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In post 1797, Desperado wrote:You seem to think that my argument is something akin to "Malcolm is scum because he unvoted and got everyone to vote Goat" when in reality it is "by unvoting Mutley and taking him of L-1, Malcolm made it acceptable for other players to vote Goat over Malcolm without having the burden of explaining why they deliberately allowed a NL to occur." Do you not see the difference?

not by very much.

In post 1798, Desperado wrote:The bottomline is this: what was the town motivation for switching from mutley to goat when Malcolm had made it abundantly clear that he didn't care which one died, because he thought they were both scum?

If you can answer that question I might entertain your skepticism, but I doubt that you can, because I thought about that very question for a long time and came up empty.

What was the town motivation of all the players that followed Malcolm onto Goat? They didn't have any and are just as much to blame as Malcolm. What it looks like to me is that changed his mind and decided that Goat was a better lynch. I don't see that as some surefire scumtell. I'd much rather vote from the Petapan, Darthe, ESQ slots as they contributed to a no lynch possibly even more.

In post 1799, Skullduggery wrote:

In post 1789, Nero Cain wrote:We'll also be lynching three players today so lets keep that in mind.

What?

dat rolefish.

In post 1800, Nero Cain wrote:What was the town motivation of all the players that followed Malcolm onto Goat? They didn't have any and are just as much to blame as Malcolm. What it looks like to me is that changed his mind and decided that Goat was a better lynch. I don't see that as some surefire scumtell. I'd much rather vote from the Petapan, Darthe, ESQ slots as they contributed to a no lynch possibly even more.

hahahahaha are you serious? There is none! You've already acknowledged that I've said I will be lynching in that group. I'm honestly confused by your behavior right now.

And if you thought that all of those people were scummy and would much rather vote for them, why did you just try to discredit me sight unseen by misrepresenting this:

In post 1749, Desperado wrote:I want to hear from all eight of you, actually. The four (not counting mutley obviously) who voted Goat the end of the day, and the four who essentially wasted their vote. There is no town motivation to a NL, so I'll be voting in this group of eight today.

As a "chain lynching scheme" that you can't be sure isn't "scum lining up lynches" when I clearly stated that I was looking at that group of 8 for today and you agree that they are all scummy for their role in the NL?

In post 1776, The Goat wrote:See...the only down side to all of this is that there's no baby oil and a singlet.

Have you flipped Town yet?

In post 1791, Nero Cain wrote:There's no way that Malcolm forced those players to vote for Goat and I honestly think its fucking retarded that you, Skull and Mac? think that he did.

That's not why I'm voting for Malcolm.

Malcolm had made it clear that Mutley/Krab and Goat were two of his top Scum reads. He had also made it clear that he intended to kill Goat during the night. If it looked like Mutley was going to get lynched, why would he switch his vote to Goat at the last minute -- especially since he was supposedly planning to just kill Goat himself? Why not just lynch one and kill the other? What is the Town motivation behind that last-minute vote switch? I don't see it. I suspect that Malcolm is lying. That's why I'm voting for him right now.

In post 1801, Nero Cain wrote:

In post 1799, Skullduggery wrote:

In post 1789, Nero Cain wrote:We'll also be lynching three players today so lets keep that in mind.

What?

dat rolefish.

...okay, you totally lost me. What are you going on about?

For those saying if I flip scum then Sven is scum. I would actually say when I flip town sven is scum. Infact I think sven is scum. Don't know why hes been so adament not to vote me.

VOTE: sven

VOTE: Mutt

and I don't think that's a good reason to vote Malcom. It wouldn't be the first time Nacho pussied on a scum read, and I don't think he's done that as town.

let's get this shit right here though, I would totally be down to lynch Sven. not entirely sure about Goat

In post 1788, Nero Cain wrote:In post 1774, The Goat wrote:
In post 1770, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1749, Desperado wrote:
Vote: xMalcolmx

I'm putting the NL on him.

Why are they more to blame then Esq, Darthe, Peta?

I also think its lame and scummy for you to blame Malcolm for the votes on Goat from the above 3.


