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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:10 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 1773, Sanae wrote:I'm not going to outguess the mod about whether Ascetic makes sense or not because it's just flavor spec and we have had an amazing start and I'm not going to lose the game on flavor spec when imo there is a locked down mechwin right in front of us.
We simply need Norwee to clear one more person to get to auto-win.
We elim LLD today - I am very certain the game ends.
If not, Norwee "clears" Gamma.
Yukari doctors Norwee.
At 5 alive we have 2 elims for Me/Yukari.
You can kill me first and Yukari last - there is no way scum can win in this scenario as every uncleared person is eliminated.
This is a very simple win that doesn't require any bells and whistles - we don't have to guess whether LLD is Scum Ascetic etc.
This plan still loses to Norwee scum, where as mine doesn't.
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:11 am
by NorwegianboyEE
So does anyone think i'm scum?
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:22 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
You're a 1-2% chance.
You keep doing this thing where you go "YOU THINK I'M SCUM WAAAH" when I've clearly ordered you LOWER THAN ME ON THE DEATH PRIO LIST.
You being scum is a very very miniscule odds at this point, but there ARE odds and it's worth playing such that those odds don't exist.
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:27 am
by Sanae
There is just no way Norwegian Boy is scum.
This game is basically over.
VOTE: LLD
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:29 am
by Sanae
NorwegianBoy is town by dayplay and nightplay and has a MD result on him doing nothing on N1 that basically hard-clears him given what Kilgamayan flipped.
It also makes no sense for NorwegianBoy to "clear" RegRider if he's scum.
You are just grasping for straws at this point.
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:34 am
by Yukari Yakumo
In post 1773, Sanae wrote:I'm not going to outguess the mod about whether Ascetic makes sense or not because it's just flavor spec and we have had an amazing start and I'm not going to lose the game on flavor spec when imo there is a locked down mechwin right in front of us.
We simply need Norwee to clear one more person to get to auto-win.
We elim LLD today - I am very certain the game ends.
If not, Norwee "clears" Gamma.
Yukari doctors Norwee.
At 5 alive we have 2 elims for Me/Yukari.
You can kill me first and Yukari last - there is no way scum can win in this scenario as every uncleared person is eliminated.
This is a very simple win that doesn't require any bells and whistles - we don't have to guess whether LLD is Scum Ascetic etc.
Scum won't make a kill N5 ever.
That brings D6 with Gamma/You/Me uncleared.
Who dies first then?
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:34 am
by Yukari Yakumo
Uh, I mean N4 and D5 respectively.
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:39 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Wasn’t Gamma gonna post a thing. I’m not voting until that.
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:40 am
by Sanae
In post 1780, Yukari Yakumo wrote: In post 1773, Sanae wrote:I'm not going to outguess the mod about whether Ascetic makes sense or not because it's just flavor spec and we have had an amazing start and I'm not going to lose the game on flavor spec when imo there is a locked down mechwin right in front of us.
We simply need Norwee to clear one more person to get to auto-win.
We elim LLD today - I am very certain the game ends.
If not, Norwee "clears" Gamma.
Yukari doctors Norwee.
At 5 alive we have 2 elims for Me/Yukari.
You can kill me first and Yukari last - there is no way scum can win in this scenario as every uncleared person is eliminated.
This is a very simple win that doesn't require any bells and whistles - we don't have to guess whether LLD is Scum Ascetic etc.
Scum won't make a kill N5 ever.
That brings D6 with Gamma/You/Me uncleared.
Who dies first then?
if LLD flips town you can kill me first
I'll bet the game on Gamma town
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:41 am
by Yukari Yakumo
Also I'd rather deal with ascetic than strongman, which we start need to worry about if we lim LLD today.
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:42 am
by Sanae
In post 1381, Yukari Yakumo wrote:N1 was on Reg because I really wanted him to grant the wish and my protect being able to protect only one kill most likely meant no scum strongman.
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:43 am
by Yukari Yakumo
Oh right. I forgot about that.
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:47 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 1784, Yukari Yakumo wrote:Also I'd rather deal with ascetic than strongman, which we start need to worry about if we lim LLD today.
You probably have GE, you and maybe Strange's vote you can convince.
and are never getting Sanae or Reg, I guess?
so convincing Norwee that the plan we have is better than Sanae's, or you're locked into a 3-3 which Strange will probably vote me to end.
