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Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 12:47 pm
by Chara
Tweetie: do you scumread Nakata? it seems like you would, and perhaps it's just because you really want Ircher, but it feels like you're more willing to come up with reasons not to vote Nakata while acknowledging that there is a bunch of stuff from the slot that's suspicious.

pedit: i suppose i misunderstand what you were saying? that's how it felt looking at your posts.

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 12:48 pm
by Morning Tweet
Yin
, is there at least one criminal within Morning Tweet, Tanner, and Infinity?

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 12:54 pm
by Morning Tweet
In post 1775, Chara wrote:Tweetie: do you scumread Nakata? it seems like you would, and perhaps it's just because you really want Ircher, but it feels like you're more willing to come up with reasons not to vote Nakata while acknowledging that there is a bunch of stuff from the slot that's suspicious.

pedit: i suppose i misunderstand what you were saying? that's how it felt looking at your posts.
Nakata's playstyle is an anomaly to me -- see: their paper thin scumreads on myself and Amy that somehow manages to influence their read on other slots. Somehow me being scummy erased ircher's crimes in his eyes, for example.

Additionally, I'm a bit perplexed at them clinging on to anything that will help them, like me "scumslipping" or Yin supposedly revealing Ircher is town which therefore means Nakata's scumread on me is correct (?????). Especially considering they have played with me before, it's odd.

So I wouldn't fight axeing them -- but I think Ircher's cirmes are greater, and I can more easily see Ircher using his "alternative playstyle" thing as an excuse to not have much in the way of reads nor helping. Nakata voting me because they think they're going to die (?) doesn't make sense but i will grant that it's probably a little more likely to come from town. Like mayyybe it makes sense to go out assuring everyone im scum even if it's probably like a gut read on his part. It doesn't make a lot of sense for scum to do

And while you could argue Ircher's play doesnt make sense for scum to do, i think there was merit to staying in the background and shading the primary wagons. And the self hammer trolling is just WIFOM. Dunno

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:01 pm
by Ircher
@Yin
: 你好吗?

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:03 pm
by clidd
Infinity seems to be under the influence of something. I don't think her posting is being forced, but there seems to be some non-visible element that's causing the apathy.

Maybe it's connected to whatever is affecting Robert and Ircher, but meh, hard to say.

It can be mechanical or simply a life setback (outside the game).

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:09 pm
by clidd
Personally speaking, I prefer to keep the pool between Ircher and Nakata.

A wagon on Infinity doesn't look very good in the period of time that we have and there are worse slots than Infinity to elim (more informative too).

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:30 pm
by clidd
If I were to say ''which is the best elim'' between the two (without preference bias), however, Ircher stills comparatively a better elim.

Nakata can be read properly as he is generating content.

Ircher, on the other hand, will likely continue this erratic posting pattern (which is much less readable) and will be a problem if he stays alive in the game.

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:37 pm
by clidd
I mean, our goal is to eliminate scum, but problematic slots can sometimes be more harmful than scum.

That doesn't mean I'm going to change my vote, of course, but looking at the game, impartially, it's undeniable that Ircher is a slot that can't be ignored.

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:58 pm
by Infinity 324
I will get to this tomorrow I'm very tired

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 2:03 pm
by clidd
In other words, my mind is like:

Nakata elim -> Better for % of hitting scum;
Ircher elim -> Better for the game;

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 2:04 pm
by clidd
@Infinity

Ok, don't forget to answer (if possible) my last two questions to you.

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 2:04 pm
by Infinity 324
I will

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 5:34 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 1753, clidd wrote:So.. No reaction from Infinity?
I think it's kinda sus how they're saying: "they don't know how to react". If i had a townread that was very suspicious of me i would try really hard to convince the person why i am town here, and i feel like that is something Infinity would put energy into doing based on meta.

