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In post 1774, Nero Cain wrote:Mega, I haven't flipped town yet. Y did you stop scumreading me?

because he got sussed for it when he disappeared

In post 1772, MegAzumarill wrote:They reacted with a very similar frustration to my own with Nero's shenanigans. I'd put them at a townlean right now. But Kitty didn't give any of their own reasons of their own for their reads on T3 OR Gamma.

I didn't really understand the push on Gamma yesterday though, so that may skew things.

Gamma yesterday for inflating their post count, which was met with "BRUH" which Cheeky subsequently thought we were SvS for or something like that.

Frustration is null but gamma has very much been frustrated as scum b4

Chalk it up to TSTBS for now, plus the scumteams I would partner you with look a whole lot townier on reread.

I'll pull up some quotes for my tl on Gamma in a sec.

Wait you thought I was scum for inflating my post count?
If I wanted to post more as scum I think I’d try to make it something more substantial than the random questions you seemed to take issue with.

Late arrival, but uh why isn't Cheeky dead? She claimed Mason.

Gonna do some catch up responses in a bit. Atm I'm between wanting StD or Dwlee gone. StD TMI'd T3 as town, and Dwlee made a few opportunistic wagon hops and is acting way more assertive than their usual town self.

And no Dwlee this isn't meta, it's a vibe check, so you can't get mad.

Nero Cain wrote:Y is scum reading gamma such a no no for everyone?

I have no problem with it, they'd be my third choice for today's elim. I think people are just afraid of getting scum read for it since there already seems to be a narrative that Gamma is mis-elim bait.

Testa/Cyrus slot is my fourth choice but may sky rocket to 1st if they're actually scum, since Cyrus tends to spew his alignment with just a minor amount of pressure.

In post 1779, Gamma Emerald wrote:the random questions you seemed to take issue with.

Yes, where did those questions lead you exactly?

Not much of anywhere but that’s because a lot of them were at you or DGB, who I was basically just trying to parse out the less agreeable things I saw because I felt like you two were town and didn’t want to tilt out of those reads for one thing that pinged me

Cheeky isn't dead bc her reads are bad. Not impossible she's scum but the former seems p likely to me.

Or the flip side could be possible

In post 1600, Gamma Emerald wrote:Subject: Large Normal 235: Large Normal With No Multiball [Night 1]

Nero Cain wrote:Also I'm not shading you 2. I legit think you are sus for town reading him. I have experience of std misreading scum so I'm not all that concerned especially when he's been sitting on scum all day. He's stubborn.

First off you’re full of shit because I know you’ve seen me defend scum before via sheer length of experience but somehow StD gets an allowance for that while I don’t. Second,

suck a fat wad of shit

because my TR ended up correct!

This kind of directionless frustration feels like its unlikely to come from scum. I feel like scum would try to put Nero's poor reasoning to some use of them, but this doesn't feel like its pushing an agenda. I also find it unlikely that scum with the whole nightphase would enter the day with this kind of bold statement without trying to push something.

Also reading through their posts they seem to have a good number of relevant posts and their read progression seems natural to me. Ex. Their TR on DGB was pretty closely after DGB started massively improving their posts' quality (circa post 500)

I'm too scummy to be scum. What a clown


Oh....

In post 1676, Shrek wrote: right now, me/cheeky/lq/nero/possibly roden is the townbloc that i feel most comfortable with. i also wouldnt be opposed to dotw joining that because hes been relatively proactive in trying to find out who the scum are

What made you change your read on me? I feel like we backed off of each other without much fanfare. On my end it's mainly because I made a bit of a fool out of myself that one night and realized your stance was more reasonable than I gave it credit for.

It feels off to me that std is being scumread for town reading t3 but gamma and a50 get a pass?

In post 1783, Nero Cain wrote:Cheeky isn't dead bc her reads are bad. Not impossible she's scum but the former seems p likely to me.

Why did you laugh when I said it?

A50 can maybe die. Gamma is not the lim today.

In post 1788, Nero Cain wrote:It feels off to me that std is being scumread for town reading t3 but gamma and a50 get a pass?

Do you not realize how much of a basket case you’re being with this? I called you out for the inverse and you got defensive.

In post 1790, CheekyTeeky wrote:A50 can maybe die. Gamma is not the lim today.

It was funny that you were contemplating your reads being bad and then suggesting that your gamma read was the end all be all

It's also possible that you don't have "bad" reads but just an overinflated ego

In post 1788, Nero Cain wrote:It feels off to me that std is being scumread for town reading t3 but gamma and a50 get a pass?

Quoting for relevance.

In post 1792, Nero Cain wrote:

In post 1790, CheekyTeeky wrote:A50 can maybe die. Gamma is not the lim today.

It was funny that you were contemplating your reads being bad and then suggesting that your gamma read was the end all be all

It's also possible that you don't have "bad" reads but just an overinflated ego

What? Lol

In post 1780, Roden wrote:Dwlee made a few opportunistic wagon hops and is acting way more assertive than their usual town self.

And no Dwlee this isn't meta, it's a vibe check, so you can't get mad.

That's literally meta

In post 1787, Roden wrote:

In post 1676, Shrek wrote: right now, me/cheeky/lq/nero/possibly roden is the townbloc that i feel most comfortable with. i also wouldnt be opposed to dotw joining that because hes been relatively proactive in trying to find out who the scum are

What made you change your read on me? I feel like we backed off of each other without much fanfare. On my end it's mainly because I made a bit of a fool out of myself that one night and realized your stance was more reasonable than I gave it credit for.

my trs are townreading you and im null on you since i think your content has improved, so im ok with putting you in the townbloc if other people want

My playstyle varies. Also "opportunistic wagon hopping" is just not true. Yesterday I RVS voted, was the first one on T3, was on Gamma for a bit, then got back into T3.

In post 1793, LicketyQuickety wrote:

In post 1788, Nero Cain wrote:It feels off to me that std is being scumread for town reading t3 but gamma and a50 get a pass?

Quoting for relevance.

I am letting Nero be with this nonsense because I know it's no use arguing with him. You though I don't think the same applies.

I want you to stop for a minute and ask yourself this: Would Scum!You have gladiated Gamma the way T3 did? Even regardless of Gamma's alignment, I don't think any sane player would have done it as Scum.

I think Gamma TR'd T3 when the latter started backing off of him when Gamma's wagon looked inevitable, and -again- I ask you: Would Scum!You have acted the way T3 did? I mean, you pushed someone to the verge on an elimination, and then you say "my case was weak"?? There are only two possible outcomes for this IMHO: Either the Gamma wagon would have went through anyway, or -what actually happened- T3 dies instead. If Gamma was the lim; he would have flipped either red or green. Upon a red flip T3 would have been called a partner who tried to distance and it went badly so he tried saving his partner. There's no way T3 wouldn't have been the lim today. If Gamma flipped green; T3 would still have been today's lim under the assumption he was trying to wash his hands off Gamma's blood.

So, you see.. no matter how you sliced it, it was suicidal play by T3 which never ever comes from scum (unless you think T3 a moron, which I don't think is the case).

Plain and simple, T3 was "hard towning" so to speak, and then was "Town flailing" to the point he was literally oozing Town. He had a sign pinned to his forehead that reads "I am Town you boobs". Too bad I wasn't here when the day ended (I had logged on shortly before the thread was locked and couldn't even read a full page before it happened)

The way it's been going I can't get one confident SR because everyone seems to be fixated on pushing someone in particular regardless of what the pushed player says or does, and that's going to make it hard for me to sheep anyone because I don't trust anyone's reads.