In post 1765, NorwegianboyEE wrote:If there’s a real vig i suggest thwm to just claim right now. It’s better to lynch than shoot a scum. Shot’s can be interferred with. Lynches are eternal.
If you think he's mafia, wouldn't fake claiming vig be fishing for a counterclaim instead of trying to survive the night?
That is, wouldn't vig counterclaiming be what he was going for?
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:21 pm
by Dunnstral
Also let's assume nobody counterclaims
Who should we be looking at, without taking popopo into consideration?
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:29 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 1776, Dunnstral wrote:Who should we be looking at, without taking popopo into consideration?
To be honest i don't really know. I've been way too focused on Popopo looking scummy.
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:30 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
I think i'd just chalk up my main townreads and then PoE from there.
In post 1765, NorwegianboyEE wrote:If there’s a real vig i suggest thwm to just claim right now. It’s better to lynch than shoot a scum. Shot’s can be interferred with. Lynches are eternal.
If you think he's mafia, wouldn't fake claiming vig be fishing for a counterclaim instead of trying to survive the night?
That is, wouldn't vig counterclaiming be what he was going for?
Most likely that is what he'd be going for. As scum!him wouldn't have much else to gain in that current situation since he's clearly not going for the "Norwee is faking the guilty" route anymore.
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:38 pm
by Dunnstral
Actually... does gunsmith + masons seem weird? It seems strange to me that there would be at least 2 confirmed town in masons, and then essentially a cop role that gets a false guilty on 1 person.
Maybe that does point to mafia having a doctor? Or the mason claim being a fib
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:44 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
If mafia has doctor then it would make the idea of having vig shoot the scum over lynching them even more foolish.
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:46 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 1781, NorwegianboyEE wrote:If mafia has doctor then it would make the idea of having vig shoot the scum over lynching them even more foolish.
Eh. Does it really matter if we miss out on a vig shot? As long as they shoot again on night 3, we're on evens
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:48 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
I'n starting to think a mass claim is a good idea by the second.
Like Truth, would you be heavily opposed to outing your mason buddy (assuming you have one) today?
Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:53 am
by Deimos27
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Mod notes:
Dunnstral replaces mavsfan41.
I am choosing to interpret Truth's 1745 as a vote for no lynch. Please use the proper tags if this was intended as an unvote.
In post 1683, Blair wrote:I think the right move here is for us to collectively decide who Popo should shoot tonight.
Why do you believe him?!
Truthfully? I don't.
A fact that isn't difficult to glean from that post or the preceding ones, if you hadn't cherry picked this sentence out of context.
Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:54 am
by Blair
In post 1767, Nauci wrote:Are you trying to say that Blair might be scum because she pulled some Galaxy Brain shit in our previous game and let you be wrong just to wait to frame you on it here chief
All my machinations are now laid bare.
Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:23 am
by Nauci
If Blair makes it to day 4 alive we're lynching there btw
Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:27 am
by Blair
I think this has gone on long enough. Every living player has weighed in now so we will have plenty to go off when the truth comes out (and a couple of people seem to have TMI, so that's a thing).
Spoiler:
I am the Vigilante.
I shot CSF as a PoE shot because she was the runner-up wagon yesterday and several players indicated if osuka flipped town they would suspect her today.
Two players appear to have TMI:
Truth - Seems to know Popopo is not the Vigilante (yet isn't voting for him) and openly speculated that I, specifically, could be the Vigilante.
LicketyQuickety - Seemed to enter the day dead-set on arguing there was a Serial Killer in the setup. An argument he attempted to force even after being directly contradicted by the mod, and (strikingly) even after Popopo claimed 2-shot Vigilante. Why double down on the idea of an unlimited shot killing role after an uncountered 2-shot claim? Did LQ know the Vigilante wasn't really 2-shot? If so, how?
In post 1743, Truth wrote:Because I am town, Blair! Please don't shoot me if you're the vigilante. Does my buddy really need to prove this to be the case?
Was this a rhetorical question?
In post 1743, Truth wrote:Dunnstral's plan where we let the vigilante shoot po if he's lying seems like a good idea.
But who else should be lynch today instead? osuka and po were my main suspects.
Choose between
Candy Shop
Blair and
mavsfan41
Dunnstral.
In post 1745, Truth wrote:Could you explain what you mean by this please? Is it because he said po instead of Truth there?
VOTE: No one
What is the purpose of this? Why do you consistently feel No Lynches are a pro-town approach?
In post 1753, Truth wrote:That's a lot of questions, Glitch. I'll try answering the one about if I think po is mafia.
I think po is most likely mafia but he may be town. If he is town, then it would be really bad if he shot me with his vigilante. That is why I asked the vigilante whoever they are not to shoot me.
Blair ignored my question and I don't like this. I think mafia sometimes dodge questions that are hard to answer.
Why didn't you answer all of Glitch's questions?
Why are you trying to deflect to Blair to do what you just did?
I don't trust popopo or Blair, so following a plan they've proposed doesn't work for me.
I don't know which major wagons popopo is referring to. Also, how could town being wagoned point to an inactive scumteam?
What is the difference between your play as town and your play as scum?
Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:32 am
by popopopopopopo
unless there could be 2 vig?
Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:34 am
by Blair
There is a 0% chance of two Vigilantes in this setup, especially when one of them claimed VT until a Gunsmith outed them and then switched to Vigilante and claimed responsibility for the exact same shot I took.
Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:34 am
by Blair
You may commence flailing at your earliest convenience.
Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:42 am
by popopopopopopo
Might as well MC at this point
Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:47 am
by Blair
I don't think I really need to sell this any more, but in case there was any doubt - ask yourself, which of these two posts sounds more like the mindset of a town Vigilante being counterclaimed?
In post 1793, Blair wrote:There is a 0% chance of two Vigilantes in this setup, especially when one of them claimed VT until a Gunsmith outed them and then switched to Vigilante and claimed responsibility for the exact same shot I took.
I'm 100% certain Popopo is scum. Popopo, on the other hand, is busy setting himself up for my eventual town flip.
Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:01 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Did you suggest not lynching him because you wanted to shoot him?
Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:02 am
by Blair
Yes.
Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:03 am
by popopopopopopo
Yea that doesn't really make sense blair. Blair is clearly lying. First she gives instructions for the vig and lays out this plan to lynch elsewhere then for a fake vig to shoot me tonight, and then she turns around and claims vig herself. Scum really want me dead. Sad!
