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Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 11:59 am
by bob3141
well the reason is jailkeeper and not a roleblocker is holdem.

its more the informed nature. meaning there is something scum needed to be informed of.

for instance in another game. Scum was informed that the day one IC was bulletproof.

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 12:01 pm
by bob3141
a roleblocker just means town has active roles rather than roles like mason.

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 12:04 pm
by bob3141
if we count nieghbourizer as full role on par with watcher and doc.

thats 4 active roles in this game. enough reason for scum to get roleblocker role.

if babysitter was swapped with tracker there is still reason for a roleblocker.

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 12:05 pm
by Morning Tweet
Lucky, why does the jailkeeper have no purpose if only one in Wake/Lucky is town? Why doesnt JKer just exist so that mafia can role block any claimed power role?

Also off what Bob said sorta, if mafia had a role blocker instead of jailkeeper, then the rolecop would suspect them more. They could be a jailkeeper since JK is more of a towny sounding role than rolecop, therefore that's some kind of buff to the scumteam.

i dont think the existence of JKer confirms you, unless im missing something from your argument

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 12:07 pm
by LuckyLuciano
Holden being role cop explains why a jailkeeper over a roleblocker. It does not explain why the ability to block roles is needed, nor does it explain why that ability is 1x.

pedit: , , .

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 12:10 pm
by bob3141
as i said roleblock role is just given to scum to help them stop town night actions.

things like 1 shot and informed are the important part.

ive seen and played as scum jailkeeper before. but both times they were two shots.

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 12:11 pm
by midwaybear
i disagree with LL
i do not think he should be given this "cleared" status
there is no way that bob+ador is the scumteam

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 12:27 pm
by clidd
Welcome midway.

I am not so comfortable mentally to resume the pace in this match, but I will continue to monitor. Morning controls my vote, by the way.

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 12:27 pm
by midwaybear
yo what up
morning sorta controls my vote too ngl

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 12:56 pm
by Morning Tweet
UNVOTE:

Ok then. I do not get why midway says they will follow my vote, even when im voting them right now. It doesnt make a lot of sense from scum!midway perspective

Lynching Lucky, green!flip -> midway, red!flip -> Bob wins it. So long as clidd and wake are town, and Adorable/bob is not SvS.

I am going to ensure all of my assumptions are correct before recasting my vote. ill do that on my PC tonight prolly.

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 1:20 pm
by clidd
Image

We are counting on you, Morning.

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 1:22 pm
by LuckyLuciano
Clidd, you really like to BoP players.

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 1:23 pm
by midwaybear
In post 1811, LuckyLuciano wrote:Clidd, you really like to BoP players.
I mean...
it's very likely that you are scum

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 1:25 pm
by LuckyLuciano
It's actually 0% likely that I am scum, but okay.

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 1:27 pm
by LuckyLuciano
MT, does the order at which you lynch me and midway matter for your PoE? If not, let's lynch Midway first since he said he's going to sheep your vote and hasn't read anything prior to D4, nor intends to. I'd like to see how he plays this out when the person he agreed to sheep leads a wagon against him.

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 1:28 pm
by midwaybear
by your logic, bob and ador are scum which makes no sense

pedit: it seems like i am being SR for the same reason as you. I just hope my tone is better. Also, I am not going to vote myself

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 1:28 pm
by LuckyLuciano
My vote is on you. I don't see how "by my logic" bob and ador are scum together.

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 1:30 pm
by midwaybear
because you cleared wake by "mechanics"
I am VT, and you claim to be some PR. FMPOV, you are saying that bob and ador are scum

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 1:31 pm
by LuckyLuciano
No, I'm saying that you + bob / ador is scum.

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 1:31 pm
by midwaybear
In post 1818, LuckyLuciano wrote:No, I'm saying that you + bob / ador is scum.
but I'm VT, so FMPOV you are basically saying that bob+ador is scum which is very unlikely

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 1:32 pm
by LuckyLuciano
I can't talk to you without insulting you, so I will refrain.

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 1:34 pm
by midwaybear
In post 1820, LuckyLuciano wrote:I can't talk to you without insulting you, so I will refrain.
Thanks, but I am VT so whatever argument you have against me is wrong. I don't think I can convince you though, but your "mechanics" argument is wrong.
Perhaps we are both town and scum is bob+ador
If u flip green, we will still win though

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 5:13 pm
by Wake1
*prod-dodge*

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 9:16 pm
by Klick
In post 1822, Wake1 wrote:*prod-dodge*
-Prods are issued at 48 hours of inactivity and must be responded to with game related content. "Prodge" is unacceptable; a bare minimum "So-and-so looks bad" or something of the like will suffice.

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 10:43 pm
by Wake1
Oh.

OK.

"Klick looks bad."

Does that suffice?