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Okay, that makes a lot more sense.In post 1788, RCEnigma wrote:Because I've already answered these or similar questions. I don't really know what you want from me. If you're a bit partner then I could see you trying to transition away. If you aren't then you're probably just town caught up with scum egging on the conflict from the outside. It's an either or statement.In post 1773, Sailor Senshi wrote:My confusion, is your use of the word “intentionally”. Considering the way you deathtunnelled me in LNT for next to nothing, I don’t understand your reaction at all, Once I get an answer, I’ll be more than happy to drop it. I don’t stop asking questions just because someone gets mad. No one should and I know you agree with this, so why the double standard?In post 1737, RCEnigma wrote:Tired of this slip bullshit and then people push it without logic because someone else is saying slip because at the end the pusher can just say whoops. What is there to explain? There were 2-3 votes on Bit in quick succession and then gamma/bit was poised to be a focal point if not for the snap away into sailor vs Ephraim. The transition was suspect to me in that way because it was just before Bit would have or could have gotten rolling.In post 1697, Sailor Senshi wrote:On reread, @RCE, why would we if NOT a “partner”,In post 1500, Cafe Stile wrote:whatIn post 1025, RCEnigma wrote:I think a partner,or sailor, intentionallyused the conflict with Ephraim to divert pressure from your wagon.
there was no pressure pretty sure”intentionally”“try to divert pressure from [Bitmap or any other] wagon.
I think this could be a possible slip here.
@RCE, you had better explain this or I’m switching my vote to you.
No shit I can't say bit definitely would have flipped if that never happened but that's not what I'm pushing.
Yes, okay. Who do you think was taking advantage of us, I mean besides the players that suddenly jumped on us?In post 1789, RCEnigma wrote:Is it because I separated you from partner? Like it's broken up like that as a partner from outside of the conflict or scum!SS from inside the conflict but I can see Town!SS bring taken advantage of if you aren't the partner. Does that make more sense or am I explaining it weird?In post 1782, Sailor Senshi wrote:I already told you and told you and told you. The part about a partnerIn post 1737, RCEnigma wrote:Tired of this slip bullshit and then people push it without logic because someone else is saying slip because at the end the pusher can just say whoops. What is there to explain? There were 2-3 votes on Bit in quick succession and then gamma/bit was poised to be a focal point if not for the snap away into sailor vs Ephraim. The transition was suspect to me in that way because it was just before Bit would have or could have gotten rolling.In post 1697, Sailor Senshi wrote:On reread, @RCE, why would we if NOT a “partner”,In post 1500, Cafe Stile wrote:whatIn post 1025, RCEnigma wrote:I think a partner,or sailor, intentionallyused the conflict with Ephraim to divert pressure from your wagon.
there was no pressure pretty sure”intentionally”“try to divert pressure from [Bitmap or any other] wagon.
I think this could be a possible slip here.
@RCE, you had better explain this or I’m switching my vote to you.
No shit I can't say bit definitely would have flipped if that never happened but that's not what I'm pushing.or Sailor INTENTIONALLYtried to divert the wagon. Why are you ignoring the extremely specific question: What is the town motivation for “intentionally” trying to divert a wagon? It’s really not like you, to continue to misinterpret my question to this extent.
Lol yeah.In post 1795, DrDolittle wrote:This is how I know you have at most skimmed.In post 1778, Cafe Stile wrote:Lady Eventide - They're looking green for me. They're being a bit helpful to twon the way that Sailor Senshi does.
Helpful to town is a gross overstatement. I can agree with there are gems in the rough if you wade through all the dirt but no more
Difference between that and SS is night and day
How has LE been “helpful”? @Cafe StilesYeah but that's mostly due to the time it took place. If anything Dann playing all sides in a short span of time is worth dissecting. LE rehashing the fight after it's conclusion isn't great but I'm kind of biased since I townread the way they flipped on my slot.In post 1806, Sailor Senshi wrote:Okay, that makes a lot more sense.In post 1788, RCEnigma wrote:Because I've already answered these or similar questions. I don't really know what you want from me. If you're a bit partner then I could see you trying to transition away. If you aren't then you're probably just town caught up with scum egging on the conflict from the outside. It's an either or statement.In post 1773, Sailor Senshi wrote:My confusion, is your use of the word “intentionally”. Considering the way you deathtunnelled me in LNT for next to nothing, I don’t understand your reaction at all, Once I get an answer, I’ll be more than happy to drop it. I don’t stop asking questions just because someone gets mad. No one should and I know you agree with this, so why the double standard?In post 1737, RCEnigma wrote:Tired of this slip bullshit and then people push it without logic because someone else is saying slip because at the end the pusher can just say whoops. What is there to explain? There were 2-3 votes on Bit in quick succession and then gamma/bit was poised to be a focal point if not for the snap away into sailor vs Ephraim. The transition was suspect to me in that way because it was just before Bit would have or could have gotten rolling.In post 1697, Sailor Senshi wrote:On reread, @RCE, why would we if NOT a “partner”,In post 1500, Cafe Stile wrote:whatIn post 1025, RCEnigma wrote:I think a partner,or sailor, intentionallyused the conflict with Ephraim to divert pressure from your wagon.
