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Instead im going to listen to some music and turn off this website for the day.

ETL, fucking stop

In post 1796, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:

In post 1792, davesaz wrote:ETL, two of the possible answers are town trying to get out of the game quickly and scum trying to AtE themselves out of lynch contention.
There are plenty more, but those are the big ones.
I strongly disagree with martyrdom. We lynch scum if possible.

With the way this game is currently going, the high number of lurkers, the high number of non-serious players and the very low ratio of scum to town, scum lynch ain’t happening today. That’s pretty much a given. So if we are going to lynch town anyway we should be going for the highest info lynch we can and you cannot argue that mine doesn’t fit the bill.

Even if that is what you're trying to do, what's the hurry?

In post 1767, mastina wrote:Acceptable wagon. Creature would be among the lurkerslots likely to be scum.

Oh RIP this game

Do we only get bad wagons?

In post 1798, Vecna wrote:I really have an extremely strong urge to insult and yell and turn this into a toxic swamp now

No. Just see the logic in what I’m saying and vote me please. I know you think I’m town but you must recognize the high utility in my plan.

In post 1719, Vecna wrote:It didnt stood out to me, so ive quickly forgotten

These were the only reasons ever given by any of my voters:

In post 429, Saudade wrote:VOTE: mastina
i've never seen more transparent scum posting ever in my life

In post 436, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Hi mastina welcome to the game! So glad you rolled scum. Haven’t you learned by now? I know you know my town game. It hasn’t changed at all. You come in saying you’re going to take this less than seriously and then fall right back into your scum game saying I’m scum day one has always been your tell lol
VOTE: mastina

In post 1724, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:

In post 1723, Nero Cain wrote:I dunno, that self vote is kinda

ate

y and just makes me wanna kill it.

I’m fine with that. I’d like to know what your plan is when I flip town. Who will you be looking at?

Well, I'd add 5G to the scumpool because their early stance on you is basically pretty much one of the only reasons I am townreading their slot, and come to the conclusion that in all likelihood, the entirety of the original scumteam was lurkers.

But that's reliant on a scenario I don't believe will actually happen, so.

In post 1800, Vecna wrote:Instead im going to listen to some music and turn off this website for the day.

ETL, fucking stop

In post 1801, davesaz wrote:

In post 1796, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:

In post 1792, davesaz wrote:ETL, two of the possible answers are town trying to get out of the game quickly and scum trying to AtE themselves out of lynch contention.
There are plenty more, but those are the big ones.
I strongly disagree with martyrdom. We lynch scum if possible.

With the way this game is currently going, the high number of lurkers, the high number of non-serious players and the very low ratio of scum to town, scum lynch ain’t happening today. That’s pretty much a given. So if we are going to lynch town anyway we should be going for the highest info lynch we can and you cannot argue that mine doesn’t fit the bill.

Even if that is what you're trying to do, what's the hurry?

Because this is never going to end. I don’t want to go through another 50 pages of pointless crap. I want to move this game forward. I want the town to get its shit together. I want to motivate game solving.

I believe strongly this is the best way because not only will it expose mastina who is now trying to set up some pillows for when she’s shown to be lying about everything she’s said about me but it will allow people to make many connections that will help sort the rest of the players.

When I get to L1 I’ll move my vote over to mastina to preserve VCA.

In post 1790, davesaz wrote:Are you going to answer my question mastina?

I catch up linearly; posts don't exist before I read and quote them. 1790 didn't exist until just now. So, yes--I answer questions. When I get to that point in the thread. The question doesn't exist prior to that point.

This is why it's pretty damn important for me to remain caught up btw and why entering into projects such as cases (which can keep me behind) is so dangerous to dip into.

Day 1 VC #40

Creature (1): Tchill13 (1538)
Auro (0):
Hoctac (1): Elements (730)
5G Tower (0):
Jake the Wolfie (0):
Aristophanes (0):
Quick (1): 50 Judge Powers (1623)
Vecna (2): Alchemist21 (124), Voted (802)
Voted (0):
Alchemist21 (1): farside22 (1345)
Elements (0):
Flavor Leaf (1): Saudade (1340)
farside22 (0):
EspeciallyTheLies (5): mastina (397), Hoctac (1262), EspeciallyTheLies (1645), Nero Cain (1710), Quick (1806)
50 Judge Powers (2): Vecna (1431), Auro (1543)
mastina (1): davesaz (1745)
Miss Lynch (0):
Nero Cain (0):
Tchill13 (0):
Saudade (0):
No Lynch (0):
Not Voting (6): Creature, 5G Tower, Jake the Wolfie, Aristophanes, Flavor Leaf (449), Miss Lynch (489)

With 21 alive, it takes 11 votes to lynch a player.

This phase will end on May 19, 2020 1:00 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2020-05-19 13:00:00).

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2.

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3. MathBlade's automated votecounter doesn't appear to track No Lynch votes properly. I'm still waiting for a response from him.
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Mastina don’t worry about pretending to shift your read on me, I already know for a fact you’re making things up and there’s only one motivation for that.

In post 1810, mastina wrote:entering into projects such as cases (which can keep me behind) is so dangerous to dip into.

Convenient.

