Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

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Ali
Leon
RC

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3 people who aren't willing to vote nancy. Can we get 8?

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I'm already voting her lol

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Okay if we consider your vote on and Dave's that is 5. Gork is scum reading nancy so that is potentially 6. Notice was also scum reading nancy.

Would just come down to Ceasar, Creature, and Vecna.

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rip RC lol

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You can't hold Nero against that because I also have maximum priority.

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Ali
Leon
RC

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3 people who aren't willing to vote nancy. Can we get 8?

What do you think about the predominate case on me being that I'm getting bussed by scum?

Sucks.

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Leon it is Day 5. We can't clear people because of replace outs.

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Elbrin's replace out was pretty town yet Gork is being scum read.

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nancy no

I'm town

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I swear you know I'm town RC.

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It is exactly what town me would do here. Scum me would let you do what you want.

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No, LUV. You went from scumlean nancy to pushing my ml. There's no way you SR me here after 1875.

Noooo stop this now nancy

You realize I was scum before I was forced replaced out? I wasn't trying to read your alignment, I was reading how you were reacting to me because I know you're a good player and it showed that game.

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I let you lynch Jar because it inevitable, you weren't even on to me or Anakin lol.

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If you notice I didn't try to break up you or Gerry. I preyed on your tendencies.

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No RC the game plan was fine. Gin just didn't get MBG like the claim was suppose to. Think about how that would look with Rauth flipping vanilla. No clear on you would have set up your lynch.

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No, LUV. You went from scumlean nancy to pushing my ml. There's no way you SR me here after 1875.

Noooo stop this now nancy

You realize I was scum before I was forced replaced out? I wasn't trying to read your alignment, I was reading how you were reacting to me because I know you're a good player and it showed that game.

You're taking to me as if you know I'm town, my dude.

I agree that LUV is talking about nancy slot as if he knows that she's town, ftr. LUV who are you voting right now

Lol yo I'm town wtf

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lol how is it bull, we thought Rauth was cop, we kill Rauth after MBG flipped. I frame someone with detector. Rauth flips Vanilla realize you aren't cleared, you're lynched or whoever I framed is lynched.

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Lol okay that's bull no you wouldn't

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Anyway look this isn't getting anywhere. I'm town and I know y'all upsetting I'm not voting Nero but

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Math literally has us strong armed

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Yeah and that is where the WIFOM came in. People believed it because they doubt scum would do it. It could've worked.

Point is my play here is not like that at all and nancy expecting me to remember her play from there is weird because I was scum and not really focused on that sort of shit.

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Ugh lol okay

Even if I vote Nero you need 3 more

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VOTE: Nero

Sorry Nero, I'm getting bullied

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I would but people keep scum reading me because I'm not picking there wagon of choice.

Both Math and RC are really scary.

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I will only go back to nancy if somehow more votes or Notice joins.

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I do too but Math literally has this pile of evidence lol it's hard to ignore.

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Like I don't want to be blamed for the lost because I was bullied into sheeping you.

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No what I am is tired of being scum read and yelled at when it's literally 50/50 here but one side has more reasoning.

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Like practically confirmed town in Dave and Creature wants nancy, logic says follow them but I'm just so tirrrrreeeeddd

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Lol wtf have I been doing then? I've been displaying emotions.

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It is stupid but if you're town here, we get to laugh at RC with you Nero.

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Just see how things shake out. Maybe Notice will convince RC.

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Lol wtf have I been doing then? I've been displaying emotions.

Opinions*

Read that wrong lol

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It is stupid but if you're town here, we get to laugh at RC with you Nero.

Why are you so so afraif of voting Nancy and getting blamed but you don't care when it comes to me?

I like nancy

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Why would you report me wtf lol

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Fuck it

UNVOTE:

I'll be back later

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Not town reading him it's just stupid and I'm already restricted don't want to get banned.

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Okay I'm back because this game sucks, no literally. Blowout game on TV right now.

I'm going to do my own thing now and I don't care. It is the only way for me to tune everyone out so consider me not here.

VOTE: Ceasar

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Notice can you confirm you role. I have questions while you have time.

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So you're claiming Doc?

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I haven't behaved to you like I know you're town omg lol

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What you're talking about is something I do as either alignment that I will not get into right now

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It's stupid to think that and it is misunderstanding of how I play.

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Notice can you confirm you role. I have questions while you have time.

Parthenon, didn't try to build anything else.

I wanted Petra but mastina told me to take Parthenon instead.
N2 Protected Caesar (mastina prodded me towards this one)
N3 Protected Alisae (had obvious crumbs about being neighborizer and In Memory we brutalized scum with the use of neighbourhoods)
N4 Protected dave (outed parity cop, was between him or RC for wifom)

Why did Mastina feel Ceasar would be night killed? Why did you feel scum would be worried about Alisae being a neigborize considering his meta?

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Notice can you confirm you role. I have questions while you have time.

Parthenon, didn't try to build anything else.

I wanted Petra but mastina told me to take Parthenon instead.
N2 Protected Caesar (mastina prodded me towards this one)
N3 Protected Alisae (had obvious crumbs about being neighborizer and In Memory we brutalized scum with the use of neighbourhoods)
N4 Protected dave (outed parity cop, was between him or RC for wifom)

Why did Mastina feel Ceasar would be night killed? Why did you feel scum would be worried about Alisae being a neigborizer considering his meta?

EBWOP.

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LUV you were trying to convince an SR that you are trying to lynch that you are Town. That is not explainable Town behavior. You also do not SR me in this game after seeing me firsthand in 1875.

I'm saying it more for RC than you.

And lol what part of me being scum in that game are you not getting? I was not actually trying to read you there.

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Notice can you confirm you role. I have questions while you have time.

Parthenon, didn't try to build anything else.

