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VC on this page.

i'm genuinely worried that this game we all might be vt LMAO

we should launch hectic for playing this prank on us

then launch whoever reviewed this setup and greenlight it

i mean alisae /in'd and then /out'd

so this would definitely be right up er alley - maybe e smelled the lolbalance coming

In post 1758, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 1756, Gloria Cleary wrote:

Spoiler:

In post 1752, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 1671, Gloria Cleary wrote:

In post 1667, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 1658, Infinity 324 wrote:I think we’re talking past each other so let’s work through this.

We have 4 possibilities:
There was at least 1 scum on dunn and dunn is scum: we both agree this is unlikely
There was at least 1 scum on dunn and dunn is town: I think this is the most likely scenario
There was no scum on dunn and dunn is scum: you think this is the most likely scenario, but I’m not convinced; it requires 4 players other than me to all be town, which is unlikely just by probability
There was no scum on dunn and dunn is town: also a possibility but unlikely by probability

Too much on probablility here

There was never really a case against me in the first place, it doesn't really matter whether it was town or scum that jumped on me (though I agree it's unlikely that they were all town)

Can you stop talking about anything other than you in this game or who’s pushing you etc. and actually talk about some other players and actually make reads?

I’m not extremely happy that is is probably the third time I’ve asked you this question and you continue to ignore it for some reason.

I will be keeping score if you also dodge this post as well. So besides tr Fea, sr Hopkirk and Pooky, what are your thoughts on the rest of the playerlist?

3rd time I’ve asked you this and next time you post in this thread I’m expecting an answer.

I'm not ignoring it, I gave you all I have

I have reads. I'm pushing one.

I can focus on things other than myself when you stop constantly making it about myself

My thoughts on the rest will come, but I don't think that's a priority right now

In post 1753, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 1672, Gloria Cleary wrote:1668 @Flea, I’m definitely talking about Dunn. I don’t tr the fact that he continues to ignore my request to give reads and if he continues to dodge this, I will likely be voting him.

Pooky is a bad vote and Isis is probably my top tr. I also need to hear more from Hopkirk.

Vote me then, you're not going to be able to pressure me into giving reads

I’m trying to sort you and giving reads is one of the ways that help me to sort. Do you have literally no opinions at all on any but the four you’ve already given opinions on?

I don't have enough scumreads to have a full team of scum

People I'm lightly tring include Infinity, Ydrasse, team rocket queen, yourself

I'm pretty sure there's scum in the camp of people defaulting to elimming me (hopkirk, pooky)

i kiiiiinda agree with the last sentiment but i need to reread, like, it feels a little lazy in a way that i'd not expect after that tgp flip. not as much re-evaluation as i'd want i guess? like, maybe i'm getting cold feet on sheeping whatever collective dunn read there was (because lbr, i have scarcely one except from this last page or so) but just saying "oh yeah, let's vote dunn next" without much else going into it makes me a little nyeeeeeh

VOTE: hectic

i hope our wagon does something

(disclaimer i will vote for real at some point but i'm actually counting that as a real vote right now too)

ydrasse have you never played with a killer mod before?

no but i'll kill them back

In post 1760, Infinity 324 wrote:

In post 1728, Ydrasse wrote:something about this gamestate just isn’t right... somethings shifted....

Talk to me about this

it feels like things are going in circles and ending up in the same damn place and after seeing tgp i'm wary basically

MOOOOORNIN!!!! (☞ﾟ∀ﾟ)☞

In post 1748, skitter30 wrote:

In post 1711, Flea The Magician wrote:What I'm challenging is the previous games had room for shenanigans. This one doesn't seem to.

up until now i was kinda thinking you were just unknowledgeable about the prior games but it's been explained to u a few times now how the game kinda like ~changes~ in the middle and it feels like you're just trying not to understand at this point

the natural ~changing~ moment in this game is after the second launch, which hasn't happened yet, so asserting that 'this one doesn't seem to' is premature

first game had no mention of VTs, second said vanilla in terms of power, this one says all town are VT.
I expect a change, I'm just not sure what this change will be and in terms of power there shouldn't be a change... Unless Hectic is about to royally mess with us. At which point, dibs jailkeeper!

In post 1751, Infinity 324 wrote:Flea is still locktown from page 36

YaY!

In post 1755, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 1728, Ydrasse wrote:something about this gamestate just isn’t right... somethings shifted....