Nero Cain
Vecna
No łynch/Voted

Auro
Miss Lynch
Hoctac
(the gap here is incredibly small, almost put none at all)
farside22
Quick
Tchill13

Saudade
Flavor Leaf
Alchemist21
50 Judge Powers
davesaz
Elements
5G Tower



Jake the Wolfie
momo/Creature


Aristophanes

EspeciallyTheLies

Caught up and updated readslist at this point.

Do not let mastina later claim that she was just “mistaken” after spending so many posts trying to convince people she’s such an authority on my gameplay.

In post 1797, mastina wrote:

In post 1697, davesaz wrote:

In post 1694, mastina wrote:ETL's content this game has looked town without actually doing anything town.

Do you have a proactive > reactive bias in how your read people in general?

Nope, never even remotely. Never been something that has ever factored in, ever.

The only thing proactive/reactive has ever meant in a game is in relevance to me, specifically, if I was in a proactive or reactive mindset. It is utterly irrelevant to other players and how I gauge them.

Hmm, that's interesting. I kinda thought you might be the type of player who expects more proactive in order to be town, based on your ETL push. Because the only thing I can see to question there is high levels of reactivity. A case based on "without actually doing" is easily disproven by examples of her doing. What's up with the house of cards approach? And why push it on someone who evidently takes it badly?

Pedit: when you reply to later stuff it makes it appear as though your cursor is beyond the question. Do you mean reverse linear?

In post 1794, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:

In post 1787, Nero Cain wrote:If you are town then sacrificing yourself seems kinda dumb, no? Chance this is just

ate

so ppl town read u for it.

omg no. It’s not dumb at all. How are you not getting this? How would lynching anyone else be more beneficial?? My value as VT is in my death.

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Are you new to mafia or something?

A townies best weapon is his/er voice and vote by getting yourself lynched you are depriving town of both of those. Even sacrificing yourself for "information" is stupid. And doing this as a lvl against Mastin is dumb as well. So if you are town, yes this is dumb. If you are scum then its an ok play.

In post 1817, Nero Cain wrote:

In post 1794, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:

In post 1787, Nero Cain wrote:If you are town then sacrificing yourself seems kinda dumb, no? Chance this is just

ate

so ppl town read u for it.

omg no. It’s not dumb at all. How are you not getting this? How would lynching anyone else be more beneficial?? My value as VT is in my death.

?????

?????

?????

?????

Are you new to mafia or something?

A townies best weapon is his/er voice and vote by getting yourself lynched you are depriving town of both of those. Even sacrificing yourself for "information" is stupid. And doing this as a lvl against Mastin is dumb as well. So if you are town, yes this is dumb. If you are scum then its an ok play.

It’s not a 1v1? This is the best option for today. Do you honestly think my voice has any value here when it clearly does not?

In post 1645, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:ok.

so listen up. when i flip town, please look at the people who pushed me with poor cases and made up bullshit. LEARN FROM THIS.

VOTE: ETL

In post 1746, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:

In post 1743, Quick wrote:VOTE: Nero

More Scummy than ETL I would say.

no. Stop this. Get your vote back on me gdi. We are going to get at least ONE THING accomplished today.

In post 1791, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:

In post 1784, Covid 19 wrote:

Votecount 1.38

EspeciallyTheLies(4)

~ mastina(65), Hoctac(51), EspeciallyTheLies(250), Nero Cain(148)

Vecna(2)

~ Alchemist21(32), Voted(45)

50 Judge Powers(2)

~ Vecna(138), Auro(160)

Quick(1)

~ 50 Judge Powers(44)

mastina(1)

~ davesaz(72)

Hoctac(1)

~ Elements(23)

Flavor Leaf(1)

~ Saudade(71)

Creature(1)

~ Tchill13(88)

Alchemist21(1)

~ farside22(64)

5G Tower(1)

~ Quick(307)


Not Voting (6): Creature(31), 5G Tower(13), Jake the Wolfie(6), Aristophanes(11), Flavor Leaf(24), Miss Lynch(78)

With 21 alive it takes 11 to lynch.

MissLynch, now is your opportunity.

I need 7 more votes to make this happen. Quick, put your vote back please. Stop being hardheaded. This is the highest reward option. With 50, that makes 7 votes, only 3 left. Come on people. If you are actually interested in moving this town forward with real info, this is the best way.

In post 1794, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:

In post 1787, Nero Cain wrote:If you are town then sacrificing yourself seems kinda dumb, no? Chance this is just

ate

so ppl town read u for it.

omg no. It’s not dumb at all. How are you not getting this? How would lynching anyone else be more beneficial?? My value as VT is in my death.

In post 1799, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Plenty of people willing to say I’m terrible and I must be scum and not willing to actually lynch me wtf

This is why I'll never stop scumreading this slot. Simultaneously thinking there's too many "lurksack" and "policy lynch" slots while also pushing a lynch onto yourself (who you know is town) is a perspective I will never understand coming from town.

Death Star. Engage.

Good for you Hoctac. You are a worse player than every other person on the list. They should make you a trophy

5G has better reads than you

I love you too!

I liked 1819

VOTE: TChill

People are defending this slot way too much.