I wanted Petra but mastina told me to take Parthenon instead.
N2 Protected Caesar (mastina prodded me towards this one)
N3 Protected Alisae (had obvious crumbs about being neighborizer and In Memory we brutalized scum with the use of neighbourhoods)
N4 Protected dave (outed parity cop, was between him or RC for wifom)

Why did Mastina feel Ceasar would be night killed? Why did you feel scum would be worried about Alisae being a neigborizer considering his meta?

EBWOP.

Past experience with Pine I think.
Good use of neighborizing can build a solid townbloc, which fucks scum over something fierce (again, citing In Memory where myself and Math were chaining hoods and ended up with a solid bloc that guaranteed a town win). Hoods are a very powerful tool in mafia.

Yes but this is another side of Pine. An alter-ego he's put on. What experience does Mastina have with Ceasar?

See I just don't buy that. We had a town block during D1 that was okay at best and it was destroyed. I don't see how you thought you could successfully attempt to start another one considering how easily the first one was destroyed.

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Like nancy this was my notes on you in Death Trap

nancy subs in
Oh this is the player so and so told me about
I should hard town read them and attempt to buddy

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That was it. I wasn't trying to read you.

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Maybe it's me being paranoid from PyP but I disagree with you on hoods. This game is proof enough it has served no use.

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No it doesn't lol it's NAI

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Oh Math is town maybe if I do what they ask they'll town read me forever.

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The choices just seem suboptimal for Jae and they're not giving good enough reasons of why they think they'd be night killed.

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Lol what? You have to throw everything you know about Pine out the window when it comes to Ceasar.

Why do people make alts? They want to be like someone else and the proper thing is to not read them on their main.

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Like nancy this was my notes on you in Death Trap

nancy subs in
Oh this is the player so and so told me about
I should hard town read them and attempt to buddy

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That was it. I wasn't trying to read you.

I don't think that means you don't know what my Town game looks like? You knew that I was Town and therefore could recognize every little behavior pattern right from the start as coming from Town. You should've been pretty familiar with it by the time you replaced out.

Yes I know what it's like but you have done some scummy things. Those outweigh meta and as you said, meta is unreliable!

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No like what is that even? He clearly wants to be read based on how he's playing this character, not on Pine the actual person.

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The fact that you think I'm high is baffling because you should understand where I'm coming from.

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What has Ceasar, not Pine, has done to be night killed?

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This isn't a hydra, this is a character he's putting on that he clearly wants people to try to read.

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Yes I know what it's like but you have done some scummy things. Those outweigh meta and as you said, meta is unreliable!

What have I done that's scummy? Actually, forget scummy, Town can be scummy just like they can be anti-town. What have I done that's scum indicative? There is no case on me except conf!bias. Meta is not reliable, but to ignore it entirely is foolish and not in the spirit of the quote in my sig.

I've already explained this and don't want to do it again

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Mastina, pretend I'm Gin. Make an exception and explain yourself

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That is work. Listen I'm town, just trust me.

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I'm sorry I'm not linking but I'm just lazy and focusing on something else right now.

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Jae is trying to act like people don't request to not be read based on their main when they play on an alt.

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All I'm asking is why he's being read like he's playing on his main. If he wanted to be read like that he would've stopped role playing a long time ago.

pedit: It is different. Yes it is Pine behind the character but he is trying to present a personality about this character that not only you have to quickly familiarize yourself with but also figure out what would this character do as scum or town. I don't know much about of the lore of this character he's portraying but I'd like to believe he would be a lot more aggressive as town.

It was very obvious early on that Pine wasn't going to stop role playing and that is when people should have shifted and say "Okay, you want to be this character so bad, let me actual try to figure it out now that I know you aren't trolling."

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It is like me pretending to be a video game character, you would eventually have to figure out the personality of said character and then scum hunt normally.

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Am I making sense? I feel like I'm not.

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I do but not in this case. I don't know, I just don't think town makes those choices but maybe we just think differently.

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If it means anything I think I would've doc'd Creature/Kyouko N2

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Kyouko because he's the setup master, he was being pushed on for shit reads, and I trusted him to take Orcale. Creature for the same reasons you described.

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Looking back though, there are so many reasons why PV was killed since there hasn't been an obvious doc protect since Frogger died.

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I'm not scum.

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No I will continue to spam because you're both wrong.

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So rethink your town reads.

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Role doesn't confirm alignment but yes I think Creature and Dave are most likely town.

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Role doesn't confirm alignment but yes I think Creature and Dave are most likely town.

And what about Alisae and Senpai?

Claimed actions seem very suspect to me.

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Role doesn't confirm alignment but yes I think Creature and Dave are most likely town.

And what about Alisae and Senpai?

Claimed actions seem very suspect to me.

Okay.

Let's discuss this.

Do you agree that scum would not have been able to talk until N1 at the earliest?
Do you agree that Alisae would have to submit build request before N1 began?

I agree on both.

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{Caesar, Gork, Nero}

You are wrong somewhere in town reads nancy.

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{Caesar, Cloud Gork, Nero}

You are wrong somewhere in town reads nancy.

EBWOP.

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Besides, you just advised everyone to pick wonders which match their playstyle. Well, neighborizer matches our playstyle more than anything else.

Do you agree that A&N publically claimed they were going for neighborizer here?

No.

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You are most likely wrong in

{Ali, Leon, Notice}

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If you want to town read Ali and Notice off silly things then last scum by your PoV would be Leon.

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I will have a neighborhood one way or another, because I am terrible without it and my reads are out of whack, hence I need neighborhood to catch scum. You know this too. You want me to give you scum? Then let me have someone to tell me what to do who isn't scum themselves and you shall have it.

- Akane

What about this? Do you think A&N were going for neighborizer here?

Yes but read the last sentence of that paragraph.

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Besides, you just advised everyone to pick wonders which match their playstyle. Well, neighborizer matches our playstyle more than anything else.

Do you agree that A&N publically claimed they were going for neighborizer here?

No.

And what do you think A&N were saying here?

Saying a Wonder matches their play style. Not really publicly claiming anything.

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If you want to town read Ali and Notice off silly things then last scum by your PoV would be Leon.