*suspicious look*

You're not scummy after all, are you?

Nero, what is YOUR read on Malcolm? I think he's scummy as hell, and his read on me has nothing to do with that.

Why would my asking despo a question be scummy? I just really really don't see it that way. The previous stated 6 were all responsible for their own votes.

Malcolm doesn't seem particularly scummy to me but I'm not very good at reading Nacho or Kise so meh. What are they "scummy as hell" for?

You misread my post.

Regarding Malcolm, 1712 about sums it up. I kept getting the impression that he was rolefishing.

This is one time that I'll be looking at counter wagons very closely.

In post 1738, ArcAngel9 wrote:so bad that the Day 1 lynch didn't go through...

Why didn't you vote Arc, I was online for the deadline and I saw you online as well so why no vote?

In post 1765, Skullduggery wrote: That's pretty much exactly what I was going to say. We had Mutley at L-1, but then, for whatever asinine reason, Malcolm decides to start a counter-wagon on Goat less than 24 hours before the deadline

even though he had made it abundantly clear that he was going to kill Goat during the night.

Why on Earth would you start a counter-wagon on a player that you intended to kill yourself? And hey, would you look at that -- there was only one kill last night, and it was from the Heyman Mafia (CM Punk's flavor).

How do you know that was a Heyman Mafia kill?

In post 1811, Ravenpaw wrote:

In post 1765, Skullduggery wrote: That's pretty much exactly what I was going to say. We had Mutley at L-1, but then, for whatever asinine reason, Malcolm decides to start a counter-wagon on Goat less than 24 hours before the deadline

even though he had made it abundantly clear that he was going to kill Goat during the night.

Why on Earth would you start a counter-wagon on a player that you intended to kill yourself? And hey, would you look at that -- there was only one kill last night, and it was from the Heyman Mafia (CM Punk's flavor).

How do you know that was a Heyman Mafia kill?

In the very same post he says it's CM Punk's flavour for the kill & reading back it makes sense for him to assume that.

In post 1813, Mac wrote:

In post 1811, Ravenpaw wrote:

In post 1765, Skullduggery wrote: That's pretty much exactly what I was going to say. We had Mutley at L-1, but then, for whatever asinine reason, Malcolm decides to start a counter-wagon on Goat less than 24 hours before the deadline

even though he had made it abundantly clear that he was going to kill Goat during the night.

Why on Earth would you start a counter-wagon on a player that you intended to kill yourself? And hey, would you look at that -- there was only one kill last night, and it was from the Heyman Mafia (CM Punk's flavor).

How do you know that was a Heyman Mafia kill?

In the very same post he says it's CM Punk's flavour for the kill & reading back it makes sense for him to assume that.

just to expand on this Cm Punk's flavour he talks about, CM Punk is an associate of Paul Heyman in WWE (along with Brock Lesnar) and has a finisher called "go to sleep" - therefore the flavour of the kill suggests it was by Punk, because the rock was "put to sleep."

So....it looks like Malcolm and Goat are scum buddies for sure.

Raven looks like she's bussing Arc to me.

In post 1814, Mac wrote:

In post 1813, Mac wrote:

In post 1811, Ravenpaw wrote:

In post 1765, Skullduggery wrote: That's pretty much exactly what I was going to say. We had Mutley at L-1, but then, for whatever asinine reason, Malcolm decides to start a counter-wagon on Goat less than 24 hours before the deadline

even though he had made it abundantly clear that he was going to kill Goat during the night.

Why on Earth would you start a counter-wagon on a player that you intended to kill yourself? And hey, would you look at that -- there was only one kill last night, and it was from the Heyman Mafia (CM Punk's flavor).

How do you know that was a Heyman Mafia kill?

In the very same post he says it's CM Punk's flavour for the kill & reading back it makes sense for him to assume that.

just to expand on this Cm Punk's flavour he talks about, CM Punk is an associate of Paul Heyman in WWE (along with Brock Lesnar) and has a finisher called "go to sleep" - therefore the flavour of the kill suggests it was by Punk, because the rock was "put to sleep."

