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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 10:32 am
by Formerfish
↑ Titus wrote:I also said Egg could claim for me and we were opposites. I was wrong but that's a hell of a risk Day 1.
What does this even mean? How are you guys opposites?
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 12:58 pm
by Titus
We weren't but I thought he was odd night watcher even tracker. So I told him as much and tried to make an OP circle.
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 1:33 pm
by Formerfish
So you thought there were two watcher/trackers that were active on opposite nights? That didn't seem a little excessive, especially considering you are putting forth an unlimited ninja role on the scum side of it?
Did you ever explain why you tracked Ika?
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 5:36 pm
by Formerfish
On another note, does it bug anyone that the flavor for goon/vt are the same?
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 9:57 pm
by shos
VOTE: titus
Scum having a ninja and town having the power weknow ot has makes no sense for a watcher/tracker.
Also, he is spittingbullshit.
I practically made the traction the nati wagon needed; and my dealer crumb should be especially strong now that scum goon is dealer too.
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 10:35 pm
by geraintm
Bah, go town
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:52 pm
by BlueBloodedToffee
↑ Green Crayons wrote:You're welcome, FF. Without my sarcasm pushing you over the edge, you'd never had made such a solid change in vote.
↑ Green Crayons wrote:Titus totally watched the NK, and got results, and no funny business, right?
Hate, hate, hate these posts. It's like you're trying to claim credit for the Nati lynch with the first one.
The second one is lining up a vote on Titus like you know she didn't see anyone before she said it.
↑ shos wrote:VOTE: titus
Scum having a ninja and town having the power weknow ot has makes no sense for a watcher/tracker.
Also, he is spittingbullshit.
I practically made the traction the nati wagon needed; and my dealer crumb should be especially strong now that scum goon is dealer too.
Same for this. Claiming credit for the Nati lynch. Hate it.
I'm beginning to wonder about Shos' crumb now as well.
Both my town-reads start D4 acting scummy as fuck.
That's just fantastic.
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 1:34 am
by Green Crayons
BBT, are you miffed I didn't give you props? Don't worry, you have strong town points for moving me back to the Nati vote. But, yeah, I
am
taking credit for pushing FF to the Nati vote. Feel free to explain how patting myself on the back is scummy.
Also, color me unsurprised that Titus's role didn't go through. No shit my post was shaded in such a way because it's complete BS. Giving scum a ninja to counteract an every-other-night town power makes that already weak town power completely useless. I've been feeling this way about Titus since yesterday (lol @ me being unable to have the same suspicions today as I did yesterday without being suspicious), I just thought it better to lynch a non-claimed power role at the time.
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 2:00 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
GC, how do you feel about lynching Ika?
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 2:01 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
Titus, can you explain your town-read on Who? I don't get it.
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 3:28 am
by Green Crayons
The only thing I don't like about Ika is his repeated insistence that he would self hammer. His slot and his other play looks town to me.
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FF is also probably town, the most glaring indication being his left field conspiracy theory.
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I'm unsure about Doctor still. I still think it's weird that Titus's conversation with Egg, which talked about card cheating, didn't catch his attention and he instead actually said that it was nonsensical. Now that we know scum has the dealer flavor, this actually looks like Doctor purposefully distancing from that flavor (Doctor had no need to specifically highlight the Titus/Egg exchange).
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I'm actually less sure about shos now that we know that scum have the same flavor as VT. His early crumb is now null, as whether he'd down it as town or scum attempting to look like town is 50/50 WIFOM.
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I'll probably vote to lynch out of Titus, shos, or Doctor today. Will need to review play and think about things.
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 4:40 am
by shos
↑ Green Crayons wrote:You were very scattered shot in D2 and D3 of that mini, which is what I'm referring to - you were jumping back and forth between a set of players. It doesn't look a lot like your play here.
That said, I'm not super big on the power of meta, and I recognize a sample size of 2 games for a particular player's way of playing the game is not exactly stellar.
UNVOTE: BBT
VOTE: Nat
I'm actually feeling pretty adrift this game, without anything solid. That sucks.
you say that you hate me trying to take credit for yhe nati wagon.
Have you read yesterday?
These are the votes on nato before me. Then, 200 posts. Peiple go vla, replace dunno. Game looks stale, looks like a nolynch is cpming.
And then...
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 4:42 am
by shos
↑ shos wrote:VOTE: natirasha
We are not nolynching and this is the only seemingly viable wagon that is not on a townread of mine.
Re:inactivity - i learnes that theres a titusmeet this week, meaning many MSplayers meet up or something.
Hmm. Then immediately:
↑ Formerfish wrote:Its not so much that I care about people going vla, its that I get a little annoyed when multiple people in the same game are on extended vla coming into a deadline.
And Green I'm glad that you took that away from what I was saying, [sarcasm]because that's like totally my point.[/sarcasm]
Fuck it.