I am trying to demonstrate my thought process on why Ali is Town to you.

Ignore the rest a moment.

Do you agree that Alisae regardless of alignment publically declared they were going for neighborizer?

I don't know but I don't see how it changes things. You're trying to say that Ali would not plan out to deceive people by neighborizing them in a hood without talking to his buddies first.

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Come on, DEO. You remember that game where people were chosen to create roles for other peeps? The one where we submitted Friendly Neighbor Neighborizer? You know how much I love neighborhoods.....

- Akane

Do you notice where they said here how they were going to neighborize us?

They wanted a repeat of a certain Titus game I have no knowledge of.

I don't see scum blatantly calling out who they neighborize 460 posts into a game.

Why not?

Why are you not concerned about how manipulative the tone of that post is?

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I'm not saying Ali didn't build the Wonder. I'm judging the motivation. OMG.

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If you want to town read Ali and Notice off silly things then last scum by your PoV would be Leon.

If you knew Notice you'd know that their fullclaim makes them practically conftown. It does in my eyes, at least. If you call reading Aslan based on their entire ISO silly, then I don't know what to say to you. And if Leonshade is scum, tell me why scum randomly decided to hardbus him yesterday and make him the major wagon for the vast majority of the day.

I have no idea but you're wrong on me so I am giving you the blueprint on how to fix it.

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The only other alternative is if PV is scum and you don't believe that so you have to be wrong on those 3.

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If you want to town read Ali and Notice off silly things then last scum by your PoV would be Leon.

I am trying to demonstrate my thought process on why Ali is Town to you.

Ignore the rest a moment.

Do you agree that Alisae regardless of alignment publically declared they were going for neighborizer?

I don't know but I don't see how it changes things. You're trying to say that Ali would not plan out to deceive people by neighborizing them in a hood without talking to his buddies first.

I am saying the selection of the wonder had to be done without consulting anyone except in thread.

The target was debatable.

However if we weren't hit I would have looked for crumbs anyway. Alisae crumbed target without communicating with scum.

That means Alisae is almost certainly town.

You are trying to argue that crumbing is AI. It is not, that's the problem.

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Role doesn't confirm alignment but yes I think Creature and Dave are most likely town.

And what about Alisae and Senpai?

Claimed actions seem very suspect to me.

I also take offense to this ftr.

You would have protected lynchbait number 1 and 2. You have no right to criticize my doc protects considering I very likely stopped a kill on Ali.

Not trying to offend you but I am willing to bet my account scum were not considering kill Alisae.

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Role doesn't confirm alignment but yes I think Creature and Dave are most likely town.

And what about Alisae and Senpai?

Claimed actions seem very suspect to me.

I also take offense to this ftr.

You would have protected lynchbait number 1 and 2. You have no right to criticize my doc protects considering I very likely stopped a kill on Ali.

Not trying to offend you but I am willing to bet my account scum were not considering killing Alisae.

EBWOP.

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nancy it has to be one of those 3 if you town read Drixx's replace out and Math. The most likely is Leon regardless of wagon shit.

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Ceasar/CK/Gork/Nero

This scum team does not kill their own.

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Pine would not do it. Pretty sure Cloud wouldn't either. Don't know Gork at all but I don't think he would too.

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Then what happened to the NK, LUV?

Either scum sent out almost the worst read person in the thread (Gork) to do the kill, which would be downright stupid and the team so far doesn't strike me as stupid, or the kill was doc'ed.
More likely the kill was docced. Which means we're down to my protect on Ali or Maxous' protect on Caesar.
Both of which you say are bad targets.

Creature correctly RB'd.

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{Caesar, Cloud Gork, Nero}

You are wrong somewhere in town reads nancy.

EBWOP.

Then why isn't Gork confscum to you then?

I'm scum reading Gork lol

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Ceasar was on Sondam lynch and was a lynch candidate for a majority of Day 3. No reason for scum to kill him.

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Elbrin's replace out was pretty town yet Gork is being scum read.

Lolwut? Elbrin's replace out is one of the main reasons people have been scumreading the slot so badly. That shit was more slippery than an eel in an oilstore.

Gorkington being able to salvage the slot (or trick me in the way he did) is quite the godsent.

Wasn't scummy to me lol

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{Caesar, Cloud Gork, Nero}

You are wrong somewhere in town reads nancy.

EBWOP.

Then why isn't Gork confscum to you then?

I'm scum reading Gork lol

Then why is nancy only wrong "somewhere"?

Why would you just not say "Gork is scum fix it" (paraphrase) if Gork is so confirmed to you?

Why would you not as soon as Alisae was the target protect push Gork?

Because I legit don't know but it I am sure it isn't Vecna or PV. You and RC are practically confirmed town.

It has to be the 3 I pointed out.

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I forgot what Alisae was doing but I'm pretty sure they were in some back and forths Day 3 that favored scum.

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Point is they were not obvious NK targets. It is more likely Creature guessed right.

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Max protecting Ceasar I can buy because I can read him well and he just does his own thing. It is Max thing tbh that protect.

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This is what Jae is trying to propose.

They protected people that can honestly be argued weren't obvious or good NK targets in order to form a town block after one was broken up earlier and wasn't even effective to begin with.

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This is what Alisae is trying to propose.

They neigborized The DEO to try to get a better read on them and to get them back in-sync but The DEO posted quite a bit Day 1 so the fact that he struggled to get a read on the slot is very hard to believe and when asked how he attempted to get them back in-sync he gave a bunch of generic answers.

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@LUV So you're arguing scum sent out the widely scumread player to do the nightkill where their day game has been good enough that we haven't lynched scum yet.
Because I don't think the way the game has gone so far points to scum being that stupid when they'd likely know the roleblocker is town, and I don't buy that scum wouldn't have tried to build the roleblocker.
Like, if scum haven't bussed by now what makes you think they'd do something designed for a setup to bus?

No the game points to scum being cocky, so yes, I can buy them sending Gork.