there was no pressure pretty sure”intentionally”“try to divert pressure from [Bitmap or any other] wagon.
I think this could be a possible slip here.
@RCE, you had better explain this or I’m switching my vote to you.
No shit I can't say bit definitely would have flipped if that never happened but that's not what I'm pushing.
Who do you think was the “scum egging on the conflict from the outside”? It seemed to me that fight was pretty much limited to Krazy/RC?
How are one-liners AI?In post 1778, Cafe Stile wrote:Bitmap- His ISO looks like a wall of quotes. Not townread for sure due to his one-liners.
what the fuck is this?In post 1778, Cafe Stile wrote:Lady Eventide- They're looking green for me. They're being a bit helpful to twon the way that Sailor Senshi does.
I admit, I skimmed. I admit, "helpful" is not really accurate, say "townish". They have some scumhunting(?) stuffs which I liked. (1604 / 1614 and a few more).In post 1808, Sailor Senshi wrote:Lol yeah.In post 1795, DrDolittle wrote:This is how I know you have at most skimmed.In post 1778, Cafe Stile wrote:Lady Eventide - They're looking green for me. They're being a bit helpful to twon the way that Sailor Senshi does.
Helpful to town is a gross overstatement. I can agree with there are gems in the rough if you wade through all the dirt but no more
Difference between that and SS is night and day
I hardly think voting Senshi and then rethinking it after the fight is "playing all sides." If anything I pretty definitively took Ephraim's side. Also, your assertion that Bitmap vs. Gamma was poised to be a focal point is silly. Virtually no one else was interested in that spat, and both me and Tana said it was not productive.In post 1809, RCEnigma wrote:If anything Dann playing all sides in a short span of time is worth dissecting
Shotgun reads I have pops, Titus, gameplay, ddl, mayyyybe Katsuki.In post 1814, Dannflor wrote:I hardly think voting Senshi and then rethinking it after the fight is "playing all sides." If anything I pretty definitively took Ephraim's side. Also, your assertion that Bitmap vs. Gamma was poised to be a focal point is silly. Virtually no one else was interested in that spat, and both me and Tana said it was not productive.In post 1809, RCEnigma wrote:If anything Dann playing all sides in a short span of time is worth dissecting
RCE, do you have opinion not concerning this theory of yours? What are your reads right now, specifically Lady E?
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I think DDL is town now
I should reconsider LE
Also I say playing all sides because you went through a really rapid progression of sailor scum for their tana push into a quick unvote and then tried to play mediator to a minor degree. Idk. Maybe no one was interested in bit vs gamma like I thought.In post 1814, Dannflor wrote:I hardly think voting Senshi and then rethinking it after the fight is "playing all sides." If anything I pretty definitively took Ephraim's side. Also, your assertion that Bitmap vs. Gamma was poised to be a focal point is silly. Virtually no one else was interested in that spat, and both me and Tana said it was not productive.In post 1809, RCEnigma wrote:If anything Dann playing all sides in a short span of time is worth dissecting
RCE, do you have opinion not concerning this theory of yours? What are your reads right now, specifically Lady E?
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I think DDL is town now
I should reconsider LE
I'm wary of you because better players than me hold you highly so I don't know what your ceiling is and at least 1 of these players will better be able to read you than I will.
I did try to play mediator, but I still think I was pretty firmly in the camp of Sailor's push being bad.In post 1817, RCEnigma wrote:Also I say playing all sides because you went through a really rapid progression of sailor scum for their tana push into a quick unvote and then tried to play mediator to a minor degree. Idk. Maybe no one was interested in bit vs gamma like I thought.
In post 467, Tana and Ephraim wrote:Bitmap vs Gamma bores me.
It feels like one person is talking about chocolates and the other is talking about rabbits.
