why did you shift from scumreading anya to treating her as just pure chaos?
I still have a strong scumlean there, dont worry about that. Chaotic players are fun to poke and see how things happen. Anya isn't responding to pokes, theres something odd there but I can't read it well at the moment.
In post 1680, tris wrote:
how did bugspray climb out of the scumbin since 519?
They're not fully out. That push was still awful, looking at the wagon as I did, and nothing else really standing out to me as particuarlly off, they're in the leans but still in the bin. Theres other players for me to look at the moment.
I missed that one, sorry. The reads around me are absolutely terrible from that slot. There is no consistency, in the 2 or 3 pages before that I went from strong scumread to being out of the scumpile to now being both. The list was made <20mins after taking me out of the pile without a revision in the middle, null reads aren't listed. Why list me if I'm both?
Side note, for someone wanting to call the lurker police on me, he soon bloomin vanished
In post 1680, tris wrote:
i'm also curious about how your read on me has progressed since 421 which was a very weak reason to townread me. you even asked vfp about me later on, but didn't give any of your own reasons. speaking of which, i don't understand why you asked vfp about me. you said, “considering we've had the townFlow flip“, but i don't understand the connection there.
Post #469 is the link. VFP was basing their read of you based on the flow flip.
In post 1680, tris wrote:
i'm not seeing how you came to a outworlder scumread in 704
OWER was not sitting right with me for a while leading up to that point, a lot of their posts looked like they were trying to push for a reason to scumread.
hrrm. i'm going to let my thoughts percolate for a bit on flea. in the meantime i should catch up with today. also there's possibility of more flea posts soo
I suggest hazelnut and coffee to join those thoughts
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 1:05 am
by Flea The Magician
So, A50s working is:
{ Lend, OutworldER } Lend is established town. others town by PoE.
Scum [ OutworldER ]
Town [ Auro, Tris, Anya ]
{ Mastina, bugspray, Randy } Buspray is the scum in this group because VCA. Bugspray scum means Moz town means Vax Scum.
Todays grouping means in a 5:2, I'm town. Meaning T3 is scum from D1 groupings...
Scum [ bugspray, OutworldER, Vax, T3 ]
Town [ Auro, Tris, Anya, Mozamis, Randy, Mastina, Flea The Magician ]
...
Sorry theres moon logic then theres Io logic. This is a bastard voting game.
I'm down for OWER being eliminated, and would need to look at Vax because I genuinely forgot he was in this game. But I am not staying with the PoE because wtaf.
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 1:07 am
by Flea The Magician
In post 1708, MathBlade wrote:Mastina I am not asking you to claim I am asking you to verify what you’ve said with a yes no simple answer or with as few words as possible.
You said you are a mason. Is this correct? Yes or No.
You said you targeted someone with a power. Is this correct? Yes or No.
You said you received a letter. Is this correct? If so yes or no and what did it contain and who from?
And lastly have you watched any you tube or musicals recently?
I know I am being stubborn but I am asking for a reason.
In post 1735, Anya wrote:ok i'll claim i dunno exactly what it does but i'm a loyal messenger
VOTE: Anya
Seriously, I don't give a damn about the end result anymore. You need to be eliminated on principle.
1- Not knowing what your role does on D3 is just plain BULLSHIT
2- EVEN if it's true, then it shows incompetence at it's worst
3- You sending out messages to people who won't respond to it and serves no purpose is another utter bullshit move. Like, even if someone did receive a message saying "hi wolf",, what the freak are they supposed to do with that?
4- Eliminating you does the trick for me. If you flip green we've got 2 suspects in both your targets (although I would argue your "hint" on D2 gave away your role and thus you could have been blocked on N2). If you flip red though we know both Math and OutWorldER are Town (note that Out is in my solve, so that would prove my theory wrong anyway)
5, 6, 7, ... , X (sub n)= X (sub n-1) +1 : Your play sucks and you don't even care about the game. DIE.
Theory got yeeted anyway, bonus.
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 1:16 am
by Flea The Magician
Maths logic is pretty good here, ngl. A50 seems like a genuine reaction... then theres this.
Also something knowing in nerd circles as Cyberpunk Red happens too... and a lack of caffine..
Oooh a fellow cyberpunk lover tell me more!
Is this how one does the lighten up?
Do I need to find some helium?
Spoiler: Cyberpunk red current plot shenangians GRIMDARK CONTENT AHEAD
Soo I'm player a Rockerboy who is basically their life is on social media, and who got hold of a braindance of a famous performers swansong (as in, they woke up to a message that if the crowd asked for it, they would die that day, and they played their heart out before the crowd voted to kill him without realising)... I decided to make a song out of it using a lot of samples and may have rolled over 30 using my luck and exploding a 10 into another 10... It hits #1, earns me and my friend 200k€B... friend has robbed my Garden account and all the money. One of the party (a fixer) paid into getting the exclusive on the braindance and isn't happy someones had the balls to steal his cash.
and thats just my characters plot, never mind that we've pissed off a slumlord, some surfer nazis, the groups police officer has been paid to "investigate" a brothel dealing with some dodgy drugs and braindances. Guess where my character has an interest His uncle has also been assassinated.
