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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 3:48 pm
by Titus
I didn't investigate Frog. I did crumb my result which woyld be evident on my flip. No hard inno.

Suspect about 3 invests.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 3:48 pm
by MathBlade
In post 1771, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1766, MathBlade wrote:Works for me
I don't get the crumb.
The panda is following along with the human because it’s being clingy

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 3:49 pm
by MathBlade
In post 1773, Titus wrote:I didn't investigate Frog. I did crumb my result which woyld be evident on my flip. No hard inno.

Suspect about 3 invests.
Then cool. Then there is a scum in Pooky and Titus.

Pooky said one thing.

You say another.

I was right to force it.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 3:50 pm
by Frogsterking
In post 1770, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1768, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I'm pretty sure we're all town and I didn't need to claim anything to figure this out
I think we did because 5 town confirmed in 16P is not normal.

It’s a golden rule of normals that you don’t have that many confirms.
How do we have 5 town confirmed?

We don't even have 5 confirmed role claims let alone alignments.

Pedit:

That crumb doesn't float with me. I think pooky is trying to phish Titus.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 3:51 pm
by MathBlade
In post 1776, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1770, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1768, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I'm pretty sure we're all town and I didn't need to claim anything to figure this out
I think we did because 5 town confirmed in 16P is not normal.

It’s a golden rule of normals that you don’t have that many confirms.
How do we have 5 town confirmed?

We don't even have 5 confirmed role claims let alone alignments.

Pedit:

That crumb doesn't float with me. I think pooky is trying to phish Titus.
It works for me.

It’s between Pooky and Titus anyway.

Pooky says Titus visited Frog.

Titus said she didn’t.

Bus drivers and redirects aren’t normal.

So 1v1 time

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 3:52 pm
by MathBlade
In post 1776, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1770, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1768, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I'm pretty sure we're all town and I didn't need to claim anything to figure this out
I think we did because 5 town confirmed in 16P is not normal.

It’s a golden rule of normals that you don’t have that many confirms.
How do we have 5 town confirmed?

We don't even have 5 confirmed role claims let alone alignments.

Pedit:

That crumb doesn't float with me. I think pooky is trying to phish Titus.
I said IF everyone was truthtelling we could.

Since we have a liar that doesn’t apply.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 3:53 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
what I didnt say Titus visited Frog

I said I followed Titus

Followers are not trackers

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 3:54 pm
by MathBlade
In post 1779, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:what I didnt say Titus visited Frog

I said I followed Titus

Followers are not trackers
Rip I got them backwards

I was so excited I thought I caught a scum :(

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 3:55 pm
by MathBlade
Going to go crumb hunting for Titus to see if all of us are town or not. Because if we are we should coordinate.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:02 pm
by Frogsterking
In post 1505, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1475, schadd_ wrote:
Spoiler:
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vote count 2.3 !


furtiveglance (3):
Enchant, Cape90, marcistar
Save The Dragons (2):
Big Chungus Gaming, Frogsterking
marcistar (2):
furtiveglance, PookyTheMagicalBear
Big Chungus Gaming (2):
Save The Dragons, MathBlade
MalcolmTucker (1):
MariaR
MathBlade (1):
Titus

not voting (3):
Not_Mafia, MalcolmTucker, Toogeloo


with 14 alive, it takes 8 to blow someone up. day 2 starts now and ends in (expired on 2022-10-23 14:51:54)


modorator notes
  • prodding mariar & big chungus gaming
I'm fine Townblocking Cape, Enchant, MT, Toogle and Titus in no particular order, and pseudo-townblocking marci and BGC contingent on how the next couple of Days play out. It takes 8 to eliminate so I prefer the Townblock be voting together.

If any of you 7 have issues with anyone else I named then now is the time to fight it out rather than later.

I prefer to eliminate Dragons because I think they are being careful to make sure their ISO is mostly useless after they flip scum, and I want to test BGC to get a better guage for how full of shit they are.
Math if I add you and NM to this list, does the resulting PoE make sense with the VCA from yesterday?

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:05 pm
by MathBlade
I figured out part of what Titus is crumbing but I will keep that to myself I think if she’s town.

The other part I can’t quite figure out.

@Frogger
I would have to redo my VCA assuming that many people town. I don’t like that many assumptions.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:08 pm
by Frogsterking
In post 1783, MathBlade wrote:@Frogger
I would have to redo my VCA assuming that many people town. I don’t like that many assumptions.
Can you do VCA on D1 assuming furtive, Dragons, MariaR and pooky are scum then? Those would be the only ones left.