-Tana
In post 468, Dannflor wrote:Yeah, Gamma's push on Bitmap is bad, but I think it's the town sort of bad.
This is why I felt like no one was interested in Gamma vs. BitIn post 469, Tana and Ephraim wrote:Like I get the point they are both trying to make, but instead of crossing paths it seems like they just keep missing each other.
-Tana
You should really be listening to Tana on this one, Ephiraim. You're wrong and embarrassingly so.In post 1673, Tana and Ephraim wrote:Anyway. LE is scum. They need to die.
Trust me, I understand the concept. It's lack of meta on me here that's making people take my votes less seriously than they ought, IMO.In post 1676, DrDolittle wrote: LE: 1484 "Actions speak louder than words. Votes are town's primary weapons; leaving them idle is not a good thing." If your votes are so fleeting, then they are as if no weapons at all.
Also, can you clarify this a bit? Does this mean you disagree with my theory, or disagree with Dann's actions?In post 1676, DrDolittle wrote:Dannflor [X]: I absolutely disagree with the "hostile" thrown in Dann's way in lighting up SS vs T&E. In fact, I also thought it was personal attacks, but E cleared it up later on. I also disagree with Dann's readlist in 1558 for a lot of parts, but I respect it.
I'm not seeing the kind of actual attention and analysis on bitmap that I would expect of a townie. There's some really basic level shit but it's fairly unsettled and he still hasn't demonstrated that he's put in the work to actually develop a real read of bit. Until that happens I'm pretty chill with my vote staying here.In post 1749, Sailor Senshi wrote:I’m still null on him but his pushing T + E for what reads to me as an NAI comment, is pinging me. I disagree with you that Dann hasn’t provided reasons.
ThatIn post 1752, Sailor Senshi wrote:I don’t understand this at all, since Dann is currently voting him and he has decent odds of getting lynched. I seriously doubt scum!Dann hardbusses on D1, unless his survival literally depended on it. I don’t understand how you even think they’re linked. I also strongly tl him rn - Dann.
This is a terrible readslist for multiple reasons. No scumreads, very little explanation, contradicts things you've said earlier. 3/10 near-voteworthy. Updating with "Oh and Croag is my biggest scumlean" just looks worse, despite my agreeing with you; put some effort in, damn it.In post 1778, Cafe Stile wrote:Tana and Ephraim- I mean, I see why 1379 could flip Hideri off (The only argument I can say is that 120 is my complete RVS). Other than that, I feel like RC makes towny posts and I find 1601 to be a bit from a town perspective.
Hidden Happiness- I don't like the last line at 1663 but I guess that's because it's MariaR so...
Chaos Wind- I don't know man, 971 felt just like they're trying to hop on and help. Not sure if that's AI though.
Croag- Okay, he has 4 posts? I never expected someone to post just as less as me (Maika). Cannot generate a read.
Bitmap- His ISO looks like a wall of quotes. Not townread for sure due to his one-liners.
RCEnigma- His posts are too normal this game. I'd say null.
Dannflor- I generally like how he reason stuffs in 1558. Also his interaction with Bitmap doesn't seem like he could be partners with Bitmap, or even if he's a scum at all. Townlean.
Sailor Senshi- The conflict aside, I really like how they engage in this game a lot. Locktown.
Cafe Stile- We're town. We really mean it.
Gamma Emerald- I see nice posts (1079 1127) but I also see a lot of fluff.
popsofctown- I was triggered by 1246 but that's just a personal feeling, I like his attitudes to the game. (Also purple really hurts my eyes please change.)
DrDoLittle- Hmmm. Hideri says he has some scum pings, but I don't feel like his posts are from a scum perspective.
Titus- I don't like how he started, he looks greener at around 965 but I guess that's it for my thoughts. I don't townread her, but in the same time, I feel like her activity this game is too strange to look scummy.
Lady Eventide- They're looking green for me. They're being a bit helpful to twon the way that Sailor Senshi does.
Lady Lambdadelta- She being flipped off on page 63 really pings town to me.
gameplay506- Okay I guess?
Katsuki- Also lurks.
Don't ask much for more evidence since this is just merely my impressions, Hideri probably will disagree with some of my reads here and tl;dr I suck.
-Maika
I see it, but I also didn’t see anyone besides Gamma and Bitmap particularly invested in that conflict. Maybe I’m wrong on that.In post 1820, RCEnigma wrote:You two plus Sailor. So everyone directly involved in the conflict directly following bit vs gamma.
You see my point at all?