IDK, like, It's obvious to me which plan is better but...
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:56 am
by Yukari Yakumo
I mean personally ascetic in any alignment makes zero sense with a scum redirector and town hider.
It's actually super easy to prove that LLD isn't ascetic too. Just have LLD remove the immortality (which is an action) and have SM hide behind her to prove that she acted.
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:57 am
by Yukari Yakumo
But no matter how people try to spin it, it's pretty obvious that they're going for "I don't want to die first."
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:59 am
by Yukari Yakumo
In post 1788, Yukari Yakumo wrote:I mean personally ascetic in any alignment makes zero sense with a scum redirector and town hider.
It's actually super easy to prove that LLD isn't ascetic too. Just have LLD remove the immortality (which is an action) and have SM hide behind her to prove that she acted.
If SM can act again next night, that means LLD wasn't ascetic.
If SM cannot act again next night, that means LLD was ascetic (thus lying scum).
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 7:02 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1790, Yukari Yakumo wrote: In post 1788, Yukari Yakumo wrote:I mean personally ascetic in any alignment makes zero sense with a scum redirector and town hider.
It's actually super easy to prove that LLD isn't ascetic too. Just have LLD remove the immortality (which is an action) and have SM hide behind her to prove that she acted.
If SM can act again next night, that means LLD wasn't ascetic.
If SM cannot act again next night, that means LLD was ascetic (thus lying scum).
Is this certain?
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 7:03 am
by Yukari Yakumo
LLD will have to confirm whether her taking off immortality is considered as an action.
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 7:04 am
by Yukari Yakumo
In post 1486, StrangeMatter wrote:I get the feeling we can easily win this game now. Plus I have some information from I believe N3 that I couldn't say yesterday for what I'll say now. Norweegian did not use any abilities during that night, specifically because I just realized what my role CAN do. I am Eternity Larva, a hider with the added ability that
if my target doesn't make an action[/n] I cannot use my ability which I couldn't use N4.
I don't see why Norweegian as scum would just decide to not use an ability, but yeah looking back I now think if Norweegian claims who he targetted tonight we get around what I consider three confirms today.
and this doesn't say anything about "visiting" so
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 7:05 am
by Yukari Yakumo
In post 1793, Yukari Yakumo wrote: In post 1486, StrangeMatter wrote:I get the feeling we can easily win this game now. Plus I have some information from I believe N3 that I couldn't say yesterday for what I'll say now. Norweegian did not use any abilities during that night, specifically because I just realized what my role CAN do. I am Eternity Larva, a hider with the added ability that
if my target doesn't make an action
I cannot use my ability which I couldn't use N4.
I don't see why Norweegian as scum would just decide to not use an ability, but yeah looking back I now think if Norweegian claims who he targetted tonight we get around what I consider three confirms today.
and this doesn't say anything about "visiting" so
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 7:52 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Also of note, Kilgamayan voted LLD in the beginning in a way that seemed a bit performative before settling on hardpushing for Sanae.
Seems like weird behaviour to have if Sanae was their scum partner.
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:03 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 253, Yukari Yakumo wrote:I like how I instinctly knew that it was Maria posting even without knowing who the hydra members are.
I've checked Yukari's ISO and it doesn't seem like they are alligned with the scum slots. This post especially made me think it's something scum!Yukari wouldn't post because it's kinda awkward to act like you "know" who one of the hydra members in a scum hydra is if you were informed.
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:05 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 1, unwnd wrote:Lukewarm StrangeMatter
Cobra Kai Sanae
NorweegianboyEE
Yukari Yakumo
Lady Lambdadelta
Gamma Emerald
RegRider
Clear Regrider, Gamma, Yukari, Sanae, Strangematter.
Yep, it's just LLD.
No mech solve needed.
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:08 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Also it makes sense it was easier to wagon scum if one of the mafia slots does not have a vote. That swings the game more in favor of town because one mafia can only use their voice. And unfortunately not to the level they wanted, as LLD tried to kill me on day 1 but failed to convince anyone. They've also defended both flipped scum so far.
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:09 am
by RegRider
If anyone wants me to justify my LLD vote, just look at #1775 and #1777
"This plan fails against a Scum!Norwee. BTW I don't think Norwee is scum."