Mini Normal 2076: Game Over

[Vorkuta]

interestingly, I felt that dp somewhat tunneled me too...why would you bring up schadd over me

Apples and oranges
I could barely find a 'relevant' mention of you in DP's ISO

[Performer]

What do you mean by "relevant??"

[Psyche]

LUV is town. moving on.

plz just get on record as having a pr if ur gonna do this

[Vorkuta]

What do you mean by "relevant??"

He ignored your existence for the first half of the game, (AFTER he claimed UB), at which point he begins the tunnel, BUT it is entirely motivated by MECHANICAL "can there be a UB in this game" sentiment.
And most of his interaction with you is primarily fuelled by "I'm also NSG reviewer hurrdurr"

The "relevant" thing I'm talking about is 'busing/distancing'. Wrong word-choice my bad.

[Vorkuta]

LUV is town. moving on.

plz just get on record as having a pr if ur gonna do this

Psyche can you not?

[Performer]

i think dp's thing with me was also pretty explicitly emotional

I mean that's kind of why I unvoted (also seeing as I won't get a majority on you without more damning evidence)

I still stand by the

fact

opinion that his "emotional outburst" towards you was part of scum theater
while his "emotional outburst" towards nomx3 was flailing and fueled by the added stress of wagon #2 after wagon #1 on him diffused.

Also in hindsight that's probably why nomx3 was shot

If you're saying scum team targeted nom due to dp dying, I disagree...he was lynched beforehand. His scum teammates would have to have the decision the following phase , n1...

In fact, I suddenly have the ill feeling that if schad was scum, then maybe he WOULD target nom? Because I had a drastic read change on nom when she came into cdb slot, and nom & I just finished a game where we were masons that schad moderated us from. So then a world is possible where scum schadd is worried about nom/I being too unbreakable a town pair, so that he & his buddy targeted nom? Otherwise, I have a hard time finding out why on earth people would target nom on n1

[Vorkuta]

targeted nom due to dp dying, I disagree...he was lynched beforehand. His scum teammates would have to have the decision the following phase , n1...

In 20/20 hindsight I read her... "vigor" heavily implied a personal involvement -> inadvertent PR claim.
Also maybe she had solid reads

oh no she FoS'd me

Eitherway- useful town powerhouse and damn near impossible to mislynch on top of a potential PR claim (idk what people read into it).

F

[Psyche]

LUV is town. moving on.

plz just get on record as having a pr if ur gonna do this

Psyche can you not?

who does the ambiguity serve?

[Performer]

targeted nom due to dp dying, I disagree...he was lynched beforehand. His scum teammates would have to have the decision the following phase , n1...

In 20/20 hindsight I read her... "vigor" heavily implied a personal involvement -> inadvertent PR claim.
Also maybe she had solid reads

oh no she FoS'd me

Eitherway- useful town powerhouse and damn near impossible to mislynch on top of a potential PR claim (idk what people read into it).

F

Uh...iirc, plenty of folks had vigor regarding a dp lynch. nm, schadd, pp, me, to name some. She also brought up that you were scum...so that makes me doubt my earlier tr on you


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Other notes:
-Reread more of cdb/nom/chen ISOs
-Vork brought up great analysis of scum mary. But nom mentioned she liked a vork lynch too in her ISO

[Vorkuta]

Goddamit Psyche
-Penguin....
-All of town....
-LUV...

He's warranted enough town-cred, and is responsible enough to know the weight of his actions.
Digging any deeper only worsens our situation.

[Psyche]

im just saying, if we can clear pp and luv today june 8 2019 then the game is solved; we just have to sort mjl and performer

[Performer]

im just saying, if we can clear pp and luv today june 8 2019 then the game is solved; we just have to sort

mjl and

performer

psyche and not_mafia and redemption

ftfy (mary is basically conf scum based on the constant fluff posts). Not sure who would be the likely remaining partner atm.

[Vorkuta]

had vigor

I mean there's vigor and there's

You make this post, but right now I am trying to reconcile *your attitude toward how you conceive of your own townplay* with 1381

Shut up scum

I'll repeat again: piss off.

Also the N_M vigor for a dp lynch. I felt it.

[Psyche]

schadd can you explain the vorkuta placement on ur reads list i don't get it at all

[Vorkuta]

not schadd butttt

I've always been null/null-scum/slight scum-lean on his BS-o-meter
His prerogative to put me anywhere he wants to and I don't really care why usually, seeing it won't actually turn into anything actionable.

[PenguinPower]

I think if you received fruit you should claim it.

I’m also tired and my new flight has been delayed. Yay.

[chennisden]

so oops

[LuckyOtter]

I have a hard time seeing LUV scum now because I don't see any motivation for DP to shade his partner like this early on:

How many people are currently townreading LUV?

I've got Redemption and MJL as most likely pairings in my notes.

DP almost never interacts with MJL but puts her relatively low in his rankings, and then is willing to coax her onto the performer wagon:

MJL can I interest you in a Performer vote?

Not to mention she does like, 0 scumhunting all of D1.

Redemption had DP in his scumpile for a really weak reason in 563 ("Just returned from over a day of absence without mentioning or justifying it.") He doesn't give much more reasoning for voting him later in 832 other than "evidence is piling up against him." I think there's a good case for bussing here, but I'm also not sure that move was really necessary. I'm leaning slightly against this scenario at the moment

Off chance of Vorkuta (consistently says he doesn't believe the UB claim but still puts DP in neutral rankings. @Vork why was that?) but I don't think he's the one to push today.

The Performer/DP interaction toward the end of day yesterday doesn't immediately strike me as SvS but I need to review it

[LuckyOtter]

Anyone want to claim fruit or to have been visited for shits and giggles?

*ahem*
VOTE: schadd

Him getting off the pichu wagon immediately after his UB claim is suspicious
Him not 100% supporting it the second time he was wagonned is also sus

unvoting a PR claim and then Only voting him at the end of the day. yeah, sorry i didn't do better. i believe you'll find my reasons pretty extensively detailed

Um...compulsive multitasking town role and you think Vig over PGO why?

pgo is not a normal role

VOTE: LUV
559, 898, 1150/1 gave me the impression of s/s with pikachu

Can you explain why these posts look like S/S with DP?

[Redemption]

Alright, I think I'll have to relinquish the game guys. I have way too much on my plate right now. It is a busy ass summer for me unfortunately.

Can we get someone to replace me please?

[Vorkuta]

GIF, you might as well get me out of there.

Stop

Spoiler:

recent site rules prohibit replacement talk/discussion, and it's unwise to bring that up especially considering PenguinPower is kind of a big scary mod person
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=79321

[Psyche]

redemption again not following the replacement rule

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: Seventh Circle

This is on principle

[Vorkuta]

We're uh... still playing this game right?
Anyway, I'll spark some life into it via a reads list

{PP, Psyche, Performer,

pichu pinky promised

}
{Otter, LUV}
{Redemption}
{schadd, MJL}

Miltank tier: N_M

PP is core!town since early D1
Psyche and Performer are huge tinfoil reads based on their approach to the game but yeah.
Getting to Lylo with one of these 2 would make me feel really really bad and queasy though

Otter hasn't made any impression on me and I think the fact that he successfully flew beneath MY (key point here being MY) radar implies that he hasn't done anything that pinged me.

LUV should uhh... obv!town himself more please

Redemption has just been pushing it and pushing it.
Objectively I have to give him the same level of scrutiny as MJL (newbie card and all that) and his uhh... expressions and mannerisms could really come from either team, but my verdict is scum lean.
I'm also butthurt about how he cherrypicks what to reply to and what to ignore.
And yes- I've been defending the guy for "too scum to be scum" since day 1, but gah no.

schadd case is my schadd case- I've backed off but *shrugs*
MJL case is explained above as well. I just don't buy it any more.

[GuyInFreezer]

bump