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 5:38 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 1760, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 1743, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I keep having visions of Pooky laughing at me in a scum PT somewhere, and Infinity is there too. The whole gang! All laughing and pointing at me.
I don't need a scum PT to laugh at you

you're adoorbs <3
Pook in his PT:

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 5:49 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
How about we all stay a bit more co-operative by having attitudes that are more like: "Sure it's not my preferred elimination but we can eliminate X, however if they flip town we're absolutely doing Y tomorrow." instead of having this constant battle of actually getting a wagon through because some person keeps saying they think there is 0.1% chance that slot could be town so we all need to unvote and wagon their preferred scumread since they won't use their vote any other way.
Maybe that thing about there being 6 scum and 7 town is true for this game too and it's impossible to actually wagon scum because town just never agrees on one good elimination.

I would hammer any of Ircher/Nakata/Infinity, just let a wagon get to E-1 so i can hammer them PLEASE.

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 5:56 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
I think Datisi has a point about Robert. Their activity seems to be directly correlated with how strongly they are being pushed.
Which doesn't necessarily have to be scummy, but it sure feels like it.

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 5:57 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
I would also like to hammer someone

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:09 pm
by Yin
It is past midnight.

Something approaches.

In post 1691, Flea The Magician wrote:
@YinIn votecount 1.11, how many scum are voting Nakata?
At least 1.
In post 1768, Tanner wrote:
yin
, is there a criminal between Tanner, Ydrasse, and Ircher?
Yes there is.
In post 1772, Chara wrote:
@Yin:
are you Yang?
I'm Yin. Yang is Yang.
In post 1776, Morning Tweet wrote:
Yin
, is there at least one criminal within Morning Tweet, Tanner, and Infinity?
The longest-running children's animated series in the US is PBS' Arthur.
In post 1778, Ircher wrote:
@Yin
: 你好吗?
I'm fine. thanks! :D

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:23 pm
by Tanner
In post 1656, Yin wrote:
In post 1290, clidd wrote:
Yin

- Are there any truly criminal between
Amy Dunne, Ydrasse and Ircher?
No there are not.
In post 1792, Yin wrote:
In post 1768, Tanner wrote:
yin
, is there a criminal between Tanner, Ydrasse, and Ircher?
Yes there is.
interesting. either the answers really are random, or being a criminal isn't about alignment.

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:24 pm
by Robert M Hunter
In post 1789, NorwegianboyEE wrote:How about we all stay a bit more co-operative by having attitudes that are more like: "Sure it's not my preferred elimination but we can eliminate X, however if they flip town we're absolutely doing Y tomorrow." instead of having this constant battle of actually getting a wagon through because some person keeps saying they think there is 0.1% chance that slot could be town so we all need to unvote and wagon their preferred scumread since they won't use their vote any other way.
Maybe that thing about there being 6 scum and 7 town is true for this game too and it's impossible to actually wagon scum because town just never agrees on one good elimination.

I would hammer any of Ircher/Nakata/Infinity, just let a wagon get to E-1 so i can hammer them PLEASE.
I strongly agree with this post and I am doing my part voting for Ircher.

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:25 pm
by Robert M Hunter
In post 1793, Tanner wrote:interesting. either the answers really are random, or being a criminal isn't about alignment.
That's one of the reasons I haven't bothered asking questions, I assumed it was going to be BS.

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:27 pm
by Tanner
also, here's a take: the fact that this game seems to have died down now that there's a semi-viable wagon on infinity suggests that nakata and ircher are both town and scum doesn't want to change targets of the yeet. which is also +scum for infinity. you'd think if there were scum in ircher/nakata, someone would be making sure that something else goes through, or fuck at least *they* would be voting their coungerwagon.

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:28 pm
by Tanner
In post 1795, Robert M Hunter wrote:
In post 1793, Tanner wrote:interesting. either the answers really are random, or being a criminal isn't about alignment.
1
That's one of the reasons I haven't bothered asking questions, I assumed it was going to be BS.
lol i thought i was scum to you?

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:28 pm
by Robert M Hunter
Why wouldn't the scum push their partners for townie brownie points when it looks inevitable?

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:29 pm
by Tanner
because no wagon is inevitable right now?