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In post 1773, Raya36 wrote:This is a good point. If scum was tampering then it would likely have been a 1 shot ability or there would be no chance for town to ever pass the quiz.

In post 1768, farside22 wrote:Someone doesn't want to discuss anything other them them being safe or getting the chain.......i think it starts with a player named albert....last name scum

In post 1770, springlullaby wrote:

In post 1760, Raya36 wrote:

In post 1756, springlullaby wrote:

In post 1754, Raya36 wrote:I think Spring just TMIed...

Then that immediate change of topic at the end was bad.

Please propose a way of evaluating whether it is better to scumhunt within the scum group vs scumhunting within the full town.

In other words, please state why you think it is better to scumhunt within the qt pool.

It's not necessarily better but I think it's the best way to use PoE to solve. We can be almost certain there is at least 1 scum within the quiz, unless it is true that scum tampered with it.

Anyway, I prefer logic over math in Mafia. And I am a math oriented person (although I do suck at stats which is what mafia would need if we were to use math).

So to summarize:

A. You don't think scumhunting within the qt pool is better.
B. Yet you state that you are scumhunting in the qt pool.
C. When I ask you on what basis you are making that choice, you can't say why.
D. And accuse me of TMI?

In post 1774, Raya36 wrote:With the above in mind why don't we make the quiz the exact same 5 people? Then if the quiz passes we know everyone on it is town. If it fails again then we know it's extremely unlikely that the problem was scum tampering and we actually do have scum in the quiz. Making a whole new quiz team likely lands scum in the quiz anyway. I think this is the best strategy from a solving standpoint

In post 1777, Raya36 wrote:C. I did say why didn't I?

In post 1775, springlullaby wrote:

In post 1773, Raya36 wrote:This is a good point. If scum was tampering then it would likely have been a 1 shot ability or there would be no chance for town to ever pass the quiz.

This is a point I made earlier. Why is it a good point from beeboy, but busywork from me?

In post 1778, Starbuck wrote:
I don't want to see spring back on a quiz, especially with that vote for beeboy and whole thing surrounding that

if beeboy died, then spring would get it back.

In post 1778, Starbuck wrote:

In post 1774, Raya36 wrote:With the above in mind why don't we make the quiz the exact same 5 people? Then if the quiz passes we know everyone on it is town. If it fails again then we know it's extremely unlikely that the problem was scum tampering and we actually do have scum in the quiz. Making a whole new quiz team likely lands scum in the quiz anyway. I think this is the best strategy from a solving standpoint

Technically, we can't. Unwnd already said it's 4 people.

I don't want to see spring back on a quiz, especially with that vote for beeboy and whole thing surrounding that if beeboy died, then spring would get it back.

In post 1774, Raya36 wrote:With the above in mind why don't we make the quiz the exact same 5 people? Then if the quiz passes we know everyone on it is town. If it fails again then we know it's extremely unlikely that the problem was scum tampering and we actually do have scum in the quiz. Making a whole new quiz team likely lands scum in the quiz anyway. I think this is the best strategy from a solving standpoint

In post 1782, Raya36 wrote:

In post 1778, Starbuck wrote:

In post 1774, Raya36 wrote:With the above in mind why don't we make the quiz the exact same 5 people? Then if the quiz passes we know everyone on it is town. If it fails again then we know it's extremely unlikely that the problem was scum tampering and we actually do have scum in the quiz. Making a whole new quiz team likely lands scum in the quiz anyway. I think this is the best strategy from a solving standpoint

Technically, we can't. Unwnd already said it's 4 people.

I don't want to see spring back on a quiz, especially with that vote for beeboy and whole thing surrounding that if beeboy died, then spring would get it back.

Ok then to compromise on the plan why don't we make it me, you, Dunn, farside? Then we'll know for sure if one of us is scum. Because I doubt the quiz will be tampered with twice. It would have to be a 1 shot to be fair

In post 1783, beeboy wrote:

In post 1774, Raya36 wrote:With the above in mind why don't we make the quiz the exact same 5 people? Then if the quiz passes we know everyone on it is town. If it fails again then we know it's extremely unlikely that the problem was scum tampering and we actually do have scum in the quiz. Making a whole new quiz team likely lands scum in the quiz anyway. I think this is the best strategy from a solving standpoint

I want to run the group back for what I've been preaching but no one in this game wants to listen to me about how scum need to be able to tamper with the groups for the game to be balanced

In post 1779, springlullaby wrote:

In post 1777, Raya36 wrote:C. I did say why didn't I?