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{Caesar, Cloud Gork, Nero}

You are wrong somewhere in town reads nancy.

EBWOP.

Then why isn't Gork confscum to you then?

I'm scum reading Gork lol

Then why is nancy only wrong "somewhere"?

Why would you just not say "Gork is scum fix it" (paraphrase) if Gork is so confirmed to you?

Why would you not as soon as Alisae was the target protect push Gork?

Because I legit don't know but it I am sure it isn't Vecna or PV. You and RC are practically confirmed town.

It has to be the 3 I pointed out.

Yes from your PoV you should.

Either one of three things happened:
1) Scum was roleblocked.
2) Kill was docc'd
3) Scum chose to go to evens for lulz.

From your PoV as you have stated all day Gork is scum.

Why allow nancy or anyone a world where Gork isn't scum?

I allowed it because she's tunneled. You're tunneled. Everyone is tunneled.

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Max protecting Ceasar I can buy because I can read him well and he just does his own thing. It is Max thing tbh that protect.

And how well do you know BaeReed/mastina for a BaeReed / mastina thing?

I don't know both of them well but what I can say is that mastina pitching that protect doesn't make sense giving the circumstances.

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Max protecting Ceasar I can buy because I can read him well and he just does his own thing. It is Max thing tbh that protect.

And how well do you know BaeReed/mastina for a BaeReed / mastina thing?

I don't know both of them well but what I can say is that mastina pitching that protect doesn't make sense given the circumstances.

EBWOP.

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This is what Jae is trying to propose.

They protected people that can honestly be argued weren't obvious or good NK targets in order to form a town block after one was broken up earlier and wasn't even effective to begin with.

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This is what Alisae is trying to propose.

They neigborized The DEO to try to get a better read on them and to get them back in-sync but The DEO posted quite a bit Day 1 so the fact that he struggled to get a read on the slot is very hard to believe and when asked how he attempted to get them back in-sync he gave a bunch of generic answers.

What.

That's not what I'm trying to propose at all. I protected the people that WERE obvious or good NK targets. That's what I'm trying to argue.
I'm saying Alisae formed a townblock with his wonder and that's WHY he was a good fucking kill.

That's not even what Alisae said either. He said he HAD A TOWNREAD on The DEO. It was to try and get them back in sync since he was in a hood with them in the game we played that ended while this one was still early D1.

I worded wrong. What you're trying to propose doesn't match up with how they've played and Alisae's meta.

As for Alisae reasoning, I could've sworn they said they wanted to get a better read on The DEO as a reasoning but I'm too lazy to check.

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@LUV So you're arguing scum sent out the widely scumread player to do the nightkill where their day game has been good enough that we haven't lynched scum yet.
Because I don't think the way the game has gone so far points to scum being that stupid when they'd likely know the roleblocker is town, and I don't buy that scum wouldn't have tried to build the roleblocker.
Like, if scum haven't bussed by now what makes you think they'd do something designed for a setup to bus?

No the game points to scum being cocky, so yes, I can buy them sending Gork.

Ok what about the game points to scum being cocky here then?

Maybe the 7-0 sweep.

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Let me reword.

I am aruging that with the way Alisae and Ceasar have played and Aliase's meta, scum are more likely not worried about a potential town blocking forming based on the Wonder Alisae decided to build and thus was not considering night killing them.

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I do not and him and Jae's relationship only reinforces my belief that some bullshit is going on.

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Jae claims to be able to read Alisae's meta but cannot explain why scum would night kill him other than his choice of Wonder.

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Note this is not a personal attack on skill, this is just me talking about my experience with Alisae and what you've claimed in this thread Jae.

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I'll admit, my doc choices aren't much better but I think are more likely.

The PV kill honestly says a lot about how bad we've been playing.

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This is what Jae is trying to propose.

They protected people that can honestly be argued weren't obvious or good NK targets in order to form a town block after one was broken up earlier and wasn't even effective to begin with.

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This is what Alisae is trying to propose.

They neigborized The DEO to try to get a better read on them and to get them back in-sync but The DEO posted quite a bit Day 1 so the fact that he struggled to get a read on the slot is very hard to believe and when asked how he attempted to get them back in-sync he gave a bunch of generic answers.

What.

That's not what I'm trying to propose at all. I protected the people that WERE obvious or good NK targets. That's what I'm trying to argue.
I'm saying Alisae formed a townblock with his wonder and that's WHY he was a good fucking kill.

That's not even what Alisae said either. He said he HAD A TOWNREAD on The DEO. It was to try and get them back in sync since he was in a hood with them in the game we played that ended while this one was still early D1.

I worded wrong. What you're trying to propose doesn't match up with how they've played and Alisae's meta.

As for Alisae reasoning, I could've sworn they said they wanted to get a better read on The DEO as a reasoning but I'm too lazy to check.

Alisae has a wonder that is highly dangerous for scum. Again, In Memory proves this. Shadowrun proves this. Hell, ask Math, ask Ali, hoods that are only town that can allow town to identify each other for exactly these scenarios are devastating for scum. Scum don't want town correctly townreading each other and they can't do anything about it when it's happening in a hood. Therefore, you kill the one making the hoods. Ergo, doc protect on Alisae. Not to mention he was stupidly obvtown up to D3. He only got attacked on D4 following the no kill.....WONDER WHY -- they wanted to pinpoint the doc.

pedit fuck you RC I very likely stopped the kill can you stop being a fucking dick to me? Like I get why you're still pissed at me but can you not be a jerkwad towards me for once this game?

PyP > Those games.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Jae claims to be able to read Alisae's meta but cannot explain why scum would night kill him other than his choice of Wonder.

ALISAE WAS FUCKING OBVTOWN WITH A DANGEROUS HOOD WONDER THAT WOULD ONLY MAKE HIM MORESO AND MAKE HIM ABLE TO MAKE A TOWNBLOCK.

WHAT ABOUT THIS DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?