Our fixer is having family issues and is both hunted and feared by the nomads... our sawbones is being blackmailed, and our decker (forgot the CPRed name for them) absoutely hates me because of the braindance song and is getting suspicious messages they absolutely cannot trace that seem helpful...
Yes, simply saying I didn’t get it would be enough for discussion but as soon as Anya did that it’s always a 1v1.
I just think ahead and I would be claiming in all possible worlds.
If you believe me and elim Anya I have to claim before EoD so you all know player X didn’t do the kill so that way when combined/backtracked you may be able to inno or guilty them later.
If you didn’t I would have to full claim at e - 1 anyway.
It’s a it was gonna happen so make it best as I could. I think strategically and me claiming gives you more to work with.
Honestly, 100% that was a good claim from Math. I cannot fault his play there at all.
is it making light of bullying? that's me saying i was joking and obviously wasn't feeling bullied
I don’t think you’re town but it’s more if you’re town this is extremely bad play.
The rest of this paragraph assumes you are town:
A> You fake claim a PR multiple times in a game.
A1> Something that sends you innocence earlier on
A2> Loyal messenger when it’s clearly fake.
B> You use that fake claim to then fake a check on me. This sort of arrogance is bad and is explained on several wikis. If you’re that sure someone is scum without a moderator check you should either a) look at why you feel that way and if you can explain it. If you can’t then likely you’re tunnelled. If you can then go for it. Your certainly level should match your ability to explain. If you have to “fake a guilty” that will do more harm than good for the long term health of the specific day/game. People will PR spec/hunt off it.
C> Rather than readjusting and unvoting and voting anyone else after me outing PR you opt to call me a bully when I haven’t done anything to merit that. Yes some of my posts were ugly and blatantly PR hunting but the difference was I had a reason. A vote on me and then pushing me for PR hunting good.
The fake claim and bullying comments really cross a line if you’re town.
I really don’t think you are.
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:13 am
by MathBlade
In post 1621, MathBlade wrote:So really late for me but I got a gist and I think it’s either
Moz + Tsu or Auro
Really sleepy and kinda skimmed twice but was super exhausted and didn’t have time for a fully read and had a hard time keeping track of some stuff and by the time I thought I would
mosey up to the thread again
it
sorta just went nowhere
. So the above is a mix of skim and gut. Wanna see where things go.
Mozamis went no where just like my push of him.
My goal was to see if he was scum or not due to the prior day being him + VFP wagons.
I think Moz is town based on that open but something still pings me weird.
Null read but mechanically more likely town.
I may be claiming this a tad early but I can’t count votes easy with this system.
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:41 am
by T3
Alright... I really don't see Anya playing like this as town.
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:44 am
by T3
VOTE: Anya
If this flips scum or town I would also want to go fo bugsray tomorrow. Mathblade is probably town.
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:45 am
by MathBlade
In post 1787, T3 wrote:Alright... I really don't see Anya playing like this as town.
I kinda think T3 is scum too
Reads list best guess:
{Mastina,Auro,T3, Tsu } << High probability
{{Lurkers}}
{Flea} << Gut probably wrong here but see if still a game
{Moz} << Can’t shake my gut scum but probably town mechanically
{Everyone else}
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:46 am
by MathBlade
In post 1788, T3 wrote:VOTE: Anya
If this flips scum or town I would also want to go fo bugsray tomorrow. Mathblade is probably town.
Why bugspray?
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:47 am
by T3
aPretty sure lend has hammer here.
ppedit: I sr bugspray for bwing and tone at this point.
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:53 am
by MathBlade
In post 1791, T3 wrote:aPretty sure lend has hammer here.
ppedit: I sr bugspray for bwing and tone at this point.
Bwing? What does that mean?
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:17 am
by Flea The Magician
In post 1784, Anya wrote:this game makes me sad get me out of here
i'm town but almost50 and flea seem to have something against me and i'd rather be out of the game
Playing victim doesnt cut it with me, this is the first I've said against you and it wont wash.
Bullying is bullshit and you clearly have no idea the effects it can have on people. There are some things you shouldnt joke about, even as an emissary of chaos.
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:32 am
by Anya
i've been bullied before
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:32 am
by Anya
i don't like you
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:43 am
by Anya
i'm not posting or reading this game anymore
it makes me feel genuinely terrible
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:27 am
by T3
Anya this AtE is making you even more suspicious. Anyways, you're basically confirmed mafia.
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:29 am
by T3
Abnd if you're not mafia, then we automatically have two mafia.
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:29 am
by Flea The Magician
I'm indifferent yet cautious towards you. I dont see why that matters.
Leaving the game is just going to be anti-town, and given what you've done so far with forcing a claim, you wont be helping youself.
Why did you claim Loyal Messenger? What were you hoping to get from that?
