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[bob3141]

I read the "argument" and it felt to me that she sincerely felt that you were attacking her. I don't think you actually were, but it is reasonable that she thought so. I don't really think scum would try to use the emotions card because that is sorta cheap.
Yeah basically
Because she is not "mechanically cleared"

Why do you think scum wouldnt use the emotion card?

Why do you think it wasnt sensitive scum?

[midwaybear]

ok fine you have a point there

[bob3141]

mid if lucky flipped town what do you think that would mean for the players you dont see as lock town?

[bob3141]

As it looks like you willing to vote for whom ever you can get. With 7 alive thats 4 playesr you dont lock town.

[midwaybear]

Then I still think we go with LL as his flip gives us the most info
if he is scum, he convicts you
I highly doubt he is town because that would mean that both you and ador are scum(which I doubt) or that wake is scum(which I also doubt)
So don't you agree that LL is the best hang today?
pedit: I doubt he will flip town, but I did account for it in this post

[midwaybear]

As it looks like you willing to vote for whom ever you can get. With 7 alive thats 4 playesr you dont lock town.

look I'll vote you/lucky and I'll probably vote adorable
I prefer lynching lucky>>you>ador

[bob3141]

that includes lucky so after his lynch. If it is revealed you voted for him and his flip was green.

That leaves 3 players outside your lock town. Who do you think the 2 scum woudl be and why

[midwaybear]

first of all, I highly doubt LL is town at this point
but I guess then scum would either be you/wake or wake/ador

[bob3141]

As it looks like you willing to vote for whom ever you can get. With 7 alive thats 4 playesr you dont lock town.

look I'll vote you/lucky and I'll probably vote adorable
I prefer lynching lucky>>you>ador

Didnt you just say me and ador cant be svs.

So after my lynch. although it would end in a town loss. Who do you think would be adora partner and why?

As its odd you would place adora after me. As i only said if lucky is mislynched. Not if i was. So why would teh 3rd lynch in teh order be a peson you think cant be scum with me

[bob3141]

first of all, I highly doubt LL is town at this point
but I guess then scum would either be you/wake or wake/ador

What makes you entertain the fact that wake could be scum.

What makes you think he could my or adora partner?

If you think i am scum even if lucky is scum. Then why isnt wake your 3rd lynch

[bob3141]

why do you think a scum wake would out all the pr as scum. Rather then using his info to kill them in the night. And town be no the wiser


if lucky is town and i cant in your view be scum with adora.


doesnt that simply mean its a midbear/adora scum team

[midwaybear]

uh yea. I doubt you vs ador is svs.
We have 1 more mislynch iirc, so even if u are town, we would not lose. Not sure who the scumpartner would be
Don't get what you are asking in ur last paragraph srry

pedit: why are u so sure lucky is town?! I trust wake today

[bob3141]

If i am town bear what do you think the scum team would be then?

As in if im lynched today. Revealing without a shadow of doubt that im town.


how would that effect you luck read?

[midwaybear]

well we are hopefully lynching lucky not you
I would sheep the locktowns and trust their decision if we somehow lynched you and you flipped town

[midwaybear]

VOTE: Lucky Luciano

[bob3141]

uh yea. I doubt you vs ador is svs.
We have 1 more mislynch iirc, so even if u are town, we would not lose. Not sure who the scumpartner would be
Don't get what you are asking in ur last paragraph srry

pedit: why are u so sure lucky is town?! I trust wake today

i thought you just said a scum lucky means a a scum bob.

So if lucky is lynched and is revealed town. That reduces mislynches to zero

Meaning that my lynch ends the game.

[midwaybear]

wth is your logic no offense
if lucky flips town, then we aren't going to lynch you(most likely)

[bob3141]

well we are hopefully lynching lucky not you
I would sheep the locktowns and trust their decision if we somehow lynched you and you flipped town

if you think lucky is sure scum and that makes me sure scum. Then why would you care which one went first.


As you have been pushing that im in the most possibile teams. Wouldnt my lynch in you pov be the best?

[bob3141]

wth is your logic no offense
if lucky flips town, then we aren't going to lynch you(most likely)

But you just said you think it could be wake/bob team.


Thus you are thinking about a bob lynch

[LuckyLuciano]

Midwaybear is just sheeping MT onto me because the deadline is getting close and any mislynch is fine from his PoV. Let's go with the profii slot for now. VOTE: Midway.

[LuckyLuciano]

Honestly, unless MT is scum this game is mechanically solved. Wake can choose to be bad and ignore it and drive the town to a loss, but setup spec with the jailkeeper flip + Clidd's townslip present us with a foolproof PoE.

[midwaybear]

uhh there's nothing wrong with sheeping as long as your reasoning is fine
It seems like you are the main scum candidate and even if you aren't, your flip would be informative

pedit: huh whats your solve

[bob3141]

uhh there's nothing wrong with sheeping as long as your reasoning is fine
It seems like you are the main scum candidate and even if you aren't, your flip would be informative

pedit: huh whats your solve

what information do you think you would gain from luckys flip.

Compared to other flips.

[LuckyLuciano]

{Midway, Bob, Adorable}.

Wake and I are mech town. If town wants to lynch one of us and we lose, I honestly take no blame for the loss. If somebody wants to be an idiot and ignore the fact that

the mafia has a jailkeeper for a fucking reason

, that's not on me. Clidd's slip townconfirms him. Honestly, his slip probably should be breaking some sort of rules for using a PT to justify town mindset throughout the game (even though it was an accident), but whatever. I have MT as town behaviorally, and the consensus seems to be that MT is mech town. I don't really understand the value of neighborhoods (my old site used masons exclusively), so I'm differing to others here. That leaves 3 players. There's 2 mafia left, and we have 1 mislynch available. Sorry for not being more involved, but I haven't been able to pull myself to put extensive effort explaining how the game is already fucking solved and has been for a while now. Town losing requires MT to be scum or town lynching conftown.

[LuckyLuciano]

Maybe I'm unfairly BoPing Wake based on what I have read about his reputation, but it's frustrating as hell that he seems to believe mafia was given a jailkeeper just for shits and giggles. You mislead town with roles because they are

supposed

to be uninformed. A backup cop in a game where there is no cop is okay

because the town is uninformed

. When you give the mafia a jailkeeper

and the role has no purpose

you are misleading the faction that

needs

an informational advantage to win the game. Mafia is going to make assumptions based on having a jailkeeper. If either Wake or myself is not town,

the mod fucked the mafia and the setup reviewers let it happen

.