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Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 12:19 pm
by Nero Cain
In post 1770, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Because t sounded to me like you were saying my read shouldn’t have changed. To which I was wondering if you thought they didn’t naturally change all the time.
my words are very simple and there's not some hidden meaning behind them.

ur question was dumb

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 12:20 pm
by EspeciallyTheLies
In post 1775, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1770, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Because t sounded to me like you were saying my read shouldn’t have changed. To which I was wondering if you thought they didn’t naturally change all the time.
my words are very simple and there's not some hidden meaning behind them.

ur question was dumb
Ok then. So was yours.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 12:20 pm
by EspeciallyTheLies
In post 1765, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
VC PLEASE. TY

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 12:20 pm
by Quick
In post 1774, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
In post 1772, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1766, davesaz wrote:
In post 1761, EspeciallyTheLies wrote: Yeah that’s fine and all but do you understand what I’m doing rn?
There are multiple possible answers. Despite what you may thing I'm not settled on which.
I think I know what she's claiming and it's dumb.
???? I’m not claiming anything but I will.

I’m a vanilla townie. I do nothing except vote and die. My vote is doing nothing. So I’ll die instead. How do people not get how much information can be gained by lynching me today??? Over half the playerlist has made a firm stance on me one way or the other. Getting a confirmation of my alignment means you can take that data and use it to figure out other people’s alignments. FAR MORE BENEFIT. How is that hard to understand??
Sure, but how about not lynching Jester and ending the game?

I'm joking.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 12:21 pm
by EspeciallyTheLies
:facepalm: *sigh*

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 12:22 pm
by Nero Cain
was me thinking that you were doing some "reaction test"

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 12:22 pm
by mastina
In post 1607, Auro wrote:The kills should be for the doc, I believe
Doctors, plural, but yes. Also keep in mind we have a claimed infection-immune townie who thus cannot be infected; mafia leaving that slot alive means that they always have someone immune to being infected. (Like I said, No Lynch/Voted is half-BP, half-IC. For scum to get rid of the conftown, they need to spend one of their only two factional nightkills on the slot, something I am fine with since it'd mean they only have one left to take care of anti-infection players. :doc: :dead: )

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 12:24 pm
by Quick
Honestly, don't do this. It hurts. There are better slots to vote such as:

Spoiler:
The ones I have already listed[/V]

And we can tack on Ari as well.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 12:25 pm
by EspeciallyTheLies
In post 1780, Nero Cain wrote: was me thinking that you were doing some "reaction test"
No I’m dead serious.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 12:25 pm
by Covid 19
Day 1 VC #39

Creature (1): Tchill13 ()
Auro (0):
Hoctac (1): Elements ()
5G Tower (1): Quick ()
Jake the Wolfie (0):
Aristophanes (0):
Quick (1): 50 Judge Powers ()
Vecna (2): Alchemist21 (), Voted ()
Voted (0):
Alchemist21 (1): farside22 ()
Elements (0):
Flavor Leaf (1): Saudade ()
farside22 (0):
EspeciallyTheLies (4): mastina (), Hoctac (), EspeciallyTheLies (), Nero Cain ()
50 Judge Powers (2): Vecna (), Auro ()
mastina (1): davesaz ()
Miss Lynch (0):
Nero Cain (0):
Tchill13 (0):
Saudade (0):
No Lynch (0):
Not Voting (6): Creature, 5G Tower, Jake the Wolfie, Aristophanes, Flavor Leaf (), Miss Lynch ()

With 21 alive, it takes 11 votes to lynch a player.

This phase will end on May 19, 2020 1:00 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2020-05-19 13:00:00).

Moderator Notes1. If you have regular weekend V/LA, you must either notify me each time or set V/LA tags each time.
2.
Please note the prodding rules. You are prodded after 32 hours of inactivity except on Saturday-Monday.

3. MathBlade's automated votecounter doesn't appear to track No Lynch votes properly. I'm still waiting for a response from him.
4. If you see any errors in a votecount or in the voting history, please feel free to inform me either in-thread (by bolding) or via pm.
5. As a note, if I'm not around to provide a VC, you can easily obtain one using MathBlade's tool. There's a link to the thread in the opening post of this thread. (Please remember to clearly label all unofficial votecounts as such.)