People seem afraid to place a vote

Could be there's a lot of town reads :/ Like at this point my strongest SR is based on what's easily dismissed as a misunderstanding and difficulty in communication - which is not a valid vote reason. :/

In post 1761, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I'm a bit exhausted rn but I will catch up.

it feels like a lot of people have disappeared, more than just TGP.

The mood also feels kind of strange.

I think it's probably because Tweetie isn't around being her usually radiant self? Where did she go?

IKR it's like the game died

In post 1767, team rocket queen wrote:

In post 1759, Infinity 324 wrote:

In post 378, Isis wrote:I have a different paranoia where I remember how many times Hectic has joked to me about running all VT games lol

Is it too early to start seriously worrying about this?

i don't think that there would be plurality if this was the case. if you're going to send thirteen vanilla town pms i think you at least give town the option to not eliminate.

Can't we vote no lim?

In post 1768, Gloria Cleary wrote:

In post 1758, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 1756, Gloria Cleary wrote:

Spoiler:

In post 1752, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 1671, Gloria Cleary wrote:

In post 1667, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 1658, Infinity 324 wrote:I think we’re talking past each other so let’s work through this.

We have 4 possibilities:
There was at least 1 scum on dunn and dunn is scum: we both agree this is unlikely
There was at least 1 scum on dunn and dunn is town: I think this is the most likely scenario
There was no scum on dunn and dunn is scum: you think this is the most likely scenario, but I’m not convinced; it requires 4 players other than me to all be town, which is unlikely just by probability
There was no scum on dunn and dunn is town: also a possibility but unlikely by probability

Too much on probablility here

There was never really a case against me in the first place, it doesn't really matter whether it was town or scum that jumped on me (though I agree it's unlikely that they were all town)

Can you stop talking about anything other than you in this game or who’s pushing you etc. and actually talk about some other players and actually make reads?

I’m not extremely happy that is is probably the third time I’ve asked you this question and you continue to ignore it for some reason.

I will be keeping score if you also dodge this post as well. So besides tr Fea, sr Hopkirk and Pooky, what are your thoughts on the rest of the playerlist?

3rd time I’ve asked you this and next time you post in this thread I’m expecting an answer.

I'm not ignoring it, I gave you all I have

I have reads. I'm pushing one.

I can focus on things other than myself when you stop constantly making it about myself

My thoughts on the rest will come, but I don't think that's a priority right now

In post 1753, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 1672, Gloria Cleary wrote:1668 @Flea, I’m definitely talking about Dunn. I don’t tr the fact that he continues to ignore my request to give reads and if he continues to dodge this, I will likely be voting him.

Pooky is a bad vote and Isis is probably my top tr. I also need to hear more from Hopkirk.

Vote me then, you're not going to be able to pressure me into giving reads

I’m trying to sort you and giving reads is one of the ways that help me to sort. Do you have literally no opinions at all on any but the four you’ve already given opinions on?

I don't have enough scumreads to have a full team of scum

People I'm lightly tring include Infinity, Ydrasse, team rocket queen, yourself

I'm pretty sure there's scum in the camp of people defaulting to elimming me (hopkirk, pooky)

Thanks. I’m thinking that they are likely deep wolves in this game but no idea who yet.

Can... can I pet the doggos? U・ᴥ・U

In post 1770, Gloria Cleary wrote:

In post 1769, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 1767, team rocket queen wrote:i don't think that there would be plurality if this was the case. if you're going to send thirteen vanilla town pms i think you at least give town the option to not eliminate.

let's test it out

VOTE: Hectic

VOTE: Hectic

Choo choo

C'mon and do the coonnnga! VOTE: hectic

In post 1774, Ydrasse wrote:i maaaaaay or may not have uh. drank a little bit earlier and forgot about my promise. please, no yelling, no swatting.

Previously... wrote:

In post 1678, Ydrasse wrote:i’m also not home but when i am im gonna sit down and look properly at this game.

In post 1679, Ydrasse wrote:(yell at me if i dont)

... I'm very disappointed in you? （◞‸◟）

In post 1782, Ydrasse wrote:no but i'll kill them back

OK I lied I'm not. I approve of this. ᕙᓄ(☉ਊ☉)ᓄᕗ

Also I found a farting one! (ˆ⺫ˆ๑) <3
... Yes my humour is terrible. I am child. #ADHDLyf

In post 1621, Hopkirk wrote:I kinda get a bit bored when i've got a solid townblock and have been pretty busy this weekend. My reads haven't really changed tbh, but not having read the thread is probably a decent part of that.
I'll catch up tomorrow. If I don't then I deserve however mean Isis is afterwards

thumbtacks in the back pocket of your pants for one week

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Votecount 2.0.2

[1] PookyTheMagicalBear:

Dunnstral

[1] Dunnstral:

Hopkirk

[1] Hopkirk:

skitter30

[9] Not Voting:

Isis, Flea The Magician, Ydrasse, Gloria Cleary, Morning Tweet, PookyTheMagicalBear, team rocket queen, Gypyx, Infinity 324

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to launch. If there is no majority by the deadline, plurality will decide.

