bad given how early CO xofelf began to lose the Battle of Alisae v Pine.

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:02 pm**

And another event begins, dw, this will be a quickie.
i need 8 players
and there will be a penalty

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:02 pm**

In post 1778, popsofctown wrote:
I still think Smol Night is very likely an agent of Black Hole. I don't feel persuaded by arguments other COs have made about difficulty. Sometimes the first part of a campaign is easy by design.
I'm less sure about Tag Team Flavortown. They seem to not be highly engaged in the battle in a way that might indicate they are Black Hole, but it is difficult to be sure without more movements.
CO xofelf has demonstrated many tactics that resemble Orange Star maneuvers, yet I get the nagging feeling I'm actually watching a choreographed military parade at times. CO Pine's actions makes me want to field test a laser on the tag team, but it also feels bad given how early CO xofelf began to lose the Battle of Alisae v Pine.

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:03 pm**

/in as popsofctown

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:03 pm**

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:03 pm**

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:03 pm**

/in cena

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:03 pm**

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:04 pm**

If this isn't a quickie Alisae you are dead to me I was going to skip it

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:05 pm**

In post 1784, Disaster Artists wrote:/in cena

/in

To confirm since confusion

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:06 pm**

this will be the LAST event of this day phase

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:10 pm**

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:11 pm**

In post 1774, Disaster Artists wrote:You say you don't think it's genuine but I don't know what that means in terms of alignment indication. I'm also not sure what you think is ingenuine vs miscommunications/inaccurate meta?

For me, the progression is what doesn't seem genuine. This is Prismspeak for "I'm not buying what they're selling and think it's scummy"

You spent a solid amount of time cooking up different possible motivations, but your read seemed to turn on a dime on probably one of the most basic ones with little extrapolation. It comes off as very much no longer wanting to fight insomnia, rather than any real revelations about insomnia's thinking or motivations.

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:13 pm**

/in if it's not too late.

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:14 pm**

6/8 need 2 more

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:15 pm**

datisi
popsofctown
john cena
prism
Ircher
Taly

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:16 pm**

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:16 pm**

1 more come on

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:17 pm**

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:18 pm**

datisi
popsofctown
john cena
prism
Ircher
Taly
sircakez
Hectic

check pms we'll be starting soon!

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:18 pm**

Respectfully, Pops is also confusing a lot of insomnia's push: #1513 makes the source of insomnia's read clear. The idea is that

because nothing you've done strikes insomnia as town, you (JC) are likely scum

. This is not the most airtight reasoning, but it's a theory that potentially suffices: that based off the player, no blatantly town=scum by default. Classifying it as "no read" is or portraying it as insomnia being uncertain is almost willfully missing the point.

Posted: **Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:23 pm**

In post 1798, Black Hole Defection wrote:Respectfully, Pops is also confusing a lot of insomnia's push: #1513 makes the source of insomnia's read clear. The idea is that
because nothing you've done strikes insomnia as town, you (JC) are likely scum
. This is not the most airtight reasoning, but it's a theory that potentially suffices: that based off the player, no blatantly town=scum by default. Classifying it as "no read" is or portraying it as insomnia being uncertain is almost willfully missing the point.

I mean that being the case, I would find it very surprising that Insomnia would say to vig me only because he isn't townreading me yet, especially when he himself has acknowledged that his early game wim is low, and particularly in this game where the dayphase comes to a screeching halt twice a day while events take place.

So I thought it was a particularly bad take from a slot I was townreading, my kneejerk reaction was to write him off as scum for it and then I played with it in my head for a bit more and decided his specific head might still need to die if he was going to start proposing vig shots today since I think that's almost objectively scummy.

Anyway my concern was more that you had any explanation at all for what you were getting at with the question of genuine/not genuine so at least you look better than the other 'fake' hottakers that all just got severely downgraded in my reads

-JC

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