Alisae's meta trumps that and you know that.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

He cannot form a town block by himself, he is not capable.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

It is the latter.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I had dropped it but the fact people can see where I'm coming from gives it some merit.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

@LUV So you're arguing scum sent out the widely scumread player to do the nightkill where their day game has been good enough that we haven't lynched scum yet.
Because I don't think the way the game has gone so far points to scum being that stupid when they'd likely know the roleblocker is town, and I don't buy that scum wouldn't have tried to build the roleblocker.
Like, if scum haven't bussed by now what makes you think they'd do something designed for a setup to bus?

No the game points to scum being cocky, so yes, I can buy them sending Gork.

Ok what about the game points to scum being cocky here then?

Maybe the 7-0 sweep.

Also, you clearly don't understand what "cocky" means.

The game being 7-0 doesn't point to scum being cocky unless we flip scum that was being cocky. You're assuming that scum would be cocky at this point because you would be, and even if you think scum are cocky this game? The main person I can think that fits with that is Vecna. Who you townread.

I think scum would be very cocky after getting lynching two town players back to back, one being ABR and getting Titus subbed out. Also successively killing Frogger.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

No but I was not given a chance to. Ask Cloud.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I am sure I would've caught him in Hogwarts because Tywin flaked. I was just so zero'd on Not_Mafia.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

The point I'm making to you Math is that you have to question everything and run through every scenario.

The point I'm making to nancy that is I'm literally not scum and that from her PoV it has to be one of Ali/Leon/Notice/PV.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

You realize Hogwarts is what I am referring to LUV?

Do you honestly think Alisae would try the same failed approach on me after failing in Hogwarts?

Yes.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Jae claims to be able to read Alisae's meta but cannot explain why scum would night kill him other than his choice of Wonder.

ALISAE WAS FUCKING OBVTOWN WITH A DANGEROUS HOOD WONDER THAT WOULD ONLY MAKE HIM MORESO AND MAKE HIM ABLE TO MAKE A TOWNBLOCK.

WHAT ABOUT THIS DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?

Alisae's meta trumps that and you know that.

I have known him to be nightkilled before because he's a threat.

He cannot form a town block by himself, he is not capable.

Not being a dick at all.

I beg to differ. You're being a dick here.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Not being a dick at all *

[Lil Uzi Vert]

You realize Hogwarts is what I am referring to LUV?

Do you honestly think Alisae would try the same failed approach on me after failing in Hogwarts?

Yes.

Okay that is it. I have tried every angle I can think of for rationally thinking Alisae would deceive me and it requires Alisae to do the literal definition of insanity which is to claim power, buddy me, and expect me not to catch on. I don't believe Alisae is performing the definition of insanity without talking to his teammates. That is insane.

I believe he is perfectly capable of doing this and even if I didn't, I would consider it on Day 5 without any flips.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Not being a dick at all *

You're putting Ali down so yes you are.
He's feeling shit enough about this game as it is without you adding to it.

I'm not trying to put him down, please stop talking like you know me. I can be a real dick if I wanted to.

Me being a dick is what I was did to Yuri earlier. I am speaking solely on my experience with him and his personality. If you have games that support what you're saying, I will consider.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I'm one of the nicest people on this site and he knows that so it is insulting to call me a dick when I am literally not trying to be. I am very capable of being one but this isn't it.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Not being a dick at all *

You're putting Ali down so yes you are.
He's feeling shit enough about this game as it is without you adding to it.

I'm not trying to put him down, please stop talking like you know me. I can be a real dick if I wanted to.

Me being a dick is what I did to Yuri earlier. I am speaking solely on my experience with him and his personality. If you have games that support what you're saying, I will consider.

EBWOP.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

The rest of your scum team you're proposing nancy does not kill their own. PV is town.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=69562 - replaced in and called the red team so he got nightkilled.
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=69310 - replaced in and got nightkilled after lynching scum.
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=69654 - nightkilled (as claimed vig tho so)

I could probably find more if I tried.

Well I'll be

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I'm one of the nicest people on this site and he knows that so it is insulting to call me a dick when I am literally not trying to be. I am very capable of being one but this isn't it.

Dude you have multiple times made me feel like shit. Whether you mean to or not is irrelevant. I care less when someone is riffing on me but you're literally trying to say Ali couldn't be useful here and that's plain false. I'm not going to stand by why my friends are insulted.

I apologize.

It is on me. I like to think people know when I'm joking or when I'm serious. I like to think people know that I'm not speaking without any malice. I've been told I speak so robotically online and I've been trying to work on that.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

PV has popped up at odd and arguably convenient times.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

And whatever he was pushing about me and Creature look too thought out.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I can't be on a scum team with Cloud for obvious reasons, for the record.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I can't be on a scum team with Cloud for obvious reasons, for the record.

What obvious reasons?

Cloud would not be interacting with me the way he has been doing if we were scum together. Period.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I can't be on a scum team with Cloud for obvious reasons, for the record.

What obvious reasons?

Cloud would not be interacting with me the way he has been doing if we were scum together. Period.

Elaborate..?

I will not. Just trust me here.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

After tonight:

Town: Ali, Creature, Dave, Math, Notice, PV, RC, Vecna

This is where I am at:

Ceaser, Cloud, Gork, Leon, nancy, Nero

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I will not. Just trust me here.

Took you a while to bring it up. I have no reason to trust you.

I don't want to get annoyed again so I purposely did not.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I don't need to prove I'm town because I am obviously town.

I am only going for vig or the blocking Wonder. Big Ben is asking us to lynch correctly today.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Big Ben cops Dave/Leon/Gork/Nero.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I couldn't access on mobile lol

[Lil Uzi Vert]

After last night I am at

Ali
Creature
Dave
Math
RC
Notice
Vecna
PV

Which leaves Ceasar, Cloud, Gork, Leon, nancy.

Does that team make sense?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

@Nero

[Lil Uzi Vert]

So if we take out Cloud I remember you said you weren't scum reading him

Ceasar/Gork/Leon/nancy/Vecna

nancy's and Gork's interactions make me question this.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I did my best to understand everyone I doubted.