The deadline is in (expired on 2020-12-07 15:06:18).

Joint Mod ISO

In post 1644, Infinity 324 wrote:It’s more that scum would almost never vote dunn in that situation, and statistically there’s very likely at least one scum on that wagon (of 5 at its height, I believe)

ahhhhhh

wagonomics is a last resort for me.

My impulse tends to be that wagonomics matters a lot when it's, "wow what were we thinking, that miselim was really bad" and is a good bit weaker when it's "Yeah if I see this in my next three games I'll probably mess up three more times." I feel more like the latter than the former for TGP's wagon

In post 1658, Infinity 324 wrote:I think we’re talking past each other so let’s work through this.

We have 4 possibilities:
There was at least 1 scum on dunn and dunn is scum: we both agree this is unlikely
There was at least 1 scum on dunn and dunn is town: I think this is the most likely scenario
There was no scum on dunn and dunn is scum: you think this is the most likely scenario, but I’m not convinced; it requires 4 players other than me to all be town, which is unlikely just by probability
There was no scum on dunn and dunn is town: also a possibility but unlikely by probability

ahhhh wagonomics

In post 1665, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:im going to bed. u go to bed too then wake up and read what u r sayinf to me

this is cute

In post 1668, Flea The Magician wrote:OK meds taken, brain still foggy, body still achey, and for some reason my internal monologue went brain still FWWWWOOOOGGGGYYY! and now all I can picture the Big the Cat, or Gatto El Grande as he's also known lol

nuuuu
On brainfoggy day I do not see how Big the Cat is the feline that is helpful

I recommend Gato

Gato will make you a lullaby!

In post 1668, Flea The Magician wrote:I'm ngl, i kinda expected a meatier case on pooks from Infnity? Like I get the vibe and gut feeling and the aggression thing... and pooky isn't being as chill and fun as they were in DC - that said I'm not playing the same either so I can't really call it AI...

Pooky is more aggressive as scum imo but has aggressive moments with both alignments. But unless you analyze why he's being aggressive it's just a 51%/49% type of thing that isn't fadeworthy on its own.

In post 1671, Gloria Cleary wrote: Can you stop talking about anything other than you in this game or who’s pushing you etc. and actually talk about some other players and actually make reads?

MOOD

In post 1701, team rocket queen wrote:

In post 1699, Flea The Magician wrote:I didn't see that bit you quoted, so then I would assume that vanilla in terms of power means there's no outward abilities, such as cops or docs but potentially linked abilities or something that trades something for something else. for example the bodyguard role which dies when the target is killed.

I don't feel there's any way for a mechanical guilty to happen at all having seen that.

i think it means that there is no player given the role 'cop' but there is still plenty of ways for there to be a mechanical guilty. there were mechanical innocents in that game i really don't see how you are ruling out the possibility of mechanical guilties here.

You're right that nothing keeps a game with surprise midgame events from having mechanical guilties.
It probably doesn't have mechanical guilties though, because this was posted not too long before or after this game was designed

In post 1, Hectic wrote:100% agree. I also dislike the use of regular cops, I don't think it's particularly rewarding when scum is caught with an inescapable guilty.

I think mechanical innocents are likely to make a comeback though.

In post 1708, Ydrasse wrote:maybe it’s just because my thought process is the last game went wild and this one most likely will too and like, in the absence of knowing how it makes more sense just to scumhunt??

You're not wrong
Jessie loves mech and it brings her happy though

In post 1759, Infinity 324 wrote:1752 is a townpost. ISO'd ydrasse and she's still town.

In post 378, Isis wrote:I have a different paranoia where I remember how many times Hectic has joked to me about running all VT games lol

Is it too early to start seriously worrying about this?

lol
Hectic would never
or at bare minimum he wouldn't invite me

How did nobody call out the townslip equity in that infinity post?????

I could see Hectic running a game that's initially all VT.
Then we vote two people out.
Then they want revenge and pick scum or something.