Nope, you didn't.

In post 1782, Raya36 wrote:

In post 1778, Starbuck wrote:

In post 1774, Raya36 wrote:With the above in mind why don't we make the quiz the exact same 5 people? Then if the quiz passes we know everyone on it is town. If it fails again then we know it's extremely unlikely that the problem was scum tampering and we actually do have scum in the quiz. Making a whole new quiz team likely lands scum in the quiz anyway. I think this is the best strategy from a solving standpoint

Technically, we can't. Unwnd already said it's 4 people.

I don't want to see spring back on a quiz, especially with that vote for beeboy and whole thing surrounding that if beeboy died, then spring would get it back.

Ok then to compromise on the plan why don't we make it me, you, Dunn, farside? Then we'll know for sure if one of us is scum. Because I doubt the quiz will be tampered with twice. It would have to be a 1 shot to be fair

In post 1783, beeboy wrote:

In post 1774, Raya36 wrote:With the above in mind why don't we make the quiz the exact same 5 people? Then if the quiz passes we know everyone on it is town. If it fails again then we know it's extremely unlikely that the problem was scum tampering and we actually do have scum in the quiz. Making a whole new quiz team likely lands scum in the quiz anyway. I think this is the best strategy from a solving standpoint

I want to run the group back for what I've been preaching but no one in this game wants to listen to me about how scum need to be able to tamper with the groups for the game to be balanced

In post 1784, springlullaby wrote:

In post 1782, Raya36 wrote:

In post 1778, Starbuck wrote:

In post 1774, Raya36 wrote:With the above in mind why don't we make the quiz the exact same 5 people? Then if the quiz passes we know everyone on it is town. If it fails again then we know it's extremely unlikely that the problem was scum tampering and we actually do have scum in the quiz. Making a whole new quiz team likely lands scum in the quiz anyway. I think this is the best strategy from a solving standpoint

Technically, we can't. Unwnd already said it's 4 people.

I don't want to see spring back on a quiz, especially with that vote for beeboy and whole thing surrounding that if beeboy died, then spring would get it back.

Ok then to compromise on the plan why don't we make it me, you, Dunn, farside? Then we'll know for sure if one of us is scum. Because I doubt the quiz will be tampered with twice. It would have to be a 1 shot to be fair

Raya, why are you agreeing with Starbuck when you are the one who pointed out that if we vote beeboy, the chain can't revert back to me?

In post 1791, Raya36 wrote: I don't want to see you on the quiz for other reasons

In post 1787, Starbuck wrote:

In post 1782, Raya36 wrote:

In post 1778, Starbuck wrote:

In post 1774, Raya36 wrote:With the above in mind why don't we make the quiz the exact same 5 people? Then if the quiz passes we know everyone on it is town. If it fails again then we know it's extremely unlikely that the problem was scum tampering and we actually do have scum in the quiz. Making a whole new quiz team likely lands scum in the quiz anyway. I think this is the best strategy from a solving standpoint

Technically, we can't. Unwnd already said it's 4 people.

I don't want to see spring back on a quiz, especially with that vote for beeboy and whole thing surrounding that if beeboy died, then spring would get it back.

Ok then to compromise on the plan why don't we make it me, you, Dunn, farside? Then we'll know for sure if one of us is scum. Because I doubt the quiz will be tampered with twice. It would have to be a 1 shot to be fair

I'd be down, but at the end of the day, it's all up to Unwnd. We have to see what he does. I think he already said that he wasn't taking suggestions, so he might screw the pooch on any ideas that we've had thus far.

In post 1792, springlullaby wrote:

In post 1791, Raya36 wrote: I don't want to see you on the quiz for other reasons

Reason which makes you agree with bad reasons?

In post 1790, Raya36 wrote:

In post 1783, beeboy wrote:

In post 1774, Raya36 wrote:With the above in mind why don't we make the quiz the exact same 5 people? Then if the quiz passes we know everyone on it is town. If it fails again then we know it's extremely unlikely that the problem was scum tampering and we actually do have scum in the quiz. Making a whole new quiz team likely lands scum in the quiz anyway. I think this is the best strategy from a solving standpoint

I want to run the group back for what I've been preaching but no one in this game wants to listen to me about how scum need to be able to tamper with the groups for the game to be balanced

I believe you now. Took some consideration because I thought that would be overpowered but you're right that it would be extremely town sided without that.

So you're in agreement about making the quiz group the same but without spring?