If I'm wrong at this point it has to be Vecna but the Red Fort thing is totally town him.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

It could be as simple as scum killed their own and PV is the missing piece.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Lynch Vote 1.34

beeboy (5):

ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV, Yuri, Albert B. Rampage, Spiffeh

Yuri (4):

Vecna, beeboy, Nero Cain, Leonshade

Caesar Wills It (3):

Fro99er, Akane and Nebby, The DEO

Vecna (2):

Caesar Wills It, NoticeMeSenpai

Spiffeh (1):

Lil Uzi Vert

Creature (1):

davesaz

davesaz (1):

Creature

Sondam (1):

Drixx

ssbm_Kyouko (1):

Maxous

NoticeMeSenpai (1):

Elbirn

Not Voting (1):

Sondam

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to to lynch.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-21 10:05:30), at which point we will default to no lynch.

Lynch Vote 1.35

beeboy (4):

ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV, Yuri, Spiffeh

Yuri (4):

Vecna, beeboy, Nero Cain, Leonshade

Caesar Wills It (4):

Fro99er, Akane and Nebby, The DEO, Creature

Vecna (2):

Caesar Wills It, NoticeMeSenpai

Lil Uzi Vert (2):

Albert B. Rampage, Sondam

Spiffeh (1):

Lil Uzi Vert

Creature (1):

davesaz

Sondam (1):

Drixx

ssbm_Kyouko (1):

Maxous

NoticeMeSenpai (1):

Elbirn

Not Voting (0):

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to to lynch.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-21 10:05:30), at which point we will default to no lynch.

Lynch Vote 1.36

Yuri (5):

Vecna, beeboy, Nero Cain, Leonshade, Lil Uzi Vert

beeboy (4):

ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV, Yuri, Spiffeh

Caesar Wills It (4):

Fro99er, Akane and Nebby, The DEO, Creature

Vecna (2):

Caesar Wills It, NoticeMeSenpai

Lil Uzi Vert (2):

Albert B. Rampage, Sondam

Creature (1):

davesaz

Sondam (1):

Drixx

ssbm_Kyouko (1):

Maxous

NoticeMeSenpai (1):

Elbirn

Not Voting (0):

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to to lynch.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-21 10:05:30), at which point we will default to no lynch.

Lynch Vote 1.37

beeboy (5):

ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV, Yuri, Spiffeh, Albert B. Rampage

Yuri (5):

Vecna, beeboy, Nero Cain, Leonshade, Lil Uzi Vert

Caesar Wills It (3):

Akane and Nebby, The DEO, Creature

Vecna (2):

Caesar Wills It, NoticeMeSenpai

Lil Uzi Vert (1):

Sondam

Creature (1):

davesaz

Sondam (1):

Drixx

ssbm_Kyouko (1):

Maxous

NoticeMeSenpai (1):

Elbirn

Not Voting (1):

Fro99er

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to to lynch.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-21 10:05:30), at which point we will default to no lynch.

Lynch Vote 2.01

Caesar Wills It (6):

Creature, Spiffeh, Akane and Nebby, The DEO, Brian Skies, Elbirn

Vecna (2):

NoticeMeSenpai, Albert B. Rampage

Albert B. Rampage (2):

Vecna, Lil Uzi Vert

ssbm_Kyouko (1):

Maxous

Leonshade (1):

Sondam

Akane and Nebby (1):

Yuri

NoticeMeSenpai (1):

Nero Cain

Not Voting (5):

Leonshade, Caesar Wills It, ssbm_Kyouko, davesaz, PeregrineV

With 19 players alive, it takes 10 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-28 16:35:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.

Lynch Vote 2.02

Caesar Wills It (5):

Creature, Brian Skies, Elbirn, Leonshade, The DEO

Albert B. Rampage (2):

Vecna, Lil Uzi Vert

ssbm_Kyouko (2):

Maxous, Akane and Nebby

Sondam (2):

Nero Cain, Albert B Rampage

Vecna (1):

NoticeMeSenpai

Leonshade (1):

Spiffeh

Lil Uzi Vert (1):

Sondam

Akane and Nebby (1):

Yuri

Not Voting (4):

Caesar Wills It, ssbm_Kyouko, davesaz, PeregrineV

With 19 players alive, it takes 10 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-28 16:35:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.

Lynch Vote 2.03

Albert B. Rampage (4):

Vecna, Lil Uzi Vert, Leonshade, Mathblade

Caesar Wills It (3):

Creature, Brian Skies, Elbirn

ssbm_Kyouko (2):

Maxous, Akane and Nebby

Sondam (2):

Nero Cain, Albert B Rampage

Vecna (1):

NoticeMeSenpai

Leonshade (1):

Spiffeh

Lil Uzi Vert (1):

Sondam

Akane and Nebby (1):

Yuri

Not Voting (4):

Caesar Wills It, ssbm_Kyouko, davesaz, PeregrineV

With 19 players alive, it takes 10 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-28 16:35:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.

Lynch Vote 3.10

Caesar Wills It (3):

nancy, Creature, Brian Skies

CloudKicker (2):

Yuri, Maxous

Sondam (2):

Vecna, Nero Cain

Lil Uzi Vert (2):

Elbirn, Sondam

Brian Skies (2):

Leonshade, Lil Uzi Vert

Nero Cain (1):

MathBlade

Yuri (1):

Alisae

Maxous (1):

NoticeMeSenpai

Not Voting (3):

Caesar Wills It, CloudKicker, davesaz

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-11 09:45:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.

Caesar Wills It and Sondam have been prodded.

Lynch Vote 3.11

Caesar Wills It (3):

nancy, Creature, Brian Skies

CloudKicker (2):

Yuri, Maxous

Sondam (2):

Vecna, Nero Cain

Lil Uzi Vert (2):

Elbirn, Sondam

Brian Skies (2):

Leonshade, Lil Uzi Vert

Nero Cain (1):

MathBlade

Maxous (1):

NoticeMeSenpai

Vecna (1):

CloudKicker

Not Voting (3):

Caesar Wills It, davesaz, Alisae

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-11 09:45:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.