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 12:26 pm
by EspeciallyTheLies
In post 1782, Quick wrote:
Honestly, don't do this. It hurts. There are better slots to vote such as:

Spoiler:
The ones I have already listed[/V]

And we can tack on Ari as well.
There is literally no other person on the playerlist who has more firm reads on it or reactions to their posts than I do.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 12:26 pm
by mastina
In post 1614, davesaz wrote:BTW 50's posts that are happening now are town-indicative.
I agree.
So that narrows down the probable lurker-scum pool to 2/3; not bad odds to be honest.
Within {Aristophanes, Creature, Jake}, pretty sure there's that 66% chance to hit scum and with those odds, would be all too happy to join a wagon on any of them.
Probably Ari > Creature
>
Jake though if I were left with a choice between the three. That being, Aristophanes most suspicious, Creature behind him, Jake loosely at the Creature level but familiarity with Creature makes me want to lynch Creature first.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 12:27 pm
by Nero Cain
If you are town then sacrificing yourself seems kinda dumb, no? Chance this is just
ate
so ppl town read u for it.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 12:27 pm
by Quick
In post 1786, mastina wrote:
In post 1614, davesaz wrote:BTW 50's posts that are happening now are town-indicative.
I agree.
So that narrows down the probable lurker-scum pool to 2/3; not bad odds to be honest.
Within {Aristophanes, Creature, Jake}, pretty sure there's that 66% chance to hit scum and with those odds, would be all too happy to join a wagon on any of them.
Probably Ari > Creature
>
Jake though if I were left with a choice between the three. That being, Aristophanes most suspicious, Creature behind him, Jake loosely at the Creature level but familiarity with Creature makes me want to lynch Creature first.
Plot twist: I'm Scum.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 12:28 pm
by mastina
In post 1616, Auro wrote:What's your take on Mastina?
Going to eat either the scum nightkill or a scum infection for sure at some point due to how much of a threat she's posing.

:P

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 12:28 pm
by davesaz
Are you going to answer my question mastina?

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 12:30 pm
by EspeciallyTheLies
In post 1784, Covid 19 wrote:
Votecount 1.38

EspeciallyTheLies(4)
~ (65), (51), (250), (148)

Vecna(2)
~ (32), (45)
50 Judge Powers(2)
~ (138), (160)
Quick(1)
~ (44)
mastina(1)
~ (72)
Hoctac(1)
~ (23)
Flavor Leaf(1)
~ (71)
Creature(1)
~ (88)
Alchemist21(1)
~ (64)
5G Tower(1)
~ (307)


Not Voting (6): Creature(31), 5G Tower(13), Jake the Wolfie(6), Aristophanes(11), (24), (78)

With 21 alive it takes 11 to lynch.
MissLynch, now is your opportunity.

I need 7 more votes to make this happen. Quick, put your vote back please. Stop being hardheaded. This is the highest reward option. With 50, that makes 7 votes, only 3 left. Come on people. If you are actually interested in moving this town forward with real info, this is the best way.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 12:31 pm
by davesaz
ETL, two of the possible answers are town trying to get out of the game quickly and scum trying to AtE themselves out of lynch contention.
There are plenty more, but those are the big ones.
I strongly disagree with martyrdom. We lynch scum if possible.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 12:31 pm
by mastina
In post 1647, Flavor Leaf wrote:66 pages... I’m never catching up
For the record, while I don't think FL is scum, if he active lurks like this, I'd be okay with a policy lynch on his slot just in case there's the chance he was scum.

(Then again, if FL pulled his normal antics in a game, I'd probably then say I'd be down to policy lynch FL for said antics. :P)

That said.
Still think Ari/Creature/Jake are by far a better focal point overall.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 12:32 pm
by EspeciallyTheLies
In post 1787, Nero Cain wrote:If you are town then sacrificing yourself seems kinda dumb, no? Chance this is just
ate
so ppl town read u for it.
omg no. It’s not dumb at all. How are you not getting this? How would lynching anyone else be more beneficial?? My value as VT is in my death.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 12:33 pm
by mastina
In post 1687, davesaz wrote:Ari's posting is sociable, but no real content. I too am working and my availability will be highly variable. Today has been an unusually good day for posting.
Indeed.

While I sympathize with being busy, Aristophanes's lack of content here this game is scum-indicative until proven otherwise.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 12:34 pm
by EspeciallyTheLies
In post 1792, davesaz wrote:ETL, two of the possible answers are town trying to get out of the game quickly and scum trying to AtE themselves out of lynch contention.
There are plenty more, but those are the big ones.
I strongly disagree with martyrdom. We lynch scum if possible.
With the way this game is currently going, the high number of lurkers, the high number of non-serious players and the very low ratio of scum to town, scum lynch ain’t happening today. That’s pretty much a given. So if we are going to lynch town anyway we should be going for the highest info lynch we can and you cannot argue that mine doesn’t fit the bill.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 12:36 pm
by mastina
In post 1697, davesaz wrote:
In post 1694, mastina wrote:ETL's content this game has looked town without actually doing anything town.
Do you have a proactive > reactive bias in how your read people in general?
Nope, never even remotely. Never been something that has ever factored in, ever.

The only thing proactive/reactive has ever meant in a game is in relevance to me, specifically, if I was in a proactive or reactive mindset. It is utterly irrelevant to other players and how I gauge them.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 12:37 pm
by Vecna
I really have an extremely strong urge to insult and yell and turn this into a toxic swamp now

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 12:38 pm
by EspeciallyTheLies
Plenty of people willing to say I’m terrible and I must be scum and not willing to actually lynch me wtf