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In post 1757, Miss Midnight wrote:

In post 1659, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:To be honest, I'm kind of getting cold feet on the Gamma wagon too. His lack of confidence in his reads feels genuine.

Mm, still not really feeling it. His basically dropping of his read on me seems to me like wanting to get away from a subject that he looked bad on and have it be forgotten as soon as possible. From his perspective as theoretical town, I was the scum basically spearheading his miselimination. With a read like that, you either keep calling for that person's death up until your own, or if you change your mind on them you'd certainly make some point of explaining it. The the nonexplained dropping of the read into just move onto another vote, and then another shift of course onto the only viable counterwagon doesn't seem genuine to me. It reads more like he thought that he could win when it came to the competing wagon with me, that didn't pan out and then he moved onto the only other one that could work, while trying to drop everything he said about me because it didn't look good.

In post 1771, PenguinPower wrote:Feel free to be snarky because I am saying that.

Without trying to come across as snarky, let me know when you want to tell me why I’m next in line.

In post 1776, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:

In post 1757, Miss Midnight wrote:

In post 1659, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:To be honest, I'm kind of getting cold feet on the Gamma wagon too. His lack of confidence in his reads feels genuine.

Mm, still not really feeling it. His basically dropping of his read on me seems to me like wanting to get away from a subject that he looked bad on and have it be forgotten as soon as possible. From his perspective as theoretical town, I was the scum basically spearheading his miselimination. With a read like that, you either keep calling for that person's death up until your own, or if you change your mind on them you'd certainly make some point of explaining it. The the nonexplained dropping of the read into just move onto another vote, and then another shift of course onto the only viable counterwagon doesn't seem genuine to me. It reads more like he thought that he could win when it came to the competing wagon with me, that didn't pan out and then he moved onto the only other one that could work, while trying to drop everything he said about me because it didn't look good.

I think this would depend on how confident he was in his scumread. It looked like he was resigned to his own elim since he didn't really have any good scumreads.

Although I'm not sure how to interpret his 1758

In post 1777, Miss Midnight wrote:

In post 1771, PenguinPower wrote:Feel free to be snarky because I am saying that.

Without trying to come across as snarky, let me know when you want to tell me why I’m next in line.

Sure. I think you've done basically no scumhunting while pretending at various points like you have. It seems to me like you have almost no conviction in any reads. Exactly like you say, I think you've been snarky a lot, but to my recollection almost none of it has been in the service of or during the discussion of some strongly held read you have, it's mostly just been random conversations that aren't really alignment relevant. I think that none of these things would be true if you were town. You clearly have this attitude (not to imply it's a bad thing) when someone calls you a "follower", or when someone says they didn't realize prods were 36 hours, or various other things. It seems to me like

some kind of interaction of this sort

would have happened regarding some read you had, were you town. And again, those other things I mentioned first, like a seeming lack of scumhunting.

In post 1781, PenguinPower wrote:Also comparing reading players to reading rules is not a good look.

Two totally different things. One is veeeeerrrry objective.

In post 1777, Miss Midnight wrote:You clearly have this attitude (not to imply it's a bad thing) when someone calls you a "follower", or when someone says they didn't realize prods were 36 hours,

In post 1778, Miss Midnight wrote:

In post 1776, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:

In post 1757, Miss Midnight wrote:

In post 1659, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:To be honest, I'm kind of getting cold feet on the Gamma wagon too. His lack of confidence in his reads feels genuine.

Mm, still not really feeling it. His basically dropping of his read on me seems to me like wanting to get away from a subject that he looked bad on and have it be forgotten as soon as possible. From his perspective as theoretical town, I was the scum basically spearheading his miselimination. With a read like that, you either keep calling for that person's death up until your own, or if you change your mind on them you'd certainly make some point of explaining it. The the nonexplained dropping of the read into just move onto another vote, and then another shift of course onto the only viable counterwagon doesn't seem genuine to me. It reads more like he thought that he could win when it came to the competing wagon with me, that didn't pan out and then he moved onto the only other one that could work, while trying to drop everything he said about me because it didn't look good.

I think this would depend on how confident he was in his scumread. It looked like he was resigned to his own elim since he didn't really have any good scumreads.

Although I'm not sure how to interpret his 1758

Elaborate on the confidence point as well as the point about being resigned? Even if I knew the bell already tolled for me, I'd be screaming at people to get whoever I thought was scum if they were the one who had gotten me killed, or drove my wagon.

In post 1773, Miss Midnight wrote:

In post 1734, Thor Ragnarok wrote:When she's here, she seems very interested in the game and energetic. So it doesn't correlate that she's had very long stretches of inactivity and had to be prodded twice. It means that interest and engagement when she is here may be fake, since she seems disinterested to post actively outside of it.

Fuck off.

In post 1785, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:If Gamma were strongly scumreading you (just as an example), I would fully expect him to do everything to avert his own elim and scream for your elim instead. But if he's not that confident in his scumread or any read, then I don't really expect him to kick and yell going down.

In post 1788, Thor Ragnarok wrote:

In post 1773, Miss Midnight wrote:

In post 1734, Thor Ragnarok wrote:When she's here, she seems very interested in the game and energetic. So it doesn't correlate that she's had very long stretches of inactivity and had to be prodded twice. It means that interest and engagement when she is here may be fake, since she seems disinterested to post actively outside of it.

Fuck off.

Why this reaction?

In post 1789, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:I think there are some players that would never go down without a fight as town, but Gamma doesn't strike me as one of those players.

In post 495, Miss Midnight wrote:I often like to pretend to be super cool by shrouding myself in mystery and being enigmatic

In post 1792, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:That's one way to read his hop onto ManateeGal -- when other people pointed out how much they disliked his push on you, he dropped it.

In post 1794, Thor Ragnarok wrote:

In post 495, Miss Midnight wrote:I often like to pretend to be super cool by shrouding myself in mystery and being enigmatic

So much for this huh