Lynch Vote 3.12

Caesar Wills It (5):

Creature, Brian Skies, nancy, Vecna, Leonshade

CloudKicker (2):

Yuri, Maxous

Lil Uzi Vert (2):

Elbirn, Sondam

Brian Skies (1):

Lil Uzi Vert

Sondam (1):

Nero Cain

Nero Cain (1):

MathBlade

Maxous (1):

NoticeMeSenpai

Vecna (1):

CloudKicker

Not Voting (3):

Caesar Wills It, davesaz, Alisae

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-11 09:45:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.

Lynch Vote 3.13

Caesar Wills It (5):

Creature, Brian Skies, nancy, Vecna, Leonshade

CloudKicker (2):

Yuri, Maxous

Lil Uzi Vert (2):

Elbirn, Sondam

Brian Skies (1):

Lil Uzi Vert

Sondam (1):

Nero Cain

Nero Cain (1):

MathBlade

Maxous (1):

NoticeMeSenpai

Vecna (1):

CloudKicker

Not Voting (3):

Caesar Wills It, davesaz, Alisae

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-11 09:45:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.

Lynch Vote 3.14

Caesar Wills It (5):

Creature, Brian Skies, nancy, Vecna, Leonshade

CloudKicker (2):

Yuri, Maxous

Nero Cain (2):

MathBlade, Sondam

Lil Uzi Vert (1):

Elbirn

Brian Skies (1):

Lil Uzi Vert

Sondam (1):

Nero Cain

Maxous (1):

NoticeMeSenpai

Vecna (1):

CloudKicker

Not Voting (3):

Caesar Wills It, davesaz, Alisae

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-11 09:45:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.

Lynch Vote 3.15

Caesar Wills It (5):

Creature, Brian Skies, nancy, Vecna, Leonshade

Maxous (2):

NoticeMeSenpai, Alisae

Vecna (2):

Caesar Wills It, Sondam

CloudKicker (1):

Yuri

Nero Cain (1):

MathBlade

Lil Uzi Vert (1):

TheRealGin-N-Tonic

Brian Skies (1):

Lil Uzi Vert

Sondam (1):

Nero Cain

Alisae (1):

Maxous

NoticeMeSenpai (1):

CloudKicker

Not Voting (1):

davesaz

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-11 09:45:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.

Lynch Vote 3.16

Caesar Wills It (5):

Creature, nancy, Leonshade, CloudKicker, MathBlade

Maxous (2):

NoticeMeSenpai, Alisae

Vecna (2):

Caesar Wills It, Sondam

CloudKicker (2):

Yuri, Maxous

Brian Skies (1):

Lil Uzi Vert

Sondam (1):

Nero Cain

Not Voting (4):

davesaz, TheRealGin-N-Tonic, Brian Skies, Vecna

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-11 09:45:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.

Lynch Vote 3.17

Caesar Wills It (5):

Creature, nancy, Leonshade, CloudKicker, MathBlade

CloudKicker (3):

Yuri, Maxous, Lil Uzi Vert

Maxous (2):

NoticeMeSenpai, Alisae

Vecna (2):

Caesar Wills It, Sondam

Sondam (1):

Nero Cain

Not Voting (4):

davesaz, TheRealGin-N-Tonic, Brian Skies, Vecna

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-11 09:45:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.

Lynch Vote 3.18

Caesar Wills It (5):

Creature, nancy, Leonshade, CloudKicker, MathBlade

CloudKicker (3):

Yuri, Maxous, Lil Uzi Vert

Maxous (2):

NoticeMeSenpai, Alisae

Vecna (2):

Caesar Wills It, Sondam

Sondam (1):

Nero Cain

Not Voting (4):

davesaz, TheRealGin-N-Tonic, Brian Skies, Vecna

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-11 09:45:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.

Lynch Vote 3.19

Caesar Wills It (5):

Creature, nancy, Leonshade, CloudKicker, MathBlade

davesaz (3):

Alisae, Nero Cain, Lil Uzi Vert

CloudKicker (2):

Yuri, Maxous

Vecna (2):

Caesar Wills It, Sondam

Maxous (1):

NoticeMeSenpai

Nero Cain (1):

TheRealGin-N-Tonic

Not Voting (3):

davesaz, Brian Skies, Vecna

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-11 09:45:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.

Lynch Vote 3.20

Caesar Wills It (5):

Creature, nancy, Leonshade, CloudKicker, MathBlade

davesaz (3):

Alisae, Nero Cain, Lil Uzi Vert

CloudKicker (2):

Yuri, Maxous

Vecna (2):

Caesar Wills It, Sondam

Maxous (1):

NoticeMeSenpai

Nero Cain (1):

TheRealGin-N-Tonic

Not Voting (3):

davesaz, Brian Skies, Vecna

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-11 09:45:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.

Lynch Vote 3.21

Caesar Wills It (5):

Creature, nancy, Leonshade, CloudKicker, MathBlade

NoticeMeSenpai (3):

Vecna, Lil Uzi Vert, Nero Cain

CloudKicker (2):

Yuri, Maxous

Vecna (2):

Caesar Wills It, Sondam

davesaz (1):

Alisae

Maxous (1):

NoticeMeSenpai

Nero Cain (1):

TheRealGin-N-Tonic

Not Voting (2):

davesaz, Brian Skies

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-11 09:45:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.

Yuri has been prodded.

Lynch Vote 3.22

Caesar Wills It (4):

Creature, Leonshade, MathBlade, Yuri

davesaz (4):

Alisae, Nero Cain, Brian Skies, Vecna

Vecna (2):

Caesar Wills It, Sondam

Maxous (2):

NoticeMeSenpai, CloudKicker

Nero Cain (2):

TheRealGin-N-Tonic, nancy

NoticeMeSenpai (1):

Lil Uzi Vert

CloudKicker (1):

Maxous

Not Voting (1):

davesaz

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-11 09:45:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.