Vote Nati
↑ ika wrote:VOTE: nati
done
So really, buzz off.
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 4:44 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
Where are your reads at Shos?
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 4:54 am
by Formerfish
Shos how do you figure that your crumb solidifies you as town now?
And if Titus doesn't get active in this game she is going to earn my vote more quickly than she should, cause she's scum either way.
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 4:57 am
by Titus
↑ Formerfish wrote:So you thought there were two watcher/trackers that were active on opposite nights? That didn't seem a little excessive, especially considering you are putting forth an unlimited ninja role on the scum side of it?
Did you ever explain why you tracked Ika?
First, when I thought egg and I were opposites, I had zero information but an investigative role about Egg. So I tested my theory with the chicken or the egg test. Chase chicken = Tracker, Watch Egg hatch = Watcher. Which came first in the PM? That conversation convinced me we were opposites.
I then proposed the watch circle and camped on Egg. No notification was given to me. That's when I knew ninja was in play.
Ika I tracked because I wanted to see if he was a PR or not and to help read him. In every game ika will lie at least once regardless of alignment as a gambit. The more I know about him the better.
The next night, knowing I was in the game, scum killed Germ anyway. What kind of scum, knowing the watcher will camp there, outright attacks the mason? Given we have 7 alive, that makes 5 v 1 tomorrow. Thus many lynches to survive.
You are pretty obviously town. Ika is town based on Beck's play day 1. Those have to be the nks.
Plus scum are in a pretty bad position. Their buddy gets lynched. If a doctor is hidden (see Rev mafia) I become like a cop). Ninja makes the most sense for balance and is the only way my results work.
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 4:57 am
by Titus
↑ Formerfish wrote:Shos how do you figure that your crumb solidifies you as town now?
And if Titus doesn't get active in this game she is going to earn my vote more quickly than she should, cause she's scum either way.
I am vla dude. I am hosting Titus's Tavern. See General Discussion.
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 5:01 am
by shos
They are in quantum physics! Do you know how to solve a quantum cycloid? me neither! but I have to do it for tomorrow in uni!
hopefully I will have time to *really* get my games going
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 5:01 am
by Titus
Forgot bbt in the last post.
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 5:02 am
by shos
↑ Formerfish wrote:Shos how do you figure that your crumb solidifies you as town now?
And if Titus doesn't get active in this game she is going to earn my vote more quickly than she should, cause she's scum either way.
well because, scum would think that Dealer is a scum role, so why would they crumb it? I think the crumb is *pretty* damn obvious.
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 5:03 am
by shos
also if it wasn't obvious I didn't read everything I randompicked a few posts and commented through phone (until now)
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 5:08 am
by Titus
Who seems rather reluctant to rush to judgment. His posts that asked questions as he was reading allowed for a clear train of thought to be followed.
Compare that to Desperado - Mr. OMG I will vote every wagon but Shos.
Compare to Shos - I am conftown because I am dealer and there's no way scum would know VT is dealer...and then scum had dealer.
Dr. Who is a smidge PoE ( as you BBT and ika are confirmed town from my perspective).
I also looked at that epically bad Pants wagon. It formed in 6 hours. Why did Desp tey a flashwagon on Pants?
He knew Beck would go for it. So both Desp and shos vote Pants. The end of the 6hour flashwagon was town. That wagon was scumled.
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 5:09 am
by Titus
5 bucks says shos is the ninja and lynching him would bone the scumteam. I debated faking a guilty but that went bad last time.
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 5:18 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
↑ Titus wrote:
Who seems rather reluctant to rush to judgment. His posts that asked questions as he was reading allowed for a clear train of thought to be followed.
Compare that to Desperado - Mr. OMG I will vote every wagon but Shos.
Compare to Shos - I am conftown because I am dealer and there's no way scum would know VT is dealer...and then scum had dealer.
Dr. Who is a smidge PoE ( as you BBT and ika are confirmed town from my perspective).
I also looked at that epically bad Pants wagon. It formed in 6 hours. Why did Desp tey a flashwagon on Pants?
He knew Beck would go for it. So both Desp and shos vote Pants. The end of the 6hour flashwagon was town. That wagon was scumled.
OK. I disagree that Ika is town.
My only solid town-reads right now are Fish and yourself. Shos and GC were town for me pretty much all game and then the start of D4 just felt all wrong. I figure I must have one of them wrong. If I do, I'm leaning on Shos because I just don't see GC starting a wagon on his buddy for no reason at all D3.
Who is just flying under my radar. Like, nothing he has done really stands out to me. Especially as I tend to disregard a lot of catch-up posts because they're just so easy to make look pro-town. Let's see what he produces toDay.
I would really like to lynch Ika. If I can't get Ika, I will compromise on Shos.
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 5:21 am
by Titus
You are not getting ika. The start of day 4 should feel wrong. GC is scum. Shos is scum.
VOTE: Shos