Oh duh, how did I miss that.

In post 1815, MonkeyMan576 wrote:So....it looks like Malcolm and Goat are scum buddies for sure.

What? How?

In post 1816, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Raven looks like she's bussing Arc to me.

Yeah, and that's why I'm voting for Mutley and not her.
Explain yourself Monkeyman.

Malcolm said he was going to kill Goat, Goat is still alive. If Goat was town, I'm pretty sure Goat would be voting Malcolm right now and not Mutley.

It's suspicious that you are 1) Attacking Arc so hard 2) Not voting for her 3) Not on the major wagon.

In post 1819, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Malcolm said he was going to kill Goat, Goat is still alive. If Goat was town, I'm pretty sure Goat would be voting Malcolm right now and not Mutley.

It's suspicious that you are 1) Attacking Arc so hard 2) Not voting for her 3) Not on the major wagon.

I'd like to hear from Malcolm on what exactly occurred. Believe me, I haven't forgotten about him.

In post 1819, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Malcolm said he was going to kill Goat, Goat is still alive. If Goat was town, I'm pretty sure Goat would be voting Malcolm right now and not Mutley.

K.

It's suspicious that you are 1) Attacking Arc so hard 2) Not voting for her 3) Not on the major wagon.

1) Lol, this is (I think) the first thing I've said to Arc all game:

Why didn't you vote Arc, I was online for the deadline and I saw you online as well so why no vote?

And you call that ? Really? Really?? Really???
2) Have I even said I find Arc scummy? No, I haven't, I have just asked her a question.
3) My top scum read is Mutley so that's where I will vote (for now).

In post 1806, Amethyst Actor wrote:VOTE: Mutt

and I don't think that's a good reason to vote Malcom. It wouldn't be the first time Nacho pussied on a scum read, and I don't think he's done that as town.

let's get this shit right here though, I would totally be down to lynch Sven. not entirely sure about Goat

Mom, please tell me you meant that you don't think Nacho's done that as scum... Because this post looks so bad there...

However I do agree with Mom's Vote. And will not move it so that's where things stand.

Also Mutt, that's why we think you two are scum together...

In post 1803, Desperado wrote:And if you thought that all of those people were scummy and would much rather vote for them, why did you just try to discredit me sight unseen by misrepresenting this:

In post 1749, Desperado wrote:I want to hear from all eight of you, actually. The four (not counting mutley obviously) who voted Goat the end of the day, and the four who essentially wasted their vote. There is no town motivation to a NL, so I'll be voting in this group of eight today.

As a "chain lynching scheme" that you can't be sure isn't "scum lining up lynches" when I clearly stated that I was looking at that group of 8 for today and you agree that they are all scummy for their role in the NL?

There was no "discredit attempt". I honestly do not get this "well Malcolm should be held more responsible." I also don't agree that that are all scummy. By virtue of sheer numbers, atleast 3 of those 8 are scum. Of the 5 possible scum, I highly doubt that all 5 scum are in that group. Maybe 1 or 2 at the most. I think the most likely to be scum are in the Darthe, Peta, ESQ. Their actions are their responsibility. And I find this "Malcolm gave them the opportunity" is just a load of bull.

Nero.

I said "I will be voting in the group of 8 people who either didn't vote or voted Goat at the end of the day today."

You called this a "chain-lynching scheme."

You then asked me what the town motivation was for all of them to do what they did

I understand that you don't agree with the conclusions I've drawn, but the way you're going about it is just terrible. You don't think dismissing my idea to vote in that group of 8 by calling it a chain lynching scheme is an attempt to discredit it? Especially when you've since said that you agree my conclusion that they had no town motivation to do so and why aren't we looking at them instead of Malcolm?

Finally..." I also don't agree that that are all scummy. By virtue of sheer numbers, atleast 3 of those 8 are scum. Of the 5 possible scum, I highly doubt that all 5 scum are in that group." What the hell is this? When did I ever say that the whole scum team was in that group of 8? How are they not all scummy if there is no town motivation for what they did? You're giving me whiplash.