If something doesn't check out then I can try backtracing my steps from here to see when I Townread someone for a stupid reason.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:09 pm
by MathBlade
In post 1784, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1783, MathBlade wrote:@Frogger
I would have to redo my VCA assuming that many people town. I don’t like that many assumptions.
Can you do VCA on D1 assuming furtive, Dragons, MariaR and pooky are scum then? Those would be the only ones left.

If something doesn't check out then I can try backtracing my steps from here to see when I Townread someone for a stupid reason.
I can but that’s not VCA, that’d be spinning a narrative assuming certain facts true.

What I find interesting is I don’t think Titus’s post makes sense with her first few posts.

I will check her prior slot.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:12 pm
by MathBlade
If we assume Pooky told the truth.

Then Titus did an invest action.

I can’t find the who part.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:13 pm
by Frogsterking
In post 1785, MathBlade wrote:I can but that’s not VCA, that’d be spinning a narrative assuming certain facts true.
I get that and I'm not asking you to forge evidence in favor of the narrative I'm presenting, I'm asking you to present evidence that my narrative is wrong so I know to look for a fix.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:19 pm
by Frogsterking
In post 1785, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1784, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1783, MathBlade wrote:@Frogger
I would have to redo my VCA assuming that many people town. I don’t like that many assumptions.
Can you do VCA on D1 assuming furtive, Dragons, MariaR and pooky are scum then? Those would be the only ones left.

If something doesn't check out then I can try backtracing my steps from here to see when I Townread someone for a stupid reason.
I can but that’s not VCA, that’d be spinning a narrative assuming certain facts true.

What I find interesting is I don’t think Titus’s post makes sense with her first few posts.

I will check her prior slot.
In post 1787, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1785, MathBlade wrote:I can but that’s not VCA, that’d be spinning a narrative assuming certain facts true.
I get that and I'm not asking you to forge evidence in favor of the narrative I'm presenting, I'm asking you to present evidence that my narrative is wrong so I know to look for a fix.
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I'm trying to solve by moving right from left.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:22 pm
by Toogeloo
I don't buy all these claims, because I also am an investigative.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:23 pm
by MathBlade
In post 871, schadd_ wrote:
Spoiler:
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vote count 1.7 !


Big Chungus Gaming (4):
KittyTacky, PookyTheMagicalBear, Toogeloo, Frogsterking
Save The Dragons (3):
Gamma Emerald, Charloux, Enchant
Frogsterking (3):
Greeting, Big Chungus Gaming, Save The Dragons
MalcolmTucker (1):
MariaR
Cape90 (1):
SirRhett
Toogeloo (1):
marcistar
Enchant (1):
Cape90

not voting (2):
MalcolmTucker, Fennec


with 16 alive, it takes 9 to blow someone up. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-10-12 15:00:00)


modorator notes
  • e
Furtive
Dragons
Pooky
MariaR

Is disproven by the D1 greeting wagon

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13520704 1.9 (sorry mobile)

That scum team for the most part lurks. A surprise wagon on lurker Greeting would bring a lot of heat and be town driven and Pooky plops on.

Pooky isn’t one to do something without believing it helps him town or scum.

So since Pooky thought switching from BGC to greeting despite it 4 and 4 and both being town in that world.

That doesn’t add up to me.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:27 pm
by MathBlade
In post 1789, Toogeloo wrote:I don't buy all these claims, because I also am an investigative.
*blinks*

Four. Yeah we gotta sit and sort it out.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:28 pm
by MathBlade
I do my solve
Facts first
Find commonality
Find where to invest
Annoy scum

Profit

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:29 pm
by MathBlade
I jest

It’s more
Start from facts
Build hypothesis from those facts
Find most probable
Anyone who disagrees with most probable is more likely scum unless they provide counter example

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:30 pm
by Frogsterking
In post 1790, MathBlade wrote:So since Pooky thought switching from BGC to greeting despite it 4 and 4 and both being town in that world.

That doesn’t add up to me.
Okay: what if Pooky!scum prefers to keep town!BGC and town!frog in the game so they can clash? That would line up with Kitty being the nightkill as well.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:32 pm
by MathBlade
In post 1794, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1790, MathBlade wrote:So since Pooky thought switching from BGC to greeting despite it 4 and 4 and both being town in that world.

That doesn’t add up to me.
Okay: what if Pooky!scum prefers to keep town!BGC and town!frog in the game so they can clash? That would line up with Kitty being the nightkill as well.
Then based on the VCs Pooky stays on Malcolm and never swaps to BGC.

Source 1.5 and 1.6

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:33 pm
by MathBlade
I don’t see how that lines up with Kitty NK either

I think simpler answer killed for PR or killed for right suspicion more likely than compound what ifs.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:35 pm
by MathBlade
In post 1789, Toogeloo wrote:I don't buy all these claims, because I also am an investigative.
Same question for you Toog.

Got any crumbs?