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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:26 pm
by Galron
And yes, if I'm not sure, it is going to be a probably or a maybe. There's nothing wrong with that. There is not one obv town in this game, and the closest thing to obv scum is not quite obv. So you're going to get a probably or a maybe. Deal with it.

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:42 pm
by Bellaphant
You seem defensive.

I'm saying that your reads don't scream out from your posts or your interactions. Like, you say Gera's scum; where's the push? It's actually like Isis said - there's no pushes.

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:08 am
by geraintm
Tried to read galron's post to see if i think I could see a reason to switch to them. They have been under pressure for a while.

Their posts are just...Meh. lots of "it would be bad to lynch me" some posts through aspersions on others but no real pushes to getbother wagons going.
Lots of "this player is doing things people are scum reading me for"

But...there is little overall content. I haven't seen anything explicitly scummy. But little town and has the vibe of someone who just doesn't think they are going to get lynched...

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:57 am
by Replacement for Sujimichi
I think Galron has been towny. He's finally explaining his thought processes, but I think his unvote is the most town-indicative thing. Scrapping his previous reasons for scumreading me means he would have to come up with new ones if he were to revote me, which again be scrutinised by everyone - why put himself in that position if he's scum and I'm his counterwagon?




Join me on Bob, Galron. Bellaphant too, don't abandon the cause.

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:29 am
by Bellaphant
Just to be clear - if the four choices are me, galron, bob or replacement - my preferences are bob/galron. Replacement is town (the above post is really town). Plus, the wagon on replacement is sketchy af.

I've asked a few times for people who are tr-ing Bob to explain why.

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:30 am
by Bellaphant
VOTE: bob

Galron's response to me, while defensive, is Towny in places.

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:33 am
by Bellaphant
Also, considering how little posting there has been in the last day or so (like, the last three pages 20% of the posting has come from Me, which is just weird/unusual) it makes me think scum is fine with these wagons...

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:03 am
by Porkens
In post 1793, Galron wrote:
In post 1779, Bellaphant wrote:Oh, I meant to say galron has like 50% more posts than me but I think most people could name like...three people I'm townreading and two I'm scum reading and I just can't do that with his iso.
I scrolled back a bit in my ISO and stopped at and , where I indicated I had a couple of Town reads and a couple of scum reads and then lamented that I didn't have more TRs. From then to my recent exchange with NM, I made several posts with town reads. Makes me wonder if you really looked at my ISO at all.
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Who peruses their own ISO?

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:27 am
by Isis
All the scummy people want to exile bob

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:48 am
by notscience
@meta people I now have a completed post Hiatus scum game- smugglers port by fakedog

Now I’ll take my town reads tia

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:50 am
by Isis
Did you win

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:50 am
by notscience
Fuck no I hate scum

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:51 am
by bob3141
In post 1804, Bellaphant wrote:Just to be clear - if the four choices are me, galron, bob or replacement - my preferences are bob/galron. Replacement is town (the above post is really town). Plus, the wagon on replacement is sketchy af.

I've asked a few times for people who are tr-ing Bob to explain why.

Because its so obvously not scum me :-P

You would have to be fool to push a scum read on me this game. This is just lazy town me. Im never lazy as scum. Even in mini 2114 when i got paired with lurker slots. Spoils the fun for town if scum is lazy.



How about you go about explaining why you think im scum.

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:53 am
by Isis
In post 1811, notscience wrote:Fuck no I hate scum
That does not compute, I hate scum but my winrate as scum is like double

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:55 am
by notscience
You can go look I can usually fake tone but i just feel like I sound awkward

My motivation to play mafia is to problem solve and there’s not the problem to solve as scum lol

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:56 am
by bob3141
when im scum the only reason i put effort in is to give something for town to solve

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:59 am
by notscience
That’s actually a good point.

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:11 am
by notscience
I’ll do some thing s when I get home later

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:21 am
by Bellaphant
I don't have meta on you, and rhe people that have have given fairly different views on you (iirc.) You could link me to a scum/town game and I'll have a look. But I've explained my read - I don't see you trying to solve/I don't think you believe what you are saying. Tbf you are kinda admitting this is an issue, but branding it lazy town.

Plus I don't get the issue with rfs at all.

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:21 am
by bob3141
Looking over the vote counts from day one. And the interesting thing is that hoopla lolhammered. If he is scum i simply cant see any motive for him to lolhammer popop. There was no real alternative wagon, his slot was safe for that day after his roleclaim and no strong pushes any where at the time.

I doubt that slot is scum.

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:30 am
by bob3141
In post 1818, Bellaphant wrote:I don't have meta on you, and rhe people that have have given fairly different views on you (iirc.) You could link me to a scum/town game and I'll have a look. But I've explained my read - I don't see you trying to solve/I don't think you believe what you are saying. Tbf you are kinda admitting this is an issue, but branding it lazy town.

Plus I don't get the issue with rfs at all.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=81789
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=81161

Above two scum game. One a near win and the other a loss but had the handicap of two lurker partners posts of the game. Think proding every 4 days


https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=81385

Above a lazy town game. Spotted scum garmr day one

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=83208

laying low town game above. roleblockers rule :-)

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=82490

middle ish town game

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:37 am
by bob3141
nothing worse then after killing 1/2 neap, 2 masons and then expected last pr to be along the lines of middle to weak pr. To find that the balancers actualy though a backup mason was weaker than a full team of three masons. Got farkum so pocketed i could of even got him to lynch a cop claim.

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:27 am
by Isis
This game needs a fliiiip

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:29 am
by notscience
we can just clown Galron.

I’m curious what kind of ice cream gera likes.

VOTE: galron

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:03 pm
by Galron
In post 1802, geraintm wrote:Their posts are just...Meh. lots of "it would be bad to lynch me" some posts through aspersions on others but no real pushes to getbother wagons going.
Lots of "this player is doing things people are scum reading me for"
How scummy.