Just as a note, I'm very under the weather today so vote counts may be more infrequent than you've come to expect should activity be high. I'll do my best to keep up but I'm gonna be doing a lot of resting.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Cloud's been scummy though. Too scummy to ignore.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Yeah I don't think Elbrin or Gin was scummy but Gork has been bad.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Cloud's been scummy though. Too scummy to ignore.

What has he been scummy for besides lurk and be useless?

Push on Leon, discredit of me, the self meta whines.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

No but scum might've thought it was inevitable and deem Leon the best candidate until Kid wagon got traction.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Reason why he brought up PyP was because hoods was towns down fall.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Like Nero if I accept the most likely than I'm left with those 5. If I'm wrong on nancy it has to be you or PV.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I don't believe Cloud or Leon would kill their own. Pine might but he clearly doesn't seem too invested so I don't think he would try such a gambit and not really oversee if it goes well. I don't know Gork at all.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I haven't been small lol.

I talked to Alisae. I talked to Jae. I don't want to rehash because I feel I went too far and it is just better to accept the likelihood that they are both town.

I already went into why the Hagia Sofia thing is a NAI thing for Vecna but that Red Fort theory is too left field for scum to try and pass.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

But your theory of why scum couldn't all be lurkers if we look back, town have pushed all the mislynches. Kyouko and Leon had scummy hops. Ceasar arguable too.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

-Snipped-

Was there any point in quoting a bunch of VC's and not saying anything about them?

It was for Nero to look at.

I don't do well with data so I did half the work for him.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Kyouko and Leon were lurking hard early too though.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

It's not far fetched to think it could all be lurkers.

If you're scum it's a classic caught for the wrong reasons thing.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

The problem at this point is that it has come to down to PoE for a lot of people. If you aren't scum and nancy isn't scum, it literally has to be PV.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I played with scum Dave and he just doesn't gambit like this as at all.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Everyone that I've listed as town just now won't get lynched anytime soon.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

If you want, you can try to make Ceasar a thing, I'm currently voting him.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

What? No I'm saying if you want me and you can try to make Ceasar a thing..

[Lil Uzi Vert]

nancy's reaction to RC claiming Great Wall probably means she doesn't have it.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

lol

[Lil Uzi Vert]

It is down to Nero today unless someone obvious scum it up so bad.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Like I am either at 50/45 and a 5 percent they are both town and we lost.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Simple.

I'm tired and I've been wrong. I've been wrong about ABR, Sondam, Yuri/Kid. I am not confident at all. Combine that with the sheer amount of pages and all the yelling it is just easier to sheep.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

If you notice my attitude at the start Day 2 during the Bee flip I was still very much motivated, I felt confident because I called Bee as town and way early on before anyone else did. I haven't had that confidence since. I haven't had the drive.

As I said earlier in this thread, when I'm town I get motivated when I'm a roll.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

If Sondam had flipped scum things would probably be different but sadly it wasn't meant to be.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Also just the fact that there are 5 slots unwilling to vote nancy, it is just easier to give in.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

If you notice my attitude at the start Day 2 after the Bee flip I was still very much motivated, I felt confident because I called Bee as town and way early on before anyone else did. I haven't had that confidence since. I haven't had the drive.

As I said earlier in this thread, when I'm town I get motivated when I'm a roll.

EBWOP.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Not to mention I've given more effort for this game than I would like after I said I was done. It is just draining.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Also just the fact that there are

5 slots

unwilling to vote nancy

4 of those 5 are scum though.

They could very well be, won't matter if we can't get the votes.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

If Math is scum then we lost lol

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I won't comment on that but I will say it is just human nature.

People have friends or significant others on this site and sometimes it's hard to seperate that from the game.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Lol what's done is done. If you're trolling me in pre-twlight here, bravo.

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I know your pissed here, regardless of alignmen, but just look forward to potentially gloating post game.

Like I really don't know what to say other than how did it all go wrong? Everytime I think about how the hell this game went from the somewhat cohesive unit it was to 600+ pages I just get stuck.

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yes.

in my short MS carrer, a town block has only worked once for me.

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They can read her better than anyone else here I imagine so who knows. Maybe Jae had a change of heart.

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Like I think what you're suggesting here is pretty fucked Nero lol like I understand it may look like that on the surface but I don't think both would intentionally throw games like this.

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Yeah but it is over for you now sadly

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LOL man I don't know I just want a flip.

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Any flip right now would do this game wonders.

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I think everyone will have my head on the fire if I shoot RC after you flip scum lol

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why did you shoot rc?
thought he was scum bussing nero
lynch lynch lynch uzi

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bet Maria having some good laughs in there

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Vecna isn't here and won't be here for a while to answer Math, it is fine.

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No I don't buy it lol

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Vecna isn't here and won't be here for a while to answer Math, it is fine.

Oh he is actually online

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They are not right on me. Common sense proves this.

They give me questions they I know I can't answer. I don't deal with data so telling me to look at VCs and form a team that makes sense from them is like asking me to bang my head against the wall repeatedly.

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Now instead I ask this:

LUV what will you build tonight if anything?

I think it will be Big Ben or Ruhr. Maybe Forbidden.

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It is not bull Nero. You have the same information as everyone else in regards to the games on my wiki. This isn't my scum game.

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I know I've been told I can fake my town game very easily but the difference is that I actually care about playing one alignment where as the other I don't. Once people take that into account, it is easier to read me.

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Now instead I ask this:

LUV what will you build tonight if anything?

I think it will be Big Ben or Ruhr. Maybe Forbidden.

Okay. So if you build Big Ben today who would you investigate?

Ceasar, Gork, or Leon

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Maybe Vecna out of last minute paranoia

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If you could only pick one person who would it be?

Gun to head it would be Ceasar.