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In post 1799, Klick wrote:Icon, there was zero good reason to fakeclaim originally (or to claim at all D1 really). Learn from this.

I'm willing to consider this but we can have this talk post-game.

That's fine, there's a time and place for that conversation.

In post 1799, Klick wrote:Luca's reaction to Icon's early play today is solid. I don't think he resists the Icon momentum in that way as scum.

i agree with this btw

scum lack motivation to try and block that momentum

Tchill probs town as well, scum also don't flip flop like that. They might push it like him, but they wouldn't reconsider or doubt it that much.
Also AtE felt town and not faked.

I think A50 has one of the worst votes on me, in #1678.

'Either way' so it's a fencesitting attidude.

Datisi are you still confused this game?

I think it's time you start taking a position so that I can read you properly

In post 1803, Iconeum wrote:Tchill probs town as well, scum also don't flip flop like that. They might push it like him, but they wouldn't reconsider or doubt it that much.

This is the main reason my Tchill townread stopped being conditional on you being scum fwiw. He was trying to read you and it seemed like genuine frustration by your actions in a way that scum wouldn't do.

Iconeum / town
Luca Blight / town
Lil Uzi Vert
Klick / town
Datisi
Almost50
Tchill13 / town

I'm willing to bet this game on 2 scum in (A50/Datisi/LUV)

I still am very much confused, becuase A50/LUV feels to easy.

{Icon}
{Luca, Tchill}
{Klick}
{A50, LUV}

Is there a point discussing Icon's night action now, or are we gonna get to voting?

Who do you think we should Lynch first, Datisi?

i'm going to send a message 50/50 between 1 in my scumbracket and 1 in my townbracket

@Luca: Tbh, not sure if I have a preference. LUV seems to be putting a smidge of effort more in than A50, so I'd say A50?
VOTE: A50 L-2 I think

@Icon: I'm trying to think of a way to be able to know if the person you send it to got your message even if you die. (And I think that is likely, since you're probably the only PR?)

oh is LUV your scumbuddy?

Nope. You wanna actually help out the Town in deciding what the message should be?

the message itself is of less importance

it's still gonna be difficult to prove anything if i die tho

In post 1815, Iconeum wrote:it's still gonna be difficult to prove anything if i die tho

Yeah, that's why I'm trying to figure out if there is a way

Icon, don't bother mentioning it here, but there are plenty of ways you could get someone to prove they got a message from you without it being fakeable by scum.

i know

i already said what you needed to know about claiming and in what order

Something doesn't feel right.
I feel like A50's making life really unnecessarily difficult for himself if he's scum.

i don't really see it

town going after town

let them be

hop on when the time is right

sounds about what he's doing

In post 1652, Almost50 wrote:

In post 1650, Klick wrote:A50, I feel as though the case against Icon is fairly solid. Can you look over it and tell me why what he's done isn't scum-indicative? I could use a fresh pair of eyes.

I'm sure you do, but I would say it's 50-50 at best. I think we give "our ONLY investigative" another night. If he was scum and we had another investigative they would have checked him on N1, or -at the very latest- would be checking him tonight.

So, Icon gives you a result (i.e. gets confirmed along with his target), or another investigative gets a guilty on him, OR that other investigative dies and his flip is evidence enough Icon is lying.

My fear is Icon IS what he says he is and then we lynch him today and are actively throwing.

Nah I get the vibe from this post that he actually didn't want Icon lynched today regardless of A50's alignment.

I'm going back to the eternal question: what scumteam actually decides to kill Alisae over Icon last night?

Knowing what we know now, scum probably don't have much power themselves considering all we have is Loyal Mailman. They could probably reasonably assume town didn't have much power. I don't think the immediate assumption is that we have a protective with a Cop claim.

Datisi/A50 both noticed and reacted to the claim. Luca claims to have noticed but didn't give any indication of that until D2 (but tbf I do think he noticed - I think he's the type to have read through the whole thread as either alignment). LUV didn't acknowledge the claim yesterday. Tchill actively claims to have not seen it.
But then Alisae's strong townreads were Tchill/LUV/myself. I really don't think they choose to kill her.

I kinda want